Cat. Mafia Pain Killer & Kwanton WIN

Aimless · Post by **Aimless** » Sun Jul 22, 2007 11:36 pm

Skoffin wrote: *Shrugs* Well I'm a night cop anyways, I only found a townie last night though. I'll hold my reading for now though unless that person too comes forward, which I'll confirm, or if I think that person might end up on a chopping block. ...or something >>

Bah I'm tired, quit looking at me!

Alright. Thus, barring a counter claim, we have two (three) confirmed townies.

Skoffin - even if you don't want to reveal their role, you should still name who you investigated.

Skoffin · Post by **Skoffin** » Sun Jul 22, 2007 11:40 pm

Alright, but he's gonna be cranky with me

Koesen is on ze safe list.

Koesen · Post by **Koesen** » Sun Jul 22, 2007 11:40 pm

Interesting.

I didn't believe Mandy was a cop, but I expected something other than a bomb. Some sort of investigative ability.

Anyway, I'm going to wait a bit longer with my claim, for reasons that will become clear when I do it.

Ehm... that sounds more scummy than intended, hehe. But I'll very likely claim before the day is through, since we seem to be on our way to a mass claim.

Fircoal · Post by **Fircoal** » Sun Jul 22, 2007 11:43 pm

Aimless wrote:ga7 acted scummy.

1) I knew mandy was not a cop when I hammered ga7.

2) He claimed "Roleblocker." Roleblocker is a pretty common fakeclaim by scum, because it's one they have a fair chance at getting away with.

3) All of ga7's recent actions have felt to me like he was scum fishing for power roles.

4) I plan on lynching a lot of people today. He was simply the first. I would like to win this game before the night happens.

1) I forgot you hammered him

2) Not really. ACtually I think the best false-claim for scum is bomb.

3) I disargee

4) I think this is the true reason.

Fircoal · Post by **Fircoal** » Sun Jul 22, 2007 11:46 pm

Skoffin wrote:
Fircoal wrote:Should I roleclaim now?

Doooo eeeet!

well okay, I"m next to claim then.

I'm the vig. This is part of the reason I has arguing with Aimless about there being only 1 kill instead of two. At that point, I knew it would be dumb to kill someone, so I didn't send in a kill, as temping as it would be to kill Balsie.

Koesen · Post by **Koesen** » Sun Jul 22, 2007 11:46 pm

Skoffin wrote: Alright, but he's gonna be cranky with me

Koesen is on ze safe list.

No worries, that's okay with me

Since there seem to be several of us right now, I guess I'll claim too.

*drum roll*

I'm a cop.

Which complicates things a bit, given Skoffin's claim.

I investigated Fircoal and got a town result, which is why I recommended against lynching him earlier today.

Now, Skoffin says I'm town, and I know I'm town. Assuming she's not lying, that means she's either sane or naive.

If she's sane, I'm probably insane or naive, which means Fircoal could be anything.

If she's naive, I'm probably sane, and Fircoal is town.

There is of course the possibility that Skoffin is mafia and hopes to gain the trust of a townie by clearing him.

Then again, the same might be said of me, although I personally know I really am town

Skoffin · Post by **Skoffin** » Sun Jul 22, 2007 11:56 pm

Well I claimed first, neiner neiner!

What was your role specifically? My role said night cop, maybe there's a possibility of other cops, such as day cops and so on?
Just throwing it out there >>

Koesen · Post by **Koesen** » Mon Jul 23, 2007 12:02 am

Since rule 2 says that it's okay to quote our role, I feel I can safely say that in my case it says 'night cop' too. And I did indeed investigate during the night.

I think it's just a case of sane/naive (you) and sane/insane/naive (me).

Skoffin · Post by **Skoffin** » Mon Jul 23, 2007 12:10 am

I think it's more likely that I'm the sane one and you're a nutter. Or we're both just normal cops. Hmm..

Aimless · Post by **Aimless** » Mon Jul 23, 2007 12:11 am

That you both confirmed the word "night" as part of your role leaves me to believe you are both telling the truth, Skoffin and Koesen. However, assuming that we can find enough confirmed townies to do so, I would still like to include Skoffin as part of today's lynches, for the same reason that I think it's a good idea to include me in part of today's lynches - just so that, should the game make it to day 3, there will be no question as to the veracity of our claims.

Furthermore; I think the nature of your claims means that Fircoal needs to get lynched. Although, truthfully, I've suspected him of being scum from the beginning.

Koesen · Post by **Koesen** » Mon Jul 23, 2007 12:15 am

I doubt there are two sane cops in a game this size, but you never know.

unfortunately, we can't figure this out today.

Assuming the rest of the town agrees that both of us should be kept alive for now, the only option would be to lynch Fircoal, but we wouldn't know the results until night fall and we might not live to benefit from them.

It might be good for town that mafia doesn't know who's who either, although I suppose we're both doomed

Koesen · Post by **Koesen** » Mon Jul 23, 2007 12:19 am

Aimless wrote:That you both confirmed the word "night" as part of your role leaves me to believe you are both telling the truth, Skoffin and Koesen. However, assuming that we can find enough confirmed townies to do so, I would still like to include Skoffin as part of today's lynches, for the same reason that I think it's a good idea to include me in part of today's lynches - just so that, should the game make it to day 3, there will be no question as to the veracity of our claims.

Furthermore; I think the nature of your claims means that Fircoal needs to get lynched. Although, truthfully, I've suspected him of being scum from the beginning.

I can see how you get to a Fircoal lynch, as the same idea occurred to me before I read the above, but why you and Skoffin?

I am inclined to believe you're both town, and deliberately lynching two townies might push us too far in the wrong direction.

Skoffin · Post by **Skoffin** » Mon Jul 23, 2007 12:46 am

Good, I'm not the only one confused then. I don't quite see the logic in lynching people you are sure are town. And, y'know, I don't particulary want to die either.

Fircoal · Post by **Fircoal** » Mon Jul 23, 2007 12:48 am

Koesen wrote:Since rule 2 says that it's okay to quote our role, I feel I can safely say that in my case it says 'night cop' too. And I did indeed investigate during the night.

I think it's just a case of sane/naive (you) and sane/insane/naive (me).

you can't be insane, I'm town. :wink:

Koesen · Post by **Koesen** » Mon Jul 23, 2007 12:54 am

I'd rather be insane than naive

Then again, odds are you are the only investigation I get to make public, so it doesn't really matter

Fircoal · Post by **Fircoal** » Mon Jul 23, 2007 12:54 am

Aimless wrote:That you both confirmed the word "night" as part of your role leaves me to believe you are both telling the truth, Skoffin and Koesen. However, assuming that we can find enough confirmed townies to do so, I would still like to include Skoffin as part of today's lynches, for the same reason that I think it's a good idea to include me in part of today's lynches - just so that, should the game make it to day 3, there will be no question as to the veracity of our claims.

Furthermore; I think the nature of your claims means that Fircoal needs to get lynched. Although, truthfully, I've suspected him of being scum from the beginning.

I plain disargee. Well mostly, I think that they are both telling the truth, but none of us should be lynched. If you want to lynch me that would be plain stupid.

And how have I been scummy?

Fircoal · Post by **Fircoal** » Mon Jul 23, 2007 12:55 am

Koesen wrote:I'd rather be insane than naive

Then again, odds are you are the only investigation I get to make public, so it doesn't really matter

So would I, but since I know I'm town, it's impossible, for you to be an insane cop.

Fircoal · Post by **Fircoal** » Mon Jul 23, 2007 12:56 am

Skoffin wrote: Good, I'm not the only one confused then. I don't quite see the logic in lynching people you are sure are town. And, y'know, I don't particulary want to die either.

QFT! MY plan is the opposite.

Fircoal · Post by **Fircoal** » Mon Jul 23, 2007 12:57 am

Ok, I know I'll probably be thought of as scummy for this, but I have a plan. I say we lynch everyone but: Mandy, Aimless, Skoffin, Keosen and me. With the nature of there claims, I believe they are all town, and that with everyone else gone either all of the scum will be dead, or it'll be easy to pick off the scum.

Fircoal · Post by **Fircoal** » Mon Jul 23, 2007 12:59 am

Koesen wrote:
Aimless wrote:That you both confirmed the word "night" as part of your role leaves me to believe you are both telling the truth, Skoffin and Koesen. However, assuming that we can find enough confirmed townies to do so, I would still like to include Skoffin as part of today's lynches, for the same reason that I think it's a good idea to include me in part of today's lynches - just so that, should the game make it to day 3, there will be no question as to the veracity of our claims.

Furthermore; I think the nature of your claims means that Fircoal needs to get lynched. Although, truthfully, I've suspected him of being scum from the beginning.

I can see how you get to a Fircoal lynch, as the same idea occurred to me before I read the above, but why you and Skoffin?

I am inclined to believe you're both town, and deliberately lynching two townies might push us too far in the wrong direction.

1) HOW?!?!?!?! I'm not scummy. I'd think people like Kalish would be prime scummy people to lynch.

2) I argee.

Koesen · Post by **Koesen** » Mon Jul 23, 2007 12:59 am

On a side note, if we have a protown bus driver, maybe he should switch Mandy with someone, so that the mafia gets a surprise when they lynch the wrong guy.

Fircoal · Post by **Fircoal** » Mon Jul 23, 2007 1:00 am

Koesen wrote:On a side note, if we have a protown bus driver, maybe he should switch Mandy with someone, so that the mafia gets a surprise when they lynch the wrong guy.

That only works in the night.

Koesen · Post by **Koesen** » Mon Jul 23, 2007 1:04 am

Fircoal wrote:Ok, I know I'll probably be thought of as scummy for this, but I have a plan. I say we lynch everyone but: Mandy, Aimless, Skoffin, Keosen and me. With the nature of there claims, I believe they are all town, and that with everyone else gone either all of the scum will be dead, or it'll be easy to pick off the scum.

Actually, I might be willing to go along with this.

I believe all five or at least four of us are town, so the main risk would be that one of us is scum and there is more scum left than I think.

Koesen · Post by **Koesen** » Mon Jul 23, 2007 1:06 am

Fircoal wrote:
Koesen wrote:On a side note, if we have a protown bus driver, maybe he should switch Mandy with someone, so that the mafia gets a surprise when they lynch the wrong guy.

That only works in the night.

I know that. I just brought up the suggestion to remind the mafia that even if they think they can avoid the bomb, there's really no such certainty, and every night kill may blow up in their face

Skoffin · Post by **Skoffin** » Mon Jul 23, 2007 1:08 am

Mass killings? You trying to make your own version of the latest HP book?