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Re: Japan - 日本 (D, Gp) V11.2 (Upd 12-6)pg38 Working on Graphics
Posted: Fri Dec 11, 2009 2:23 am
by jefjef
Hi RED.
Like your boshido better enemies you "kill" make graves.
Think you need to have a less faded stamp.
Re: Japan - 日本 (D, Gp) V11.2 (Upd 12-6)pg38 Working on Graphics
Posted: Fri Dec 11, 2009 5:13 am
by natty dread
Choose the font that was on chubu... at least everyone seems to like it.
And I like the Bushido saying better with "bury". It's fitting... what else would buried enemies make but graves?
Re: Japan - 日本 (D, Gp) V11.2 (Upd 12-6)pg38 Working on Graphics
Posted: Fri Dec 11, 2009 9:31 am
by ender516
natty_dread wrote:Choose the font that was on chubu... at least everyone seems to like it.
Agreed. Apart from the fact that [player]fumandomuerte[/player] played with it, I didn't see much support for it, and I find the lower-case "a" in that font to be a problem as well: not closed enough on top for my liking, too easily read as a "u". Chubu (Domo Aregato) seems to have two #1 picks, two #2 picks and my #3. Tohoku (Bonzai) just got two #1s. Of course, you may have a preference, which certainly should carry some weight.
Re: Japan - 日本 (D, Gp) V11.2 (Upd 12-6)pg38 Working on Graphics
Posted: Fri Dec 11, 2009 4:11 pm
by RedBaron0
Re: Japan - 日本 (D, Gp) V11.2 (Upd 12-6)pg38 Working on Graphics
Posted: Sat Dec 12, 2009 12:19 am
by RedBaron0
Domo Aregato it is

[bigimg]http://i213.photobucket.com/albums/cc121/RedBaron0/bigjapan-version118.jpg[/bigimg]
Hopefully I've got the small image ready to go, tonight.... {keyboard faceplant}
[bigimg]http://i213.photobucket.com/albums/cc121/RedBaron0/japan-version118.jpg[/bigimg]
Crap... I forgot to re-add the border around Rishirito. morning, will do..... couple little colors poking out here and there, erase to those little issues and is there anything else you guys see?
Re: Japan - 日本 (D, Gp) V11.2 (Upd 12-6)pg38 Working on Graphics
Posted: Sat Dec 12, 2009 12:20 am
by Bones2484
I guess Im the only one that loved the old font and wasnt bothered by the weird o's and s's.
Re: Japan - 日本 (D, Gp) V11.2 (Upd 12-6)pg38 Working on Graphics
Posted: Sat Dec 12, 2009 1:04 am
by RedBaron0
Bones2484 wrote:I guess I'm the only one that loved the old font and wasn't bothered by the weird o's and s's.
Course not...

Re: Japan - 日本 (D, Gp) V11.2 (Upd 12-6)pg38 Working on Graphics
Posted: Sat Dec 12, 2009 5:24 am
by MrBenn
Bones2484 wrote:I guess Im the only one that loved the old font and wasnt bothered by the weird o's and s's.
I didn't see anything really wrong with it either...
Re: Japan - 日本 (D, Gp) V11.8 (Upd 12-12)pg41 Time's almost up!
Posted: Sat Dec 12, 2009 9:36 am
by natty dread
Hmm, you guys are weird. You should start some kind of "weird o's and s's fanclub"...
Re: Japan - 日本 (D, Gp) V11.8 (Upd 12-12)pg41 Time's almost up!
Posted: Sat Dec 12, 2009 12:33 pm
by RedBaron0
I guess the major question is, does it matter if the O's and S's look weird? Can you all tell they're O's and S's? (yes... otherwise they wouldn't be "weird O's and S's") In which case I am likely to go back to that font,
kudasaiBottom line, the font is extremely easy to change, AND the major thing here is whether or not you can read the names of the territories. Only thing would be to make adjustment where letters cross border lines. Is there any issue with the
MAP? I've changed a couple of the things I was asked to, the stamp is stronger, the compass has been muted. The argument between "kill" and "bury" is arbitrary, with no impact on the map itself, a graphical addition to enhance the "feeling" of Japan, both words convey the same basic message. Honestly I like bury, since it implies you've already killed your enemies, and all that remains for the victor to do is a proper burial of ones enemy. Anything else I'm missing???
Version 11.9
Large:(no change from 11.8 )
[bigimg]http://i213.photobucket.com/albums/cc121/RedBaron0/bigjapan-version118.jpg[/bigimg]
Small:
[bigimg]http://i213.photobucket.com/albums/cc121/RedBaron0/japan-version119.jpg[/bigimg]
Re: Japan - 日本 (D, Gp) V11.8 (Upd 12-12)pg41 Time's almost up!
Posted: Sat Dec 12, 2009 1:04 pm
by Industrial Helix
The only thing about the map that needs to be fixed is the quote... "Enemies you bury make graves" doesn't entirely make sense. Go back to "Enemies you kill make graves"
Re: Japan - 日本 (D, Gp) V11.8 (Upd 12-12)pg41 Time's almost up!
Posted: Sat Dec 12, 2009 1:11 pm
by RedBaron0
RedBaron0 wrote:The argument between "kill" and "bury" is arbitrary, with no impact on the map itself, a graphical addition to enhance the "feeling" of Japan, both words convey the same basic message. Honestly I like bury, since it implies you've already killed your enemies.
Re: Japan - 日本 (D, Gp) V11.8 (Upd 12-12)pg41 Time's almost up!
Posted: Sat Dec 12, 2009 1:17 pm
by the.killing.44
Two things:
I still think your sea lines need work. Less of the opacity jitter and more scattering of your brush settings. Try using natural brushes over the calligraphic.
The font you use for the saying and Mountain / S. of Japan bit is still kind of phony (not to mention it has the o / s problem).
http://www.dafont.com/brush-tipterrence.fonthttp://www.dafont.com/japanese-brush.fontMethinks you were looking under Asian-looking fonts rather than the Brush Calligraphy fonts. The latter are much more authentic and better-looking than the former, which tend to be fake, "fun"-looking fonts.
Re: Japan - 日本 (D, Gp) V11.8 (Upd 12-12)pg41 Time's almost up!
Posted: Sat Dec 12, 2009 9:52 pm
by AndyDufresne
RedBaron0 wrote:RedBaron0 wrote:The argument between "kill" and "bury" is arbitrary, with no impact on the map itself, a graphical addition to enhance the "feeling" of Japan, both words convey the same basic message. Honestly I like bury, since it implies you've already killed your enemies.
Fitting enough, good argument.
Great work on the map. Really looking forward to it.
Though only thing I'd like to maybe see an experimentation with is making the text...either all of the text, or at least the quote and below the legend text...look a little more like it is on the background, like the stamp.
But everything looks pretty superb to me.
--Andy
Re: Japan - 日本 (D, Gp) V11.8 (Upd 12-12)pg41 Time's almost up!
Posted: Sat Dec 12, 2009 10:00 pm
by ender516
AndyDufresne wrote:RedBaron0 wrote:RedBaron0 wrote:The argument between "kill" and "bury" is arbitrary, with no impact on the map itself, a graphical addition to enhance the "feeling" of Japan, both words convey the same basic message. Honestly I like bury, since it implies you've already killed your enemies.
Fitting enough, good argument.
Great work on the map. Really looking forward to it.
Though only thing I'd like to maybe see an experimentation with is making the text...either all of the text, or at least the quote and below the legend text...look a little more like it is on the background, like the stamp.
But everything looks pretty superb to me.
--Andy
I sincerely doubt that fading the text will be a good idea. You would be trading legibility for some sort of artistic realism, which would not be a good deal.
Re: Japan - 日本 (D, Gp) V11.8 (Upd 12-12)pg41 Time's almost up!
Posted: Sat Dec 12, 2009 10:02 pm
by AndyDufresne
I don't think a substantial fade would be needed. I sincerely doubt that a minor fade would increase legibility issues to the degree you are devising in your head.

--Andy
Re: Japan - 日本 (D, Gp) V12.0 (Upd 12-13)pg41 Time's almost up!
Posted: Sun Dec 13, 2009 9:46 am
by RedBaron0
Probably my last shot at punching through before the shut down, no worries if it doesn't.
Version 12.0
Large:
[bigimg]http://i213.photobucket.com/albums/cc121/RedBaron0/bigjapan-version120.jpg[/bigimg]
Small:
[bigimg]http://i213.photobucket.com/albums/cc121/RedBaron0/japan-version120.jpg[/bigimg]
Re: Japan - 日本 (D, Gp) V12.0 (Upd 12-13)pg42 Time's almost up!
Posted: Sun Dec 13, 2009 10:13 am
by isaiah40
Go back with the text on 11.8/11.9, this one is too hard to read. Especially on the small. That's my nitpick for today

Re: Japan - 日本 (D, Gp) V12.0 (Upd 12-13)pg42 Time's almost up!
Posted: Sun Dec 13, 2009 10:18 am
by The Neon Peon
isaiah40 wrote:Go back with the text on 11.8/11.9, this one is too hard to read. Especially on the small. That's my nitpick for today

Just stick with 11.9, that one was perfect. (I agree, hard to read)
And shouldn't the font be more of a FF thing?

Let's have someone move this in there.
Re: Japan - 日本 (D, Gp) V12.0 (Upd 12-13)pg42 Time's almost up!
Posted: Sun Dec 13, 2009 10:38 am
by RedBaron0
As long as the font is the ONLY real issue left I'd agree.

Re: Japan - 日本 (D, Gp) V12.0 (Upd 12-13)pg42 Time's almost up!
Posted: Sun Dec 13, 2009 10:42 am
by isaiah40
RedBaron0 wrote:As long as the font is the ONLY real issue left I'd agree.

That is the only issue I see right now!

So Mr.Benn can you Pleeasse bring out your Gr stamp for this? Pleeeaaase!?

Re: Japan - 日本 (D, Gp) V12.0 (Upd 12-13)pg42 Time's almost up!
Posted: Sun Dec 13, 2009 11:17 am
by natty dread
Yeah, stamp the map. And I agree with previous posters, go back to the previous font.
Re: Japan - 日本 (D, Gp) V12.0 (Upd 12-13)pg42 Time's almost up!
Posted: Sun Dec 13, 2009 11:19 am
by the.killing.44
I meant change the Bushido saying and legend font, not the terts, which were fine…
Re: Japan - 日本 (D, Gp) V12.0 (Upd 12-13)pg42 Time's almost up!
Posted: Sun Dec 13, 2009 11:20 am
by RedBaron0
Opps...
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Re: Japan - 日本 (D, Gp) V12.0 (Upd 12-13)pg42 Time's almost up!
Posted: Sun Dec 13, 2009 11:49 am
by RedBaron0
Version 12.1
Large:
[bigimg]http://i213.photobucket.com/albums/cc121/RedBaron0/bigjapan-version121.jpg[/bigimg]
Small:
[bigimg]http://i213.photobucket.com/albums/cc121/RedBaron0/japan-version121.jpg[/bigimg]
Fixed.