Conquer Club

@EW, how sure are you that whoever is/was your buddy is now converted (or dead..?)? Could there be other reasons for you receiving the sword as well as having the axe?

Ragian wrote:@EW, how sure are you that whoever is/was your buddy is now converted (or dead..?)? Could there be other reasons for you receiving the sword as well as having the axe?

I am now quite sure that I received the sword in ways that do not mean my buddy is converted.

Turns out it was part of a reading issue and I could in fact see messages from longer back in which Sonic said that I received the sword due to <X>, which is a bit more elaborative than Ewe saying that after N2 I now receive the sword.

Will see if I get to use it, unlikely...

Okay, I'm not sure I understood that latter part.

1) Your buddy hasn't been converted and still you ended up with the sword. Was your buddy Fusi? He's the only one who died.
2) You know why you have received the sword, but you're not willing to say so.

I'm pretty confident about no. 1, but I need your nod with regard to no. 2...

Extreme Ways wrote:With that being said if both the people involved in today's main matchup are town then it looks very good for Pix trying to move away from it.

For now it reads partnered with one of them.

meh I'm not trying to move away from anything . Based my voting's off of what information was given at that time. So many roles going around, I'm not sure who I believe anymore

Ragian wrote:Okay, I'm not sure I understood that latter part.

1) Your buddy hasn't been converted and still you ended up with the sword. Was your buddy Fusi? He's the only one who died.
2) You know why you have received the sword, but you're not willing to say so.

I'm pretty confident about no. 1, but I need your nod with regard to no. 2...

I'm thinking the only way you would come out with this information is if Fusi was your buddy, not really sure how else you would receive the sword. Maybe your buddy is "unknown" to you, but you are confident he got converted? In that case it will be hard to pin down who was converted

For now I will unvote Kong

Ragian wrote:Okay, I'm not sure I understood that latter part.

1) Your buddy hasn't been converted and still you ended up with the sword. Was your buddy Fusi? He's the only one who died.
2) You know why you have received the sword, but you're not willing to say so.

I'm pretty confident about no. 1, but I need your nod with regard to no. 2...

Nod regarding 2.

My buddy is still alive, fwiw. Best I can do with 2) is "mod decision"

Extreme Ways wrote:

Ragian wrote:Okay, I'm not sure I understood that latter part.

1) Your buddy hasn't been converted and still you ended up with the sword. Was your buddy Fusi? He's the only one who died.
2) You know why you have received the sword, but you're not willing to say so.

I'm pretty confident about no. 1, but I need your nod with regard to no. 2...

Nod regarding 2.

My buddy is still alive, fwiw. Best I can do with 2) is "mod decision"

So your buddy got converted and you know who it is. Kinda seems weird for you to know that information though

A small reminder to all:

01: On HALLOWEEN the player with most votes will be lynched.
02: The first vote will count double in case of a tie.
03: On HALLOWEEN
the player who sends in his night action last is at risk being killed by the black tailless sow (the Hex / heks / the black witch summoned by GRANDO in female boar pig shape).
04: On HALLOWEEN the dead players, again summoned by GRANDO, return to haunt town!..

(ofcourse Traf cannot play a doubler so he stays in his grave, which is also an option for all summoned)

Fun fact: OCT31 equals DEC25 both in number systems as in Holy Days, because OCT is octal (base aka "base 8" and DEC is decimal (base 10, our normal number system) while October 31 is the Old Celts equivalent to december 25..

Octal 31 is 3*8+1 and decimal 25 is 2*10+5 so both give the same number (25 in decimal) that equals HEX 19 as well,.. and all of that crazy numerology will come together on ALL HALLOWS EVE...

Might be nice with a vote count, then.

@EW, I feel iffy about what Pix is also pointing to... You have received the sword because your buddy has been converted (given that it wasn't Fusi who died and assuming that a vanillarized Strike still could wield the sword)... Doesn't that indicitate that you should be leading a lynch on your buddy?

Ragian wrote:Might be nice with a vote count, then.

@EW, I feel iffy about what Pix is also pointing to... You have received the sword because your buddy has been converted (given that it wasn't Fusi who died and assuming that a vanillarized Strike still could wield the sword)... Doesn't that indicitate that you should be leading a lynch on your buddy?

Yes, if it wasn't for a quote from mod in mason chat saying I received the sword due to a certain result. If Sonic is misleading me there, then f*ck me

Extreme Ways wrote:

Ragian wrote:Might be nice with a vote count, then.

@EW, I feel iffy about what Pix is also pointing to... You have received the sword because your buddy has been converted (given that it wasn't Fusi who died and assuming that a vanillarized Strike still could wield the sword)... Doesn't that indicitate that you should be leading a lynch on your buddy?

Yes, if it wasn't for a quote from mod in mason chat saying I received the sword due to a certain result. If Sonic is misleading me there, then f*ck me

So lead this B*tch

Did you not read the "if"?

3 things.

1. Extreme/other mason.
I don't know how the passing sword/axe mechanism works, but have you considered playing pass the parcel with them as a means of working out who is town?

2. Charle claims he doesn't have night actions so he's sorta immune from this last player to send in actions N3 thing if he isn't lynched so makes me think scum on top of my investigation result.
I'm still wondering if he's miller on the other hand but have to put this aside and leave vote on charle.

3. Charle if you are town and about to be mislynched have you thought about throwing your holy water at someone just beforehand?

Loose Canon wrote:3 things.

1. Extreme/other mason.
I don't know how the passing sword/axe mechanism works, but have you considered playing pass the parcel with them as a means of working out who is town?

2. Charle claims he doesn't have night actions so he's sorta immune from this last player to send in actions N3 thing if he isn't lynched so makes me think scum on top of my investigation result.
I'm still wondering if he's miller on the other hand but have to put this aside and leave vote on charle.

3. Charle if you are town and about to be mislynched have you thought about throwing your holy water at someone just beforehand?

1) Yes.

2) Good point, I should probably join you. I think Charle is hiding something but I'm not sure whether it's scum. He could also be the converted. The night action claim from fusi on Rag makes no sense because I highly doubt there are that many redirectors around

How many redirects does it take?

Ragian wrote:How many redirects does it take?

Myself. I redirected to Jfm.
Someone scum, they redirected vanillaiser from you onto Strike.
Someone scum, they redirected from Charle onto scum.

Unless Charle is like a miller-type villager. Nobody is claiming the other two actions which is why I find it unbelievable, and the second pretty much makes you >rand to be scum because this redirect is one town should claim. It looks like a redirect was used to protect you from any investigatives.

Vote Ragian
I'm entertaining this but I will consolidate if need be.

Charle wrote:I received the following regarding Fusi's role:

Fusi's full role: Miller, Doc, 3 Shot Vanillaiser who protected himself N1 and Vannilaised Ragian N2.
As doc he could not protect the same person the next night.


FP by Kong

Just noticed on rereading that Charle found the miller so Charle can't be miller. Sorry for wasting everyone's space with my Charle might be miller stuff.

Actually scrub my last post just re-read further - double apologies

Loose Canon wrote:Actually scrub my last post just re-read further - double apologies

And the mod himself, told us jfm was the miller, and fusi was the miller's brother, ..but with all the bastard-speak in this game who knows what that really means...

Extreme Ways wrote:

Ragian wrote:How many redirects does it take?

Myself. I redirected to Jfm.
Someone scum, they redirected vanillaiser from you onto Strike.
Someone scum, they redirected from Charle onto scum.

Unless Charle is like a miller-type villager. Nobody is claiming the other two actions which is why I find it unbelievable, and the second pretty much makes you >rand to be scum because this redirect is one town should claim. It looks like a redirect was used to protect you from any investigatives.

Vote Ragian
I'm entertaining this but I will consolidate if need be.

I've been trying to find reasons why EWs reason for voting rag could be flawed. So far they are eluding me.
Rag? Anyone?

I was wondering what the reason was. Apart from entertainment...

Not helping yourself here rag.

We know/ it appears you were likely switched with strike because of vanilla icing.

Argument as I understand it is scum would switch with another likely town (strike) to appear innocent on investigation.
Why on the other hand would scum switch a likely town with ANO?

I understand that

I haven't switched myself (if we are to believe Charle), so you have two options: Someone scum switched me and Strike or Charle is lying. Or you can lynch me and then do the exact same exercise outlined above tomorrow.

It will be absolute great if we can get an updated vote count now.

I am completely town with no night actions, so yes, the last one sending in actions does not effect me at all.

I am not sure what else I can tell here, I have like copied and pasted my roles, letters and investigation received with nothing else more to hide.

I am the Bishop's Secret Agent and hopefully if I am still alive tomorrow, I can possible obtain a bit more info from the dead during N3. I also expect more letters as was promised in the first one.

Whether I am related to a Miller, it could be, but I don't know it.

FP by Ragian

Official Vote count

Charle (3) - Loose, Vot, Kong
Kong (1) - Charle
Ragian (1) - EW
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ON HALLOWEEN THE PLAYER WITH MOST VOTES WILL BE LYNCHED AND IF IT'S A TIE THE FIRST VOTE WILL COUNT DOUBLE (CHARLE HAS THE 2 FIRST VOTES)


deadline is October 31, 23.59 PM IRELAND TIME AKA HALLOWEEN!!

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@Charle, you're saying that Kong is flat out lying about his letter(s?), right?