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Re: Perception of TOP CC CLANS by Years

Posted: Sun Sep 05, 2010 8:16 pm
by jpcloet
Did he take a Viagra first?

Re: Perception of TOP CC CLANS by Years

Posted: Sun Sep 05, 2010 8:32 pm
by the.killing.44
I love the way CoF's wonderful post was just passed over…

Re: Perception of TOP CC CLANS by Years

Posted: Sun Sep 05, 2010 8:33 pm
by jpcloet
Not completely, I pmd him to get more information. Hopefully I end up on his mailing list.

Re: Perception of TOP CC CLANS by Years

Posted: Sun Sep 05, 2010 8:49 pm
by Gold Knight
jpcloet wrote:Not completely, I pmd him to get more information. Hopefully I end up on his mailing list.


Im already getting a summer sausage and a box of those caramel clusters, though they are a bit overpriced IMO... ;)

Everyone is free to come up with their own ranking systems, there has never been any issue with that. When the CLA was first getting into the swing, there were several ladders being used in flux and at the time the RPI system seemed like one of the more reliable ones. Obviously things have changed, so perhaps we need to revisit the topic. COF brought up a great point that ladders arent the same as rankings, or seedings, etc. But there does need to be a concrete "formula" of sorts to figure out how the clans rank, because i believe that a popular vote does not do justice for all the clans because there arent enough people educated on ALL the clans of CC. Sure, the Top 5 are pretty all similar in everyones mind, but after that there is a big grey area that cannot be decided without having seen a sample of games between a majority of the clans.

I look forward to what COF brings up, as a handicap system does make sense to me as i understand it as a golf concept, but do find it difficult to put on a group of players in a clan, with the issues of limited resources, changing rosters, strength of opponent, etc...

Re: Perception of TOP CC CLANS by Years

Posted: Mon Sep 06, 2010 7:44 am
by Pedronicus
chemefreak wrote: having THOTA at 11th is simply the most asinine thing I have ever seen!


You think they've placed too high in the list as well eh? The numbers are growing.... :D

Re: Perception of TOP CC CLANS by Years

Posted: Mon Sep 06, 2010 9:00 am
by Dako
I think most people mistake rank and power/force of the clan.

THOTA is no doubt #1 clan, but their performance in 2010 is not that awesome in CLA so they might be ranked lower than #1. TSM went inactive for half a year (or close to) so they might drop their rank as well, but their level and professionalism is undoubted.

Such rankings show active+successful clan. Not the best. And being #1 in RPI doesn't mean you are the best clan. Winning CLA makes you best in CLA format, but as a whole clan in all of its aspects.

Re: Perception of TOP CC CLANS by Years

Posted: Mon Sep 06, 2010 10:08 am
by the.killing.44
Then why aren't we #1? Aren't we undefeated this year—Division 1 winners…?

Re: Perception of TOP CC CLANS by Years

Posted: Mon Sep 06, 2010 1:47 pm
by Dako
How about your other challenges? Seems like that loss to O&H made you a huge step back. I wonder if you leap back to #1 if that challenge were to never happen.

Re: Perception of TOP CC CLANS by Years

Posted: Mon Sep 06, 2010 2:28 pm
by the.killing.44
Dako wrote:How about your other challenges? Seems like that loss to O&H made you a huge step back. I wonder if you leap back to #1 if that challenge were to never happen.

But this was a 2010 ladder, I thought.

Re: Perception of TOP CC CLANS by Years

Posted: Mon Sep 06, 2010 2:53 pm
by jpcloet
the.killing.44 wrote:
Dako wrote:How about your other challenges? Seems like that loss to O&H made you a huge step back. I wonder if you leap back to #1 if that challenge were to never happen.

But this was a 2010 ladder, I thought.


O&H and LOW finished in 2010.

Eg, here is one of the quads games from the challenge

http://www.conquerclub.com/game.php?game=6217282

Re: Perception of TOP CC CLANS by Years

Posted: Mon Sep 06, 2010 3:05 pm
by the.killing.44
So we spent two and a half months in 2009, and one in January 2010, and it counts as a 2010 challenge?

Re: Perception of TOP CC CLANS by Years

Posted: Mon Sep 06, 2010 3:12 pm
by jpcloet
RPI tracks by when challenges are complete and not by individual games. I cannot track single games, not reasonable.

Re: Perception of TOP CC CLANS by Years

Posted: Mon Sep 06, 2010 3:17 pm
by the.killing.44
I never said anything about single games, I'm talking about when the challenge was started/the majority was played.

Re: Perception of TOP CC CLANS by Years

Posted: Mon Sep 06, 2010 3:22 pm
by jpcloet
Either way, I'm not checking all the games of a challenge to see when they all started and finished.

If I made some assumptions around what was more in 2009, I get

The Odd Fellows Union
Immortal Assassins
Legends of War

Re: Perception of TOP CC CLANS by Years

Posted: Sat Sep 25, 2010 8:24 am
by Blitzaholic
Does anyone know when chuuuuck is doing another poll to rank the clans by votes? or Is he still down in Mexico? :lol:

Re: Perception of TOP CC CLANS by Years

Posted: Sat Sep 25, 2010 9:20 am
by Bones2484
Blitzaholic wrote:Does anyone know when chuuuuck is doing another poll to rank the clans by votes? or Is he still down in Mexico? :lol:


I wish Chuuuck had answered this already in his most recent post in the Power Rankings thread.

Oh wait. He did.

Chuuuuck wrote:The next vote I run will be sometime around December. I hope to have more participation each time around because more stats = better results.

Re: Perception of TOP CC CLANS by Years

Posted: Sat Sep 25, 2010 11:07 am
by Chariot of Fire
:lol:

Re: Perception of TOP CC CLANS by Years

Posted: Sat Sep 25, 2010 6:30 pm
by Blitzaholic
Bones2484 wrote:
Blitzaholic wrote:Does anyone know when chuuuuck is doing another poll to rank the clans by votes? or Is he still down in Mexico? :lol:


I wish Chuuuck had answered this already in his most recent post in the Power Rankings thread.

Oh wait. He did.

Chuuuuck wrote:The next vote I run will be sometime around December. I hope to have more participation each time around because more stats = better results.



ok, thx, I know 2 was ran this year, then another in December, so on average once every 4 months. I was thinking once every 6 months, oh well.

Re: Perception of TOP CC CLANS by Years

Posted: Thu Oct 21, 2010 9:49 am
by Chuuuuck
Blitzaholic wrote:
Bones2484 wrote:
Blitzaholic wrote:Does anyone know when chuuuuck is doing another poll to rank the clans by votes? or Is he still down in Mexico? :lol:


I wish Chuuuck had answered this already in his most recent post in the Power Rankings thread.

Oh wait. He did.

Chuuuuck wrote:The next vote I run will be sometime around December. I hope to have more participation each time around because more stats = better results.



ok, thx, I know 2 was ran this year, then another in December, so on average once every 4 months. I was thinking once every 6 months, oh well.


It will probably be about every 6 months. The first one this year was only to accommodate the conqueror's cup and really wasn't a ranking because we didn't include all of the clans.

Re: Perception of TOP CC CLANS by Years

Posted: Fri Nov 12, 2010 1:29 pm
by Blitzaholic
Chuuuuck wrote:
Blitzaholic wrote:
Bones2484 wrote:
Blitzaholic wrote:Does anyone know when chuuuuck is doing another poll to rank the clans by votes? or Is he still down in Mexico? :lol:


I wish Chuuuck had answered this already in his most recent post in the Power Rankings thread.

Oh wait. He did.

Chuuuuck wrote:The next vote I run will be sometime around December. I hope to have more participation each time around because more stats = better results.



ok, thx, I know 2 was ran this year, then another in December, so on average once every 4 months. I was thinking once every 6 months, oh well.


It will probably be about every 6 months. The first one this year was only to accommodate the conqueror's cup and really wasn't a ranking because we didn't include all of the clans.



yes, I agree Chuuuuck, every 6 months sounds good to me as well, thanks.

Re: Perception of TOP CC CLANS by Years

Posted: Sat Nov 20, 2010 2:17 pm
by Blitzaholic
Chuuuuck, I think that 6 months is up? or close?

Re: Perception of TOP CC CLANS by Years

Posted: Sat Nov 20, 2010 2:24 pm
by Chuuuuck
Blitzaholic wrote:Chuuuuck, I think that 6 months is up? or close?


Yes, I plan on drafting a new PM this week asking for votes from clan leaders again.

Re: Perception of TOP CC CLANS by Years

Posted: Sat Nov 27, 2010 12:04 pm
by Blitzaholic
Chuuuuck wrote:
Blitzaholic wrote:Chuuuuck, I think that 6 months is up? or close?


Yes, I plan on drafting a new PM this week asking for votes from clan leaders again.


quick, because December is almost here. :D

Re: Perception of TOP CC CLANS by Years

Posted: Sun Nov 28, 2010 4:49 pm
by Blitzaholic
Bones2484 wrote:
Blitzaholic wrote:Does anyone know when chuuuuck is doing another poll to rank the clans by votes? or Is he still down in Mexico? :lol:


I wish Chuuuck had answered this already in his most recent post in the Power Rankings thread.

Oh wait. He did.

Chuuuuck wrote:The next vote I run will be sometime around December. I hope to have more participation each time around because more stats = better results.


yeah, kool, as long as it is sometime in decemeber, that is fine, because I need to update 2010 clans as year is about to end.


2006

1. Dragoons
2. Bushwackers
3. Stachewackers
4. CWC
5. Bounty Hunters
6. Legionaires of Chaos
7. Scion of Glory (holes)
8. Gridiron Gang
9. Freelancers
10. Elmo's War Legion



2007

1. Thota
2. Dragoons
3. Lod now Aod
4. Untouchables
5. Stachewackers
6. Bushwackers
7. Regulators
8. Bounty Hunters
9. LoW
10. Koe



2008

1. Thota
2. LoW
3. Tsm
4. Dragoons
5. Untouchables
6. Empire
7. Lod now Aod
8. ++The Legion++
9. Gen. 1
10. VDLL



2009

1. Thota
2. Tsm
3. LoW
4. IA
5. Empire
6. ++The Legion++
7. Dragoons
8. BSS
9. BpB
10. AOD



2010?
1.
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3.
4.
5.
6.
7.
8.
9.
10.

Re: Perception of TOP 10 CLANS by Years

Posted: Sun Nov 28, 2010 4:52 pm
by Dako
Well, this is going to be tough. A pity TOFU were not to play THOTA this year.