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Bananas and food, water, and medical aid to Nepal.

**Leaves behind and infinite bowl of bananas**


--Andy

wow andy's getting political in this thread

targetman377 wrote:wow andy's getting political in this thread

I'm also going to leave this behind.



**Munches on a banana**


--Andy

AndyDufresne wrote:

targetman377 wrote:wow andy's getting political in this thread

I'm also going to leave this behind.



**Munches on a banana**


--Andy

wtf andy i am seriously concerned for your well being.

This following article is something I have been trying to say for a while:

> This week, there have been stories about farmers who can’t legally repair
> their John Deere tractors, as copyright monopoly legislation prohibits
> tampering with computer code in something you own. This has been
> described as an “unexpected side effect” of the copyright monopoly
> legislation in general and the DMCA/EUCD in particular.
>
> That’s wrong. It’s not a side effect and it’s not unexpected. That is
> exactly what those laws intended to accomplish. Being locked out of your
> own possessions is not a side effect – it was the central point of the
> legislation and its core purpose.
>
> As usual, the geeks who understood the deeper repercussions of this cried
> murder over the legislation at the time, and were summarily ignored by
> policymakers. Perhaps only now, when it becomes clear that it’s not just
> geek toys that are affected but everything in our everyday life, will
> more people become aware of how the copyright monopoly limits property
> rights.
>
> This development, eroding property rights of everything, has been driven
> by the cartoon industry – by which I mean the copyright industry in
> general and Disney Corporation in particular.
>
> It started with DRM, Digital Restriction Measures. Somebody thought it
> was both possible and a good idea to control how playback of video and
> audio could take place at people’s homes after they bought music and
> movies. (Imagine that translated to books, by the way, that publishers
> thought it possible to control how a book would be read – where, when and
> how.)
>
> Digital Restriction Measures (DRM) were never about preventing copying,
> even though they were frequently presented as “copy protection”, mostly
> for PR purposes. They did absolutely nothing to prevent copying. They
> prevented playback. They controlled playback. They permitted or didn’t
> permit playback.
>
> However, the technology didn’t work. The technology couldn’t work. It
> wasn’t broken at the technical level, or needed a little bit of
> improvement: it was broken at the conceptual level. It relied on the
> cartoon industry’s ability to prevent the owner of an object to tinker
> with their own property. (This is where tractors and cars come in.)
>
> Obviously, if a computer is able to decode and decrypt a cartoon, then
> the owner of that computer is also able to instruct their own computer
> computer to decode and decrypt it (presumably a copy they bought and
> therefore also own), even against the cartoon industry’s desire for that
> possibility.
>
> This is why DRM is broken at the conceptual level.
>
> In this respect, there is no difference between a copy of a car or
> tractor – one of many identical sold objects off a production line – and
> a CD or DVD. You hold the receipt, you own it. The manufacturer doesn’t
> get to say what you do with your own property.
>
> Or didn’t, at least.
>
> The cartoon industry – copyright industry – realized that they needed to
> attack the core concept of the ability to hold property in order to prop
> up their crumbling copyright monopoly, and pushed for legislation that
> turned out as something called the DMCA in the US and the EUCD/InfoSoc in
> Europe. It “fixes” the conceptual problem with DRM by simply making it
> illegal to tinker with your own property when the original manufacturer,
> who sold the object to you, doesn’t want it tinkered with even after it’s
> been sold to you.
>
> Yes, that’s a blatant intrusion into the very core concept of property
> rights. It also illustrates how the copyright monopoly, a governmentally-
> granted private monopoly, was always firmly in opposition to property
> rights (despite the copyright industry’s insistent attempts to reframe it
> as “property” for PR purposes, which is one of many lies from that
> cartoon industry).
>
> As computers are spreading through society, into every aspect of our
> lives, so are the effects of the law that the copyright industry rammed
> through legislative corridors fifteen years ago.
>
> John Deere claiming that farmers aren’t allowed to tinker with their
> tractors and other farming equipment is not an “unfortunate side effect”
> of copyright monopoly legislation. It was the core idea, all the time, to
> prevent owners of property to exercise their normal property rights. That
> was the only possible way the copyright monopoly was even slightly
> maintainable into a digital environment.
>
> One has to ask whether it was, and continue to be, worth that price.
>
> In any case, now that it’s not just geeks and nerds being affected by the
> cartoon industry’s wholesale slaughter of civil liberties but car owners
> and farmers and most ordinary people, one can hope that understanding of
> the fundamental idiocy of these laws can start to surface a little wider.

So I was busy playing civ. all night with a friend. Gandhi no doubt has use nukes however lucky not on us. We are playing on one down from deity and we are just scraping by. However we seem to turn a corner in the game and have a solid plan. the two top dogs right now are Assyrians and India they are nuking there way to defeating Sweden. The Zulus separate us from them. by the way I am super drunk.

targetman377 wrote:So I was busy playing civ. all night with a friend. Gandhi no doubt has use nukes however lucky not on us. We are playing on one down from deity and we are just scraping by. However we seem to turn a corner in the game and have a solid plan. the two top dogs right now are Assyrians and India they are nuking there way to defeating Sweden. The Zulus separate us from them. by the way I am super drunk.

We know. Otherwise half the words you put in your post would be misspelled.

muy_thaiguy wrote:

targetman377 wrote:So I was busy playing civ. all night with a friend. Gandhi no doubt has use nukes however lucky not on us. We are playing on one down from deity and we are just scraping by. However we seem to turn a corner in the game and have a solid plan. the two top dogs right now are Assyrians and India they are nuking there way to defeating Sweden. The Zulus separate us from them. by the way I am super drunk.

We know. Otherwise half the words you put in your post would be misspelled.

I know weird right? I often wonder why my spelling improves when I am drunk who knows... maybe its why most good authors are alcoholics.

I here the words in my head and that is why I tend to misspell words like there, they're and their...On the other hand, my own voice in my head drown out the other voices.

so stike hears voices....

targetman377 wrote:so stike hears voices....

Targetman has no ears. **Munches on a banana**


--Andy

that's cause I am an elephant!! we hear though our toes.

You're traveling through another dimension, a dimension not only of sight and sound but of mind. A journey into a wondrous land whose boundaries are that of imagination. That's the signpost up ahead - your next stop, the Twilight Zone!

Dukasaur wrote:You're traveling through another dimension, a dimension not only of sight and sound but of mind. A journey into a wondrous land whose boundaries are that of imagination. That's the signpost up ahead - your next stop, the Twilight Zone!

Ah crap. Those horrendous books now have a "zone"? CRAP!

muy_thaiguy wrote:

Dukasaur wrote:You're traveling through another dimension, a dimension not only of sight and sound but of mind. A journey into a wondrous land whose boundaries are that of imagination. That's the signpost up ahead - your next stop, the Twilight Zone!

Ah crap. Those horrendous books now have a "zone"? CRAP!

have you never seen the 60s version pure sci fyi gold

Mondays. **Munches on a banana**




--Andy

Skittles! wrote:

AndyDufresne wrote:

Skittles! wrote:I can't believe this damn thread is still going on.

It is one of the things on Conquer Club that isn't declining as fast as the rest.


**Munches on a banana**


--Andy

I am overall surprised this website still has the domain tbh.

diddle wrote:

Skittles! wrote:I can't believe this damn thread is still going on.

You're telling me...

are you still hot diddle or what

If anything I'm hotter Skittles...

Now I lay me down to sleep,
I pray the Lord my soul to keep;
if I die before I wake,
I pray for Lord my soul to take. Amen

This is an audio cylinder from a Thomas Edison talking doll from the late 1800s, that looked like this one:



What a lovely screaming nightmarish prayer.

**Munches on a banana**


--Andy