Conquer Club

Of course god exists, I can manufacture kilotons of god with a wave of my hand.
You could too... if I were to show you how.

A census for Christmas? Who ever heard of a government office opened on Christmas day? The story must be bologna.

DoomYoshi wrote:A census for Christmas? Who ever heard of a government office opened on Christmas day? The story must be bologna.

You are speaking of December 25th correct? Idk who chose that day as the birth date of Jesus but it it obviously not accurate. The fact that there was a census going on, one only needs to look to history to reveal when the Romans had their census. SEPTEMBER is probably the month in which Jesus was actually born.

When's Hannukah this year? The 25th of Kislev, same as every year.

DoomYoshi wrote:A census for Christmas? Who ever heard of a government office opened on Christmas day? The story must be bologna.

Of course it wasn't on THAT DAY. But people do tend to travel on the holidays.

2dimes wrote:
I agree with symmetry. (yeah I know) The bad thing about chapter and verse is that people isolate small bits, then often take them out of context.

Great for making funny quotes or pretending someone agrees with you. Horrible for trying to understand what was actually intended as a whole.

Genesis 22:1 - God tested Abraham and said to him "Abraham!" and he said "Here am I."

Talk about the easiest test ever. I guess it does take some skill to identify your own name and to pay attention when others might be calling you. Abraham also successfully managed to give his location, although that wasnt explicitly asked for. I guess he passed?

You are not lucid.

JP4F

2dimes wrote:Why do you write before the quote?

jusplay4fun wrote:As far as I know, all modern Bibles and Bible translations now use Chapter and Verse divisions and notation. Please read from Wikipeadia:

"The Bible was divided into chapters in the 13th century by Stephen Langton and it was divided into verses in the 16th century by French printer Robert Estienne[15] and is now usually cited by book, chapter, and verse. The division of the Hebrew Bible into verses is based on the sof passuk cantillation mark used by the 10th-century Masoretes to record the verse divisions used in earlier oral traditions."

JP4F

Symmetry wrote:DY- Parables are the best thing in Christianity, IMHO- they are open to question. I kind of like Buddhists Koans for the same reason.

"Luke 2:1" indicates that you prefer a one of the Bibles divided into chapter and verse, right?

The point of chapter and verse is to easily find a part for discussion.

I agree with symmetry. (yeah I know) The bad thing about chapter and verse is that people isolate small bits, then often take them out of context.

Great for making funny quotes or pretending someone agrees with you. Horrible for trying to understand what was actually intended as a whole.

Who is?

jusplay4fun wrote:You are not lucid.

JP4F

2dimes wrote:Why do you write before the quote?

As far as I know, all modern Bibles and Bible translations now use Chapter and Verse divisions and notation. Please read from Wikipeadia:

"The Bible was divided into chapters in the 13th century by Stephen Langton and it was divided into verses in the 16th century by French printer Robert Estienne[15] and is now usually cited by book, chapter, and verse. The division of the Hebrew Bible into verses is based on the sof passuk cantillation mark used by the 10th-century Masoretes to record the verse divisions used in earlier oral traditions."

JP4F

I only agree with symmetry that breaking it into chapter and verse often has a negative effect. As b.k. Used to say though, "Tough to put the toothpaste back into the tube."

2dimes wrote:Who is?

jusplay4fun wrote:You are not lucid.

JP4F

2dimes wrote:Why do you write before the quote?

As far as I know, all modern Bibles and Bible translations now use Chapter and Verse divisions and notation. Please read from Wikipeadia:

"The Bible was divided into chapters in the 13th century by Stephen Langton and it was divided into verses in the 16th century by French printer Robert Estienne[15] and is now usually cited by book, chapter, and verse. The division of the Hebrew Bible into verses is based on the sof passuk cantillation mark used by the 10th-century Masoretes to record the verse divisions used in earlier oral traditions."

JP4F

I only agree with symmetry that breaking it into chapter and verse often has a negative effect. As b.k. Used to say though, "Tough to put the toothpaste back into the tube."

Generally speaking yes, tho there are specific manuscript studies that are done with no breakdowns of chapter & verse and just the text(s) as a whole

Dukasaur wrote:

Hey, this is great Duk, except there is a great deal of nudity including topless female statues. Kind of ironic isn't it?

I love Honeymoon Suite.

Interesting to see a few Hindu images in there. They have some gods that are Elehants and stuff but... we'll ignore that then?

IcePack wrote:

2dimes wrote:I only agree with symmetry that breaking it into chapter and verse often has a negative effect. As b.k. Used to say though, "Tough to put the toothpaste back into the tube."

Generally speaking yes, tho there are specific manuscript studies that are done with no breakdowns of chapter & verse and just the text(s) as a whole

When reading a bible I don't pay any attention to the chapter and verse numbers. If I had a version without them I can't imagine it would read any different.

i think i could put toothpaste back in the tube by having it in my mouth and blowing it back in. being careful not to push some air in obviously. i guess that if you don't moisture the touthpaste too much in your mouth it's kind of okay.

betiko wrote:i think i could put toothpaste back in the tube by having it in my mouth and blowing it back in. being careful not to push some air in obviously. i guess that if you don't moisture the touthpaste too much in your mouth it's kind of okay.

You kids with your plastic toothpaste tubes. Try it with the metal ones from the seventies and before smart Alec.

2dimes wrote:I love Honeymoon Suite.

Interesting to see a few Hindu images in there. They have some gods that are Elehants and stuff but... we'll ignore that then?

IcePack wrote:

2dimes wrote:I only agree with symmetry that breaking it into chapter and verse often has a negative effect. As b.k. Used to say though, "Tough to put the toothpaste back into the tube."

Generally speaking yes, tho there are specific manuscript studies that are done with no breakdowns of chapter & verse and just the text(s) as a whole

When reading a bible I don't pay any attention to the chapter and verse numbers. If I had a version without them I can't imagine it would read any different.

There is what they call "Reader's Bibles" that don't have verse divisions. I imagine that reading an English translation of one without chapters would feel overwhelming, as there would be pages after page of just text with no real place to pause.

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It might seem overwhelming but I find myself just cruising in the ones with the numbers. They are not a help or hinderance.

Before I read it through the first time I did not think I could. Once I got past the first three books of the Torah I found my rythem like a long distance runner. Sometimes I go to look something up and accidentally read through a book in the New Testament. It's not always one of those two page ones.

Anyone familiar with the Roman Breviary?

Not I.