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Posted: Thu Dec 07, 2006 3:09 pm
by KoolBak
OK..I gotta ask again - please dont hesitate to tell me if I am being obtuse / thick / dense / stoooooooopid.

I have the map open in another window so am looking at it - Brunei is the Orange country diectly west of the brownish Central Indonesia, yes? It has a line from its northeast corner up to the Phillipines which works. It has a line from the west-southwest corner to Sumatra which DOESNT work. There is NO line or physically connected border between Sumatra and Java to the southeast but that connection DOES work...

Help!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Posted: Thu Dec 07, 2006 3:28 pm
by Hoff
i agree, that area looks very confusing. It looks like an obvious connection, but for some reason that connection does not exist. It really should be cleared up somehow

Posted: Thu Dec 07, 2006 5:50 pm
by horizon
Hey there KoolBak - hope you are doing well:

I have the map open in another window so am looking at it - Brunei is the Orange country diectly west of the brownish Central Indonesia, yes? It has a line from its northeast corner up to the Phillipines which works. It has a line from the west-southwest corner to Sumatra which DOESNT work. There is NO line or physically connected border between Sumatra and Java to the southeast but that connection DOES work...


I've studied this map for a bit today and I think I have the answer. If you look closely, there is a light grey border running along the northern edge of the largish island that you think is Brunei. It would seem that Central Indonesia is actually BOTH the mostly dark gray blob to the right of the circle with the army number AND almost all of the orange island to the left of the circle with the army number. ONLY the very northern edge of that orange island is Brunei. Therefore, the dark grey line which appears to connect Sumatra to Brunei ACTUALLY connects Sumatra with Central Indonesia.

Clear as mud yet? PM me if you don't see it and maybe we can get in the chat and I can make more sense than I do in prose.

Re: CC_Tester and World 2.0 map

Posted: Thu Dec 07, 2006 6:01 pm
by previsualconsent
horizon wrote:
f you use this guys tester
http://www.multiblah.com/cc_tester/
it makes connections very obvious
Map XML File:http://www.conquerclub.com/maps/World_2_0.xml
Map Large Image file:http://www.conquerclub.com/maps/World_2_0.L.jpg


When I use the tester, it cuts off the right edge of this particular map. Does anyone else have that problem?


Yea, i get the same thing. i looked at trying to fix it but i can't.
but i don't think anything thats cut off is too confusing, so yea
oh and bout the comment i made about posting every little quirk, must have been in a bad mood that day. i realize it is essential, but do read the thread first.

Posted: Thu Dec 07, 2006 6:08 pm
by zim
horizon wrote:Hey there KoolBak - hope you are doing well:

I have the map open in another window so am looking at it - Brunei is the Orange country diectly west of the brownish Central Indonesia, yes? It has a line from its northeast corner up to the Phillipines which works. It has a line from the west-southwest corner to Sumatra which DOESNT work. There is NO line or physically connected border between Sumatra and Java to the southeast but that connection DOES work...


I've studied this map for a bit today and I think I have the answer. If you look closely, there is a light grey border running along the northern edge of the largish island that you think is Brunei. It would seem that Central Indonesia is actually BOTH the mostly dark gray blob to the right of the circle with the army number AND almost all of the orange island to the left of the circle with the army number. ONLY the very northern edge of that orange island is Brunei. Therefore, the dark grey line which appears to connect Sumatra to Brunei ACTUALLY connects Sumatra with Central Indonesia.

Clear as mud yet? PM me if you don't see it and maybe we can get in the chat and I can make more sense than I do in prose.


Horizon is correct and the fine rose of Texas is right it's not very clear.

Hopefully this will make my intent clear though it should be changed given the amount of confusion it has caused. I'll put it on the 2.1 todo list.

Image

Cheers,

Zim

Posted: Thu Dec 07, 2006 7:01 pm
by sully800
One thing that should be changed as you clean that area up: The line connecting Sumatra to Java was never changed to the darker gray like the rest of the cross-sea connections.

Posted: Thu Dec 07, 2006 7:16 pm
by gavin_sidhu
I think for next edit just make it Borneo, and chnage Central Indonesia to Sulawesi (the funny shaped island).

Posted: Thu Dec 07, 2006 7:43 pm
by james1
to big

Posted: Fri Dec 08, 2006 1:00 am
by KoolBak
Horizon and Zim - thank you very much - now I know! Love the map my friend, and by the way, it is unhealthy to refer to Texan Women as "He"...LOL!!!!

*pppsssst...horizon be a type F carbon unit*

Posted: Fri Dec 08, 2006 8:09 am
by zim
KoolBak wrote:Horizon and Zim - thank you very much - now I know! Love the map my friend, and by the way, it is unhealthy to refer to Texan Women as "He"...LOL!!!!

*pppsssst...horizon be a type F carbon unit*



KoolBak,

You must have me confused with some other suicidal fellow.

zim wrote:Horizon is correct and the fine rose of Texas is right it's not very clear.


;)

Cheers,

Zim

Posted: Sat Dec 09, 2006 1:19 pm
by Zackismet
please fix the Brunei/Samatra border in the East Indies. It has a big grey line connecting the islands, but i couldn't attack from Brunei to Sumatra

Posted: Sat Dec 09, 2006 2:02 pm
by zim
Zackismet wrote:please fix the Brunei/Samatra border in the East Indies. It has a big grey line connecting the islands, but i couldn't attack from Brunei to Sumatra



Zack see my post of 07 Dec 2006 18:08 above...

Regards,

Zim

Posted: Sat Dec 09, 2006 3:52 pm
by Wisse
zim wrote:
Zackismet wrote:please fix the Brunei/Samatra border in the East Indies. It has a big grey line connecting the islands, but i couldn't attack from Brunei to Sumatra



Zack see my post of 07 Dec 2006 18:08 above...

Regards,

Zim


mayby they can write it somewhere on the map so it is clearer, i didn't see it at al that i coun't attack from brunei

Posted: Sat Dec 09, 2006 6:18 pm
by Zackismet
Zim wrote:
Zack see my post of 07 Dec 2006 18:08 above...

Regards,

Zim

mayby they can write it somewhere on the map so it is clearer, i didn't see it at al that i coun't attack from brunei



oh, thanks... someone in my game just explained that to me too =p :oops:

Posted: Sat Dec 09, 2006 6:50 pm
by dcowboys055
http://www.conquerclub.com/game.php?game=124854

not sure if this is a "bug" but it says

receives 0 armies for holding antarctica

when its listing what bonuses i receive. it doesnt bother me but its kind of weird[/url]

Posted: Sat Dec 09, 2006 8:13 pm
by Gilligan
I thought you were supposed to get 9 armies for holding all of Oceania?

Posted: Sat Dec 09, 2006 8:40 pm
by Kegler
yes, the brunei, central indonesia, sumatra area does not work properly for attacking.
I attacked from central Indo to sumatra because it would not allow brunei to sumatra....It worked from central indo to sumatra, lol, but would not allow the advance of armies. I wanted to finish my goal of far east bonus.

Not sure if you have looked into this. :wink:

thankyou,
kegler

Posted: Sat Dec 09, 2006 8:51 pm
by s.xkitten
Kegler wrote:yes, the brunei, central indonesia, sumatra area does not work properly for attacking.
I attacked from central Indo to sumatra because it would not allow brunei to sumatra....It worked from central indo to sumatra, lol, but would not allow the advance of armies. I wanted to finish my goal of far east bonus.

Not sure if you have looked into this. :wink:

thankyou,
kegler


what the hell do people have against reading the threads before posting....you can't attack from sumatra to brunei...its sumatra to central indonesia...and then central indonesia to brunei...read the thread...he even posted a blown up part of the map for you.... :evil:

Posted: Sun Dec 10, 2006 1:12 am
by Molacole
brunei - sumatra doesn't allow a fortification.

Posted: Sun Dec 10, 2006 1:19 am
by cowshrptrn
Molacole wrote:brunei - sumatra doesn't allow a fortification.


lol,idd you not jsut read the previous post?!?! Brunei ad SUmatra do not border each other, you can even see on the map that they don't....

Posted: Sun Dec 10, 2006 1:28 am
by s.xkitten
what do i have to do to get you guys to read it......look up two posts....look up look up look up.... :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil:

Posted: Sun Dec 10, 2006 2:04 am
by Heimdall
I like the map except i just noticed that there's a bug. You can't attack Sumatra from Brunei for some reason.

I'm just kidding s.xkitten, just wanted to see if you would blow a fuse ;). Great map. It's one i want to play now. I think i got like 9 simultaneous games on it.

Posted: Sun Dec 10, 2006 2:08 am
by s.xkitten
okay good...but not funny :evil: :evil: :evil:

Posted: Sun Dec 10, 2006 2:18 am
by sully800
Gilligan wrote:I thought you were supposed to get 9 armies for holding all of Oceania?


You do. The 9 total is not in addition to the 2 you get for Australia or the 4 for the East Indies. And since you are already holding each of them by holding the whole continent, the log will add those points and say 3 for holding Oceania....which gives you 9 total for holding Oceania

Posted: Sun Dec 10, 2006 2:21 am
by s.xkitten
yeah, haven't gotten those three for a while now...