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Re: Baltic Crusades [8th Aug 2011]

Posted: Thu Aug 25, 2011 3:36 am
by thenobodies80
I've edited/updated the OP.

Re: Baltic Crusades [27 Jun 2011] - updated map and XML by e

Posted: Sat Sep 03, 2011 1:03 pm
by thenobodies80
DiM wrote:sorry if this is too late.
feel free to ignore my comments if you do not wish to make changes as they are only minor things:

1. the B and S at the edges of the title are written even though the parchment is torn. basically where's a tear in the parchment there should also be a tear in the letter but it's not.

2. the shadows of the parchments are too big. it makes them look like they're floating way above the map

3. the corner curls of the parchments have individual shadows that don't look normal. for example the top left parchment with castles is hit by light coming from NNW but its bottom right curl has a shadow as if light is coming from E

4. the title parchment is so squished and stretched it looks very weird.

5. i'd like to see a version where the castles/towns/cities/ships are set on either overlay or multiply. right now they stand too much apart from the rest of the map, mainly because they have so much white.


Yeah all you said is true.
I tried to work on those things but the main issue is that thebastard gave me a "bad" gimp file and the current version is the sum of previous errors (like merged layers, etc). So it's easy to understand that I had and have some limits in what i can do (for example parachments) if I keep the current files.

Anyway....I'm going to do a thing I don't like to do, specially considering that this one is not totally my own map....but thebastard is disappeared....

What I'm going to do is to re-draw the map again, but this time from the scratch, throwing away everything I have now! ](*,)
Ender, I'll try to keep the coords in the current positions, but this is not a promise...i'll do my best.

It will take a while before that I'm able to post the new version.
Nobodies

Re: Baltic Crusades [8th Aug 2011]

Posted: Sat Sep 03, 2011 1:08 pm
by thenobodies80
btw I forgot a thing: isaiah40 can you please officially move this one back to the graphics stage and also officially withdraw the current graphics stamp ?

Re: Baltic Crusades [8th Aug 2011]

Posted: Sat Sep 03, 2011 3:38 pm
by isaiah40
[MOVED]

Done per above request.

Re: Baltic Crusades [8th Aug 2011]

Posted: Sat Oct 22, 2011 2:58 pm
by thenobodies80
Not finished yet, but I want to post something....

[bigimg]http://www.wcforums.org/foundry/BalticCrusades/baltic3.0.png[/bigimg]

Re: Baltic Crusades [27 Jun 2011] - updated map and XML by e

Posted: Sat Oct 22, 2011 9:25 pm
by Industrial Helix
DiM wrote:april 20th is the international day of marijuana. that's the closest thing i can relate to 4.20 :-s



Also Hitler's birthday.

Re: Baltic Crusades [22 Oct 2011]

Posted: Sat Oct 22, 2011 11:34 pm
by ender516
The new graphics look pretty good. Will you be restoring a graphic connection (like the coloured shields) between the map and the bonus legend?

Re: Baltic Crusades [22 Oct 2011]

Posted: Sun Oct 23, 2011 1:49 am
by Nola_Lifer
Was wondering about this one. Good to see that its moving. :)

Re: Baltic Crusades [22 Oct 2011]

Posted: Sun Oct 23, 2011 7:21 am
by thenobodies80
ender516 wrote:Will you be restoring a graphic connection (like the coloured shields) between the map and the bonus legend?


Doing some tests to see if there's something better to save space ;)

Re: Baltic Crusades [22 Oct 2011]

Posted: Sun Oct 23, 2011 10:32 am
by koontz1973
thenobodies80, glad to see that you have managed to get this one moving again. Been a while since it was sitting at the bottom of the forum with nothing new. A couple of things, firstly, the map legend looks very dark and the text is hard to read. Can you lighten it up a tad? Secondly, as you seem to be the only one working on this, I take it that you will be the one getting credit for this now?

Re: Baltic Crusades [30 Oct 2011]

Posted: Sun Oct 30, 2011 9:58 am
by thenobodies80
koontz1973 wrote:thenobodies80, glad to see that you have managed to get this one moving again. Been a while since it was sitting at the bottom of the forum with nothing new. A couple of things, firstly, the map legend looks very dark and the text is hard to read. Can you lighten it up a tad? Secondly, as you seem to be the only one working on this, I take it that you will be the one getting credit for this now?


I tried to contact [player]theBastard[/player], but I get zero replies from him. Obviously I leave his name on the map because he developed the concept, but I'm not going to leave this one go into the bin after that I put so much effort into it. About the ownership and the other "burocratic" aspects, I'll leave the final word to isaiah40 (deputy foreman), being myself the graphics developer of this map. O:)

Now, if everyone is happy with this one I'll go with the small:

[bigimg]http://www.wcforums.org/foundry/BalticCrusades/baltic5.1.png[/bigimg]

Re: Baltic Crusades [30 Oct 2011]

Posted: Sun Oct 30, 2011 12:34 pm
by natty dread
Could you make Gotland & Papal Legatus more different in colour? They're indistinguishable with CB filters.

Re: Baltic Crusades [30 Oct 2011]

Posted: Sun Oct 30, 2011 2:04 pm
by thenobodies80
They are close but not indistiguishable, and the fact there's gotland written on the island seems to make the bonus self explanatory to me, anyway i did another version. O:)
But I'll leave them both up to hear what the other people think. ;)

Version 5.1 Gotland orange
[bigimg]http://www.wcforums.org/foundry/BalticCrusades/baltic5.1.png[/bigimg]
Version 5.2 Gotland blue
[bigimg]http://www.wcforums.org/foundry/BalticCrusades/baltic5.2.png[/bigimg]

Re: Baltic Crusades [30 Oct 2011]

Posted: Sun Oct 30, 2011 10:28 pm
by Nola_Lifer
thenobodies80 wrote:
koontz1973 wrote:thenobodies80, glad to see that you have managed to get this one moving again. Been a while since it was sitting at the bottom of the forum with nothing new. A couple of things, firstly, the map legend looks very dark and the text is hard to read. Can you lighten it up a tad? Secondly, as you seem to be the only one working on this, I take it that you will be the one getting credit for this now?


I tried to contact [player]theBastard[/player], but I get zero replies from him. Obviously I leave his name on the map because he developed the concept, but I'm not going to leave this one go into the bin after that I put so much effort into it. About the ownership and the other "burocratic" aspects, I'll leave the final word to isaiah40 (deputy foreman), being myself the graphics developer of this map. O:)

Now, if everyone is happy with this one I'll go with the small:

[bigimg]http://www.wcforums.org/foundry/BalticCrusades/baltic5.1.png[/bigimg]


I don't think the B would have any complaints on this being a finished map.

Re: Baltic Crusades [30 Oct 2011]

Posted: Mon Oct 31, 2011 3:40 am
by natty dread
The blue gotland is better, but perhaps you could make it lighter? I kinda have a dislike for dark blue land colours - it seems somehow counter-intuitive, especially when you have blue water on the map... idk, up to you.

Re: Baltic Crusades [30 Oct 2011]

Posted: Mon Oct 31, 2011 10:21 am
by AndyDufresne
In general, I really like the overall look of the map---except that for my taste, it is a shade or two too dark.


--Andy

Re: Baltic Crusades [30 Oct 2011]

Posted: Mon Oct 31, 2011 12:02 pm
by ender516
I think the dark colours work for these northern locales, especially given the historical setting.

Re: Baltic Crusades [30 Oct 2011]

Posted: Mon Oct 31, 2011 12:12 pm
by AndyDufresne
ender516 wrote:I think the dark colours work for these northern locales, especially given the historical setting.

I don't dispute it working, just not to my taste.


--Andy

Re: Baltic Crusades [30 Oct 2011]

Posted: Tue Nov 01, 2011 8:24 am
by koontz1973
What is with the boarder. There seems to be spots of light behind it at irregular intervals. Also, might look nicer if you have a corner piece.

Re: Baltic Crusades [30 Oct 2011]

Posted: Wed Nov 02, 2011 8:49 pm
by isaiah40
Blue Gotland is better IMO.

Re: Baltic Crusades [30 Oct 2011]

Posted: Wed Nov 02, 2011 8:52 pm
by Victor Sullivan
isaiah40 wrote:Blue Gotland is better IMO.

+1

-Sully

Re: Baltic Crusades [30 Oct 2011]

Posted: Thu Nov 03, 2011 4:45 am
by Gillipig
I'd really like to try this map. How far is it from beta?

Re: Baltic Crusades [30 Oct 2011]

Posted: Fri Nov 04, 2011 6:00 am
by thenobodies80
Ok, I will go with the blue gotland, but I won't do it with a lighter color. As ender said the "dark lights" work with the map and its historical setting, moreover have gotland lighter will create other problem with colors, specially for colorblind people. (I did a test to say this ;))

koontz1973 wrote:What is with the boarder. There seems to be spots of light behind it at irregular intervals. Also, might look nicer if you have a corner piece.


I think you're referring to the frame. Yeah, I don't like it as it is now. I'll redraw it this weekend.

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Now, since I'm planning to work on it, is there something else you want to see changed or refined?
@ ender, I'll check if some coords need to be moved. I'm pretty sure that circles are in the same place, but I don't remember if I slightly moved some labels or borders. If something need a fix, I'll send you a PM ;)

Nobodies

Re: Baltic Crusades [30 Oct 2011]

Posted: Fri Nov 04, 2011 7:38 am
by ender516
Standing by.

Re: Baltic Crusades [5 Nov 2011]

Posted: Fri Nov 04, 2011 8:32 pm
by thenobodies80
Frame fixed, small version will come in few hours. ;)

[bigimg]http://www.wcforums.org/foundry/BalticCrusades/baltic5.3.png[/bigimg]