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[Leehar]

Sheesh, I hate it when I seemingly get pounced on when asleep, but without being omgus, wth IB?
I'm acting in tandem with Saf when we were actually butting heads over edocsil? All I could see from him was support of edoc, so I can't really understand where this case of yours is coming out of. Again without going omgus I'd say you were just trying to deflect attention from yourself since you were another of those advocating for no lynch and seem to have had much closer ties with saf?
But anyway, I'm too antagonistic right now to probably be even able to defend myself properly, so I'll just leave it to that, but I'll quote the guy who pressured Saf as well yesterday (skill?) and ask you to put your money where your mouth is and vote if you honestly seem to feel I've 'added nothing' to this game (and pray what have you done exactly? >_>)
Since Edoc seems to echo your sentiments, I'll have no qualms claiming if you guys honestly feel I'm scummy but at least have the decency to build a case against me instead of this waffling on me. I'm truly starting to believe you just want to get rid of me because I actually bother to comment here.
Also, I can't believe the 2 doctors isn't an issue? I'd think it's obvious either 1 or the other is right, since the concept of their being a naive seems absurd with so little else to support it. Sure put some thought to it, but they need to come out and prove with more evidence then the simple claim on why they're doctors... (I'm still not sure what name was talking about in protecting himself and not BG? :s)

[BGtheBrain]

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[nàme]

i didnt protect you cause i was a true doctor. either you could protect yourself, and you knew it, or you were lying

[BGtheBrain]

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[nàme]

nowhere in the role pm did it say that you cant. i am going to assume you can, although havent tested it. and now you are jumping to conclusions quickly without thought. that seems bad, especially for a known doc. trust me, if i was scum and was supposed to fakeclaim doc, i wouldve done it either later or earlier, not when i was in no danger at all

[Iron Butterfly]

BG you assume alot.

I always assumed a Doc could heal themselves and wasnt sure what a naive was untill a recent game. I was clueless as well so I find it beleiveble in Names case.

If Name were mafia I find it highly unlikely that they would entrust a gambit such as the one he is suspected of making to such an inexperienced player.

[BGtheBrain]

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[edocsil]

i didnt protect you cause i was a true doctor. either you could protect yourself, and you knew it, or you were lying

Naive doctors dont know they are naive.
Also, a true doctor knows they cannot protect themselves.
After that statement I am lead to believe that you are lying, but you were told by a more experienced scummate to come out and counter doc.

They probably didnt count on your inexperience leading to you not knowing the mechanics of the role that your were faking.

I think youre lying strictly because you think I can protect myself.
You cant protect your self (if youre the doc)

either way, im confident enough that you are lying.

vote Name

IB, I could see pressuring Leehar, I have noticed some interaction between him and Saf as well. As my current opinion is hang Name and vig Leehar, perhaps he should make a defense/claim. I am uncertain, it depends on JG's opinion on his vigging.

On a 8 in screen here, pardon if I repeat myself with this
Unvote vote Name


I never use naive docs, I consider them bastard roles. I am willing to risk it losing a doc to prove name a liar. should have steered the attack against BG sooner if he is telling the truth.

[Iron Butterfly]

Edocil have you gone over the chat history of name?

You may not like like naive docs and consider them bastard roles but that doesnt change the fact that they are used by other mods. I do not beleive Name is lieing.

I would rather get rid of Mob who is no use to us. He may have real life reasons not playing but it doesnt help us at all that we can not get a gauge on weather he is Town or Mafia. His game has been more or less, "reading now" and popping in for a few sentences or two.

Mob is a wild card.

Keep this in condideration we do not know about Skill...he is unaccounted for. I have a feeling that he will be making another appearance as the "New and approved 2.0 Intercom"

[jgordon1111]

My thought on name is he is inexpreienced as I am, to back the known vig would be a huge gamble for him if he is mafia.

Same thing applies as claiming doc as a fake claim, unless he is getting guidance from an experienced player on that portion.

But would an experienced player have let him back me like he did, instead of telling him drop the hammer on jg when he had the chance.

No for some reason that isnt adding up to me.

Or there is one brilliant player out there guiding mafia.

BG your hard claim please

[BGtheBrain]

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[jgordon1111]

Sorry about not unvoting, unvote

So yeah

I will ask BG for his claim that he made a deal with on D3.

I probably shouldve added more stipulations to me claiming, but I was more frustrated with you not claiming.

Alimon, Town Doctor, Aegis Angel

You think it sucks being forced to claim vigilante? THIS sucks worse. I wasnt even pressured, but bc of the way you acted, I had to make a deal with you. Had you claimed, I probably couldve avoided claiming. Now I gotta hope there is someone who can swap me. Ironically, I protected Jgordon last night.

Sorry BG had to go back to find it. thanks for reminding me.

[BGtheBrain]

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[jgordon1111]

LOL no It was far enough back that I actually forgot the deal I pushed for my claim, I was focusing on who wanted me lynched the most.

so thats four roles out then. unvote BG

[edocsil]

Edocil have you gone over the chat history of name?

You may not like like naive docs and consider them bastard roles but that doesnt change the fact that they are used by other mods. I do not beleive Name is lieing.

I would rather get rid of Mob who is no use to us. He may have real life reasons not playing but it doesnt help us at all that we can not get a gauge on weather he is Town or Mafia. His game has been more or less, "reading now" and popping in for a few sentences or two.

Mob is a wild card.

Keep this in condideration we do not know about Skill...he is unaccounted for. I have a feeling that he will be making another appearance as the "New and approved 2.0 Intercom"

Every time I have seen Naive anything there have been multiple naives. Cops docs and the like. This is a Power Role mafia. Naive makes no sense. One of them is lying and I will not support a lynch for anyone but one of the two of them. I think Name is trying to take the Doc down with him.

[Iron Butterfly]

Scenarios

Lynch Name Vig Leehar.

a)Best case both are Mafia
b)If Both flip Town we know BG was lying but who would the other be?

Before I vote Name..is Gordon hitting Leehar?

[edocsil]

B. Mob.

C. Hopefully.

[DoomYoshi]

Name at L-1

[Iron Butterfly]

B. Mob.

C. Hopefully.

Im sorry...im not doing hopefully

I do not beleive Name is guilty. Mob has been to sick to post in our game but was able to stir up the strength to post elewhere.

I could have hammered. Now lets see mob make an appearance after the fact.

Id like to know how he can say hes sick or whatever but post elsewhere, yet here we are at a cross roads in our game.

I also dont beleive we have a set deadline.

[Iron Butterfly]

There is at least one doc in this game. Either Doc can be Town. One of them is a real doc and the other is either mafia or Naive.

We can just as easily lynch Mob and Leehar. They are more suspect then Name.

We are playing on the asumption that one mafia is amoung the Docs and One is between Mob and Leharr.

Gosh wouldnt it be funny if we killed Mob and Leharr and they both flip Town? Gee...

[edocsil]

There is at least one doc in this game. Either Doc can be Town. One of them is a real doc and the other is either mafia or Naive.

We can just as easily lynch Mob and Leehar. They are more suspect then Name.

We are playing on the asumption that one mafia is amoung the Docs and One is between Mob and Leharr.

Gosh wouldnt it be funny if we killed Mob and Leharr and they both flip Town? Gee...

Then we would be at LyLo with some damn good guesses as to who is scum. I see no problem

[Leehar]

Why the hell do you want to vig me again? At least get edoc to claim then if thats the only reason to go for me. Tho technically I'm liking him more than IB because of the multiple naive option!

Anyway, I thought jg asking for further claims was because he was wanting notes on what BG and Name actually did each night, and if name didn't use his heal on BG, who did he use it on and why.

Also, if you're still wanting to vig me, let me mount a vigorous defense tomorrow since that did seem to be the discussion that edoc was looking for in chasing me. I'd prefer not to be on the hitlist overnight again. Because again, I can't really understand where this bloodthirstiness is coming from you 2 on me.

[Iron Butterfly]

Why the hell do you want to vig me again? At least get edoc to claim then if thats the only reason to go for me. Tho technically I'm liking him more than IB because of the multiple naive option!

Anyway, I thought jg asking for further claims was because he was wanting notes on what BG and Name actually did each night, and if name didn't use his heal on BG, who did he use it on and why.

Also, if you're still wanting to vig me, let me mount a vigorous defense tomorrow since that did seem to be the discussion that edoc was looking for in chasing me. I'd prefer not to be on the hitlist overnight again. Because again, I can't really understand where this bloodthirstiness is coming from you 2 on me.

Bloodthirstiness (Is that a real word?)? Nope. Just simple process of elimination.

I mentioned nothing about "multiple" Naives. I stated there is a possibility Name or BG is a Naive Doc.

Heres somthing that bothers me. Gordon said he picked up a skill he can only use night three, which means he will have to choose between his Vig shot or night 3 skill.

Second ...BG was outed as a Doc as a direct result of Gordon. How do you forget that? He keeps asking for a hard claim...so either he knows somthing...or hes really really forgetful.

There are just to many loose ends wandering around for my comfort to lynch someone and then go into night with out some clarity.

So Leehar...Its not personal persay but at present you are in the mafia pool. We are ntrying to narrow that pool down.

[jgordon1111]

before we lynch anyone, there are three players who have not claimed at this point, we have time, I say get some pressure on them. Then once everyone has claimed we pick off who's claim looks weakest.

at this point town is still ahead of mafia, and if we can get a lock on both of the mafia its a win.

With that Vote MoB because so far he has spoken less than anyone else that is left.
And it will give him a chance to mount his defence,because I believe the other 2 have thiers ready.

Fastposted By IB,keeping my vote the same for above reason,do not want a speed lynch of anyone without knowing more from those three

[edocsil]

before we lynch anyone, there are three players who have not claimed at this point, we have time, I say get some pressure on them. Then once everyone has claimed we pick off who's claim looks weakest.

at this point town is still ahead of mafia, and if we can get a lock on both of the mafia its a win.

With that Vote MoB because so far he has spoken less than anyone else that is left.
And it will give him a chance to mount his defence,because I believe the other 2 have thiers ready.

Fastposted By IB,keeping my vote the same for above reason,do not want a speed lynch of anyone without knowing more from those three

I would pressure Lehar first, MoB can't even defend himself ATM