Conquer Club

Ok.

I was discounting his role name completely. I have no reason to believe him given the nature of how he claimed and the fact that he has been so vague in explaining why he claimed that way.

Until he posts an acceptable explanation I'm assuming he's lying about everything.

pancakemix wrote:

edocsil wrote:Do you lose your vote if I fail to kill, or if I fail to kill scum? What happens if you give it to me and I do nothing? Do you still lose your vote?

I only get to keep it if you hit scum. Otherwise I lose it, even if you don't fire.

Keep it then, the vote is more important with 2 other vigs around. Glad I didn't miss last time.

Taken from Mr. Squirrel's post:

Squirrel - King Robert
/ - Bran Stark - flavor cop
Kwan - Rob Stark - vig
Strike - Theon Greyjoy - must have rob and eddard alive to win
PCM - Renly Baratheon - gives kill, loses vote if scum is not killed with the kill he gives, masoned with BG
Rodion - Petyr Baelish - HoTK tracker?
Edocsil - the Hound - vig
Victor Sullivan - Barristan Selmy
BGthebrain - Lorys Tyrell - masoned with PCM
Bleed green - Araya
Haggis McMutton - Eddard Stark - HoTK

I was hoping my semi-fake claim would be able to last through another night, but I guess not. I ask, "Where's the doc?" as a rhetorical question, because I am the doc. The whole "miller/hated townie" sort of claim was a convoluted way of not being a target for future nights, so I could attempt to protect others. I protected Mr. Squirrel both nights, as I got town vibes from him, and his knowledge of Game of Thrones I thought would be an asset for town in the future (it seems I was right). It was funny, Iliad PM'd me asking "Wtf?" when I claimed early Day 2. I lol'd. So my official, real role claim:

I am Barristan Selmy, Lord Commander of the Kingsguard - Town Doctor.

-Sully

I think Edoc has to claim his powers now.

N1 flavour shows he tried to interfere with Talapus' NK action on Naxus, so either he tried to kill Talapus (ANOTHER vig) or he tried to protect Naxus (bodyguard). I'm not considering roleblocker because that was Jonty and JOAT because that was Daze. If Edoc were a vig he would have had 2 N2 NKs. Even though he had a D1 vote on Talapus and he apparently tried to interfere with Talapus' N1 action, I'm now considering that he is more of a bodyguard. Depending on his bodyguard mechanics, though, he is exactly a doctor and that could be an effective doctor counterclaim.

Victor fished the claim out on me, I am the doc. No point in denying. Anyhow, desperate scum is desperate scum. Unless there are two docs is this game, which could just be possible given the number of killers.

Victor, can you protect yourself?

edocsil wrote:Victor fished the claim out on me, I am the doc. No point in denying. Anyhow, desperate scum is desperate scum. Unless there are two docs is this game, which could just be possible given the number of killers.

Victor, can you protect yourself?

I haven't asked. You do realize this increases my suspicions about you. Who did you protect?

-Sully

Naxus and strike. You should have received clarification for that immediately once you got the role. And for the record, you can't.

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I think a small extension is warranted given the circumstances.

Don't have time to post more right now.

One of the two of them is lying but I'm not sure which.

Victor has the better claim (as Barristan did protect the king) but he has been acting very scummy

Edocsil has a worse claim (the hound protected Joffrey Lannister...) but has been acting considerably less scummy.

I'm feeling more apt to vote edocsil just because of his role's flavor. My thought is that they might both be docs, but the hound is a mafia doctor. Being a town doctor really doesn't fit his flavor at all...

I'm not sure. The hound in the show protected Loras Tyrell from The Mountain That Rides and showed sympathy towards Sonsa on at least a couple of occasions and scene flavor suggests that the hound is not related to the Lannisters. Barristan was head of the kingsguard whose duty was to protect the king but he failed in his one opportunity to do so. I do not believe them both to be docs but I'm leaning in favor of edocsil over victor.

Edoc killed chapcrap with the kill I gave him. Unless there's a good reason why the Hound would want the future king dead, I'm certain edoc's town.

Even with all the VS scuminess, I think the most convincing argument is that Haggis got an innocent report on Edoc.

Edoc, if you meta-promise to protect me I'll meta-promise to randomly swap you to increase your living odds.

Mr. Squirrel wrote:One of the two of them is lying but I'm not sure which.

Victor has the better claim (as Barristan did protect the king) but he has been acting very scummy

Edocsil has a worse claim (the hound protected Joffrey Lannister...) but has been acting considerably less scummy.

I'm feeling more apt to vote edocsil just because of his role's flavor. My thought is that they might both be docs, but the hound is a mafia doctor. Being a town doctor really doesn't fit his flavor at all...

Lol, I killed him, I didn't protect him. The Lannister I protected was Tyrion Lannister, and he was town.

Rodion wrote:Even with all the VS scuminess, I think the most convincing argument is that Haggis got an innocent report on Edoc.

Edoc, if you meta-promise to protect me I'll meta-promise to randomly swap you to increase your living odds.

No offense but I am not going to protect you I will have to chose between Rob, the HotK, and possibly VS if we don't hang him.

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Really not sure whether I buy VS' claim. Then again with 6 possible kills in a night, I'm not about to discount it so quickly...

I think this day's just going to end up petering out unless we get an extension...

I don't buy VS's claim at all. As a doc, you do not fakecalim day 2. I don't care what your reasoning is. It draws attention to yourself that is COMPLETELY unnecessary.

No doc would fakeclaim like that without any pressure. No one was even talking about VS.

unvote vote VS

We've caught scum guys.

I suppose. If he's telling the truth he's probably a dead man anyway.

Unvote (if needed) Vote Victor

Doubt we'll get the lynch in today though. Vig him?

Yup. Edoc said there's no self protection either so if he lives he's the GF. Quicklynch tomorrow.

unvote vote Victor

Assuming we kill him, what's the plan for tonight? Do we vig anyone?

Indeed, quite scummy, besides that, even if I don't know the flavor, I do know a great flavor name doesn't go for much AFTER everyone (including you) claimed...
vote sully

any preference to my investigation?

kwanton wrote:Yup. Edoc said there's no self protection either so if he lives he's the GF. Quicklynch tomorrow.

Vote Victor... I have to go with one of the two and with edoc being cleared by Haggis your a head by a inch..

Still think that something is definitely off with BG as well, votes me about not liking the idea of Mafia getting information from Saf, who in the right mind as town would think that information being leaking to scum be a good thing, as well he quickly jumped up and started this wagon without even protecting himself on all accusations against him. I find him extremely scummy but I could not let a no lynch day happen. If we do get the extension that we have asked for I think BG should definitely be looked into further...

I agree with what's all been said. Sorry, I forgot to look back at the past posts and evidence before I made my last post. FOS squirrel for skimming

Unvote vote victor sullivan

Alright, the claim of VS is denied. Unvote Vote Victor