Conquer Club

natty_dread wrote:Sorry for bringing this up so late, but I just noticed it myself.

Does anyone think the Lund-Norway connection is a bit hard to see on the small?

I'll make it clearer

ender516 wrote:

Incandenza wrote:

natty_dread wrote:Sorry for bringing this up so late, but I just noticed it myself.

Does anyone think the Lund-Norway connection is a bit hard to see on the small?

Didn't even realize they touched, so that would be a yes.

Seconded. (Man, I rely on BOB so much.) Though I do wonder, sometimes, if perhaps a map should have the occasional sneaky bit like this, just to make players examine the map as carefully as all the Foundry folk do, hmm?

No.

There you go:

[bigimg]http://i998.photobucket.com/albums/af105/Kabanellas/NapoleonicEurope_V42a_Image_small.png[/bigimg]

That'll do for me

I'm ready to play it.

The Brittany border color needs filled in. (Spot below naval battle site)

The lower 1/2 of the channel between OI and DK could be closed.

Glad England got moved up... Didn't hurt map integrity at all did it Kab.

Something looks funky at the Ws. - London - Yorkshire tert borders. You have some strays and the actually border lines are light.

jefjef wrote:I'm ready to play it.

The Brittany border color needs filled in. (Spot below naval battle site)

The lower 1/2 of the channel between OI and DK could be closed.

Glad England got moved up... Didn't hurt map integrity at all did it Kab.

Something looks funky at the Ws. - London - Yorkshire tert borders. You have some strays and the actually border lines are light.

I'll take care of those issues

here it is... hope this one makes it

[bigimg]http://i998.photobucket.com/albums/af105/Kabanellas/NapoleonicEurope_V42b_Image_small.png[/bigimg]

EXCELLENT!

Rather see Malta and it's army circle actually touch but it works.

Thank you for your work of art! looking forward to a few games with ya.

So sad for me to write this, but Italy is still a problem
Also Sx (in the legend) should be moved up.
[spoiler=colorblind test][/spoiler]

What about an orange color for Italy? Or perhaps Red? Violet might work as you haven't used that color yet.

Or just swap Sardinia's color with the current Kingdom of Italy's color.

ok, I'll try 1 or 2 options

Hi ender,

Great job with the XML Wizard - love it!

Could you please check 2 things: London and Paris seem to deploy only 2 neutrals at start instead of 3;

In Russia, the -2 troops on the winter territories seem to be deducted from total troops:

For example, if someone holds Russia they would get 11 troops, but the XML deducts 7 (-8 from Russian winter +1 from Moscow) and ends up giving the player only 4 bonus troops.

If this is what happens, it's wrong. The -2 troop deduction of each of the 4 winter territories should only apply to each individual territory, not to the total cumulative number of troops. So, if Smolensk had 5 troops on it at the start of the turn, that number would be reudced to 3, but the total bonus received by the player would not change. If the player had only 1 troop on Smolensk, no troop deduction would be made either from Smolensk or the total number of bonus / reinforcement troops.

Thanks,

R

All praise goes to chipv for the Map XML Wizard, an excellent tool.

I must have slipped on London and Paris; I will change them to start with 3 neutrals.

I will look into the winter territories issue. I wonder if this is a problem with the Wizard, which I presume you are using to check gameplay. I believe I have defined the winter territories in the same manner as the Dust Bowl territories from the map of the same name, since they have the effect we were looking for. I'll run a few tests and get back to you. If there is a problem with the Wizard, I'll post to chipv's topic for it.

Here we go - 2 options for the Kingdom of Italy's color:

[bigimg]http://i998.photobucket.com/albums/af105/Kabanellas/NapoleonicEurope_V42g_Image_small.png[/bigimg]

[bigimg]http://i998.photobucket.com/albums/af105/Kabanellas/NapoleonicEurope_V42h_Image_small.png[/bigimg]

I ran the teal version on vischeck and it passes the test. I prefer this one cause the teal adds a little more color down there and it looks nice.

The green appears to me to be very similar... I'd highly recommend the teal.

http://www.vischeck.com/vischeck/vischeckImage.php

it's good for me

I've updated the large map accordingly.

Last versions

[bigimg]http://i998.photobucket.com/albums/af105/Kabanellas/NapoleonicEurope_V36_Image-2.png[/bigimg]

[bigimg]http://i998.photobucket.com/albums/af105/Kabanellas/NapoleonicEurope_V42g_Image_small.png[/bigimg]

also, a map featuring all the neutral starters

[bigimg]http://i998.photobucket.com/albums/af105/Kabanellas/NapoleonicEurope_V36_Image_numbers.png[/bigimg]

If you want to label these latest images with version numbers, I could try to revise the XML over the next couple of days. I still haven't had a chance to investigate the winter territories issue vis-a-vis the Map XML Wizard.

The small map is vastly improved to the version I was so critical of previously - you've done a good job of trying to clear things up.

I still have my concerns about some of the complexity, but I think for the most part these are now my own personal preference, rather than any overt and unnecessary visual complexity.

I'm sure I read something about the Russian Winter, and think I'm in agreement with whoever it was who suggested that some clarity whether this is a decay or a negative bonus would help.

There are still a couple of areas where the territory names are difficult to make out - particularly the abbreviations Ws, Dk, Sx, HO (shouldn't that be NL?)... Is there anyway you can lighten the area behind the text or add a slight pale glow/outline to the text in those areas?

I'm not sure how you're labelling the territories in the XML, but I have a minor niggle that Be & Bu both border Ba - I can see miss-attacks similar to the Shanxi/Shaanxi issue with the China map.

Finally, you could probably straighten the text for Gibraltar a fraction so it doesn't disappear behind the legend (but that's a minor niggle).

Keep up the good work - I think the end is in sight (even if you still feel like you're trapped in a tunnel).

I think that HO should stay since Loius Bonaparte was King of Holland.

Russian Winter territories are decay territories: -2 per turn to troops stationed there to a limit of 1.

Raskholnikov wrote:Russian Winter territories are decay territories: -2 per turn to troops stationed there to a limit of 1.

On the map is reads "Russian Winter Kills Two Troops per turn" and while kill is definitely in line with the war theme... I think Reduce might clarify the wording a bit.

I honestly could go either way. I think its clear that Russian Winter takes two troops, one way or another and that is all that matters.

Ender, can you please check the battles bonus function for all capitals? It seems not to work for any, except Berlin (first capital alphabetically). Thanks.