Conquer Club

Posted: **Mon Aug 20, 2007 5:25 pm**

Also maybe fade your signature, make it transparent with the map, so it doesn't stick out so much and blends with the map. But since it's your signature, you can surely keep it whatever way you'd like. I just like signatures that don't immediately get caught by my eye.

--Andy

I think that i explane these MarVal. Every map author try to hes signature be same in all hes work,and i try to all mine signature be same. I hope that these will not be new rule,because if i understand signature is 1 thing what map author have free hands to create like he want(ofcourse if not insult people with hes signature)

Posted: **Mon Aug 20, 2007 5:26 pm**

I almost forget most importan thing,these is a flag of mine country,and these is 1 of reason why i want to keep these signature in these look.

Posted: **Tue Aug 21, 2007 2:42 am**

I don't see any reason why qwert should change his signature for this map.

Posted: **Tue Aug 21, 2007 9:31 pm**

steve monkey wrote:I don't see any reason why qwert should change his signature for this map.

I agree.

My sig does not go with any of the maps I have done.

A map maker may choose to "blend" their sig into the style of the map or they may choose to keep it consistent across all of their works.

It seems qwert and I prefer the 2nd option.

Posted: **Fri Aug 24, 2007 11:01 am**

Qwert, do you think you could supply us with the large and small images with the XML on them?

Also, could you provide text links to the large and small maps, and the XML?

--Andy

Posted: **Fri Aug 24, 2007 3:16 pm**

Ok,no problem

Posted: **Fri Aug 24, 2007 5:37 pm**

ok here all 3 things(only Coleman can help to put XML to link site)

Small

large

XML
<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"

standalone="no"?>
<map>
<title>WWII OPERATION IWO JIMA</title>
<smallwidth>602</smallwidth>
<smallheight>566</smallheight>
<largewidth>708</largewidth>
<largeheight>666</largeheight>
<filetype>png</filetype>
- <continent>
<name>Plan A</name>
<bonus>2</bonus>
- <components>
<component>Plan A</component>
<component>Purple 1</component>
<component>Brown 2</component>
<component>Brown 1</component>
<component>White 2</component>
</components>
</continent>
- <continent>
<name>Plan B</name>
<bonus>3</bonus>
- <components>
<component>Plan B</component>
<component>White 1</component>
<component>Kama Rock</component>
<component>Orange 2</component>
<component>Orange 1</component>
<component>Kangoku Rock</component>
</components>
</continent>
- <continent>
<name>5th Marine Division</name>
<bonus>2</bonus>
- <components>
<component>5th M D</component>
<component>Green</component>
<component>Red 1</component>
<component>Red 2</component>
</components>
</continent>
- <continent>
<name>4th Marine Division</name>
<bonus>3</bonus>
- <components>
<component>4th M D</component>
<component>Yellow 1</component>
<component>Yellow 2</component>
<component>Blue 1</component>
<component>Blue 2</component>
</components>
</continent>
- <continent>
<name>109th Infantry Division</name>
<bonus>6</bonus>
- <components>
<component>Mount Suribachi</component>
<component>Tobiishi point</component>
<component>Nishi</component>
<component>Hill 165</component>
<component>Hill 362 b</component>
<component>Kitano point</component>
<component>Hill 362 c</component>
<component>Tachiiwa point</component>
</components>
</continent>
- <continent>
<name>Air Fields</name>
<bonus>7</bonus>
- <components>
<component>Air fields no 1</component>
<component>Air fields no 2</component>
<component>Air fields no 3</component>
<component>Hill 362 a</component>
<component>Motoyama</component>
<component>Hill 382</component>
<component>Higashi</component>
<component>Minami</component>
</components>
</continent>
- <territory>
<name>Plan A</name>
- <borders>
<border>Plan B</border>
<border>Air fields no 1</border>
<border>Air fields no 2</border>
<border>5th M D</border>
<border>Purple 1</border>
<border>Brown 2</border>
<border>Brown 1</border>
<border>White 2</border>
</borders>
- <coordinates>
<smallx>142</smallx>
<smally>286</smally>
<largex>164</largex>
<largey>340</largey>
</coordinates>
</territory>
- <territory>
<name>Purple 1</name>
- <borders>
<border>Brown 2</border>
<border>Plan A</border>
</borders>
- <coordinates>
<smallx>92</smallx>
<smally>350</smally>
<largex>110</largex>
<largey>408</largey>
</coordinates>
</territory>
- <territory>
<name>Brown 2</name>
- <borders>
<border>Purple 1</border>
<border>Plan A</border>
<border>Brown 1</border>
</borders>
- <coordinates>
<smallx>101</smallx>
<smally>323</smally>
<largex>120</largex>
<largey>376</largey>
</coordinates>
</territory>
- <territory>
<name>Brown 1</name>
- <borders>
<border>Plan A</border>
<border>Brown 2</border>
<border>White 2</border>
</borders>
- <coordinates>
<smallx>107</smallx>
<smally>295</smally>
<largex>127</largex>
<largey>342</largey>
</coordinates>
</territory>
- <territory>
<name>White 2</name>
- <borders>
<border>Plan A</border>
<border>White 1</border>
<border>Brown 1</border>
</borders>
- <coordinates>
<smallx>110</smallx>
<smally>265</smally>
<largex>130</largex>
<largey>309</largey>
</coordinates>
</territory>
- <territory>
<name>Plan B</name>
- <borders>
<border>Nishi</border>
<border>Plan A</border>
<border>White 1</border>
<border>Orange 2</border>
<border>Orange 1</border>
</borders>
- <coordinates>
<smallx>145</smallx>
<smally>212</smally>
<largex>169</largex>
<largey>249</largey>
</coordinates>
</territory>
- <territory>
<name>White 1</name>
- <borders>
<border>Plan B</border>
<border>White 2</border>
<border>Orange 2</border>
<border>Kama Rock</border>
</borders>
- <coordinates>
<smallx>108</smallx>
<smally>233</smally>
<largex>129</largex>
<largey>271</largey>
</coordinates>
</territory>
- <territory>
<name>Orange 2</name>
- <borders>
<border>Plan B</border>
<border>White 1</border>
<border>Orange 1</border>
</borders>
- <coordinates>
<smallx>118</smallx>
<smally>203</smally>
<largex>140</largex>
<largey>234</largey>
</coordinates>
</territory>
- <territory>
<name>Orange 1</name>
- <borders>
<border>Plan B</border>
<border>Orange 2</border>
<border>Kangoku Rock</border>
</borders>
- <coordinates>
<smallx>136</smallx>
<smally>178</smally>
<largex>162</largex>
<largey>206</largey>
</coordinates>
</territory>
- <territory>
<name>Kama Rock</name>
- <borders>
<border>White 1</border>
</borders>
- <coordinates>
<smallx>57</smallx>
<smally>213</smally>
<largex>68</largex>
<largey>248</largey>
</coordinates>
</territory>
- <territory>
<name>Kangoku Rock</name>
- <borders>
<border>Orange 1</border>
</borders>
- <coordinates>
<smallx>57</smallx>
<smally>111</smally>
<largex>71</largex>
<largey>127</largey>
</coordinates>
</territory>
- <territory>
<name>5th M D</name>
- <borders>
<border>Green</border>
<border>Red 1</border>
<border>Red 2</border>
<border>4th M D</border>
<border>Air fields no 1</border>
<border>Plan A</border>
</borders>
- <coordinates>
<smallx>122</smallx>
<smally>401</smally>
<largex>140</largex>
<largey>468</largey>
</coordinates>
</territory>
- <territory>
<name>Green</name>
- <borders>
<border>Red 1</border>
<border>5th M D</border>
</borders>
- <coordinates>
<smallx>140</smallx>
<smally>453</smally>
<largex>166</largex>
<largey>530</largey>
</coordinates>
</territory>
- <territory>
<name>Red 1</name>
- <borders>
<border>Green</border>
<border>Red 2</border>
<border>5th M D</border>
</borders>
- <coordinates>
<smallx>166</smallx>
<smally>438</smally>
<largex>196</largex>
<largey>511</largey>
</coordinates>
</territory>
- <territory>
<name>Red 2</name>
- <borders>
<border>Red 1</border>
<border>5th M D</border>
<border>Yellow 1</border>
</borders>
- <coordinates>
<smallx>190</smallx>
<smally>423</smally>
<largex>223</largex>
<largey>493</largey>
</coordinates>
</territory>
- <territory>
<name>4th M D</name>
- <borders>
<border>5th M D</border>
<border>Yellow 1</border>
<border>Yellow 2</border>
<border>Blue 1</border>
<border>Blue 2</border>
<border>Air fields no 1</border>
<border>Minami</border>
</borders>
- <coordinates>
<smallx>245</smallx>
<smally>337</smally>
<largex>289</largex>
<largey>389</largey>
</coordinates>
</territory>
- <territory>
<name>Yellow 1</name>
- <borders>
<border>Yellow 2</border>
<border>4th M D</border>
<border>Red 2</border>
</borders>
- <coordinates>
<smallx>212</smallx>
<smally>406</smally>
<largex>250</largex>
<largey>472</largey>
</coordinates>
</territory>
- <territory>
<name>Yellow 2</name>
- <borders>
<border>Yellow 1</border>
<border>Blue 1</border>
<border>4th M D</border>
</borders>
- <coordinates>
<smallx>236</smallx>
<smally>387</smally>
<largex>278</largex>
<largey>452</largey>
</coordinates>
</territory>
- <territory>
<name>Blue 1</name>
- <borders>
<border>Blue 2</border>
<border>Yellow 2</border>
<border>4th M D</border>
</borders>
- <coordinates>
<smallx>258</smallx>
<smally>370</smally>
<largex>305</largex>
<largey>432</largey>
</coordinates>
</territory>
- <territory>
<name>Blue 2</name>
- <borders>
<border>Blue 1</border>
<border>4th M D</border>
</borders>
- <coordinates>
<smallx>283</smallx>
<smally>352</smally>
<largex>331</largex>
<largey>410</largey>
</coordinates>
</territory>
- <territory>
<name>Mount Suribachi</name>
- <borders>
<border>Air fields no 2</border>
<border>Tobiishi point</border>
</borders>
- <coordinates>
<smallx>88</smallx>
<smally>443</smally>
<largex>107</largex>
<largey>523</largey>
</coordinates>
</territory>
- <territory>
<name>Tobiishi point</name>
- <borders>
<border>Mount Suribachi</border>
</borders>
- <coordinates>
<smallx>75</smallx>
<smally>487</smally>
<largex>88</largex>
<largey>571</largey>
</coordinates>
</territory>
- <territory>
<name>Nishi</name>
- <borders>
<border>Hill 362 a</border>
<border>Air fields no 3</border>
<border>Hill 362 b</border>
<border>Hill 165</border>
<border>Plan B</border>
</borders>
- <coordinates>
<smallx>226</smallx>
<smally>126</smally>
<largex>266</largex>
<largey>148</largey>
</coordinates>
</territory>
- <territory>
<name>Hill 165</name>
- <borders>
<border>Nishi</border>
<border>Hill 362 b</border>
<border>Kitano point</border>
</borders>
- <coordinates>
<smallx>311</smallx>
<smally>88</smally>
<largex>365</largex>
<largey>100</largey>
</coordinates>
</territory>
- <territory>
<name>Hill 362 b</name>
- <borders>
<border>Hill 362 c</border>
<border>Air fields no 3</border>
<border>Nishi</border>
<border>Hill 165</border>
<border>Kitano point</border>
<border>Air fields no 2</border>
</borders>
- <coordinates>
<smallx>340</smallx>
<smally>113</smally>
<largex>397</largex>
<largey>130</largey>
</coordinates>
</territory>
- <territory>
<name>Hill 362 c</name>
- <borders>
<border>Hill 362 b</border>
<border>Tachiiwa point</border>
<border>Higashi</border>
<border>Air fields no 3</border>
</borders>
- <coordinates>
<smallx>401</smallx>
<smally>157</smally>
<largex>471</largex>
<largey>183</largey>
</coordinates>
</territory>
- <territory>
<name>Kitano point</name>
- <borders>
<border>Hill 165</border>
<border>Hill 362 b</border>
</borders>
- <coordinates>
<smallx>305</smallx>
<smally>58</smally>
<largex>362</largex>
<largey>65</largey>
</coordinates>
</territory>
- <territory>
<name>Tachiiwa point</name>
- <borders>
<border>Higashi</border>
<border>Hill 362 c</border>
</borders>
- <coordinates>
<smallx>414</smallx>
<smally>258</smally>
<largex>488</largex>
<largey>297</largey>
</coordinates>
</territory>
- <territory>
<name>Air fields no 1</name>
- <borders>
<border>Air fields no 2</border>
<border>4th M D</border>
<border>5th M D</border>
<border>Plan A</border>
</borders>
- <coordinates>
<smallx>178</smallx>
<smally>345</smally>
<largex>210</largex>
<largey>400</largey>
</coordinates>
</territory>
- <territory>
<name>Air fields no 2</name>
- <borders>
<border>Air fields no 1</border>
<border>Mount Suribachi</border>
<border>Minami</border>
<border>Hill 382</border>
<border>Motoyama</border>
<border>Hill 362 a</border>
<border>Plan A</border>
<border>Hill 362 b</border>
</borders>
- <coordinates>
<smallx>257</smallx>
<smally>252</smally>
<largex>304</largex>
<largey>293</largey>
</coordinates>
</territory>
- <territory>
<name>Air fields no 3</name>
- <borders>
<border>Hill 362 c</border>
<border>Hill 362 b</border>
<border>Hill 382</border>
<border>Motoyama</border>
<border>Nishi</border>
</borders>
- <coordinates>
<smallx>313</smallx>
<smally>163</smally>
<largex>366</largex>
<largey>187</largey>
</coordinates>
</territory>
- <territory>
<name>Hill 362 a</name>
- <borders>
<border>Air fields no 2</border>
<border>Motoyama</border>
<border>Nishi</border>
</borders>
- <coordinates>
<smallx>230</smallx>
<smally>181</smally>
<largex>271</largex>
<largey>210</largey>
</coordinates>
</territory>
- <territory>
<name>Motoyama</name>
- <borders>
<border>Air fields no 2</border>
<border>Air fields no 3</border>
<border>Hill 382</border>
<border>Hill 362 a</border>
</borders>
- <coordinates>
<smallx>287</smallx>
<smally>190</smally>
<largex>337</largex>
<largey>221</largey>
</coordinates>
</territory>
- <territory>
<name>Minami</name>
- <borders>
<border>Higashi</border>
<border>Hill 382</border>
<border>Air fields no 2</border>
<border>4th M D</border>
</borders>
- <coordinates>
<smallx>310</smallx>
<smally>300</smally>
<largex>365</largex>
<largey>348</largey>
</coordinates>
</territory>
- <territory>
<name>Higashi</name>
- <borders>
<border>Tachiiwa point</border>
<border>Hill 362 c</border>
<border>Hill 382</border>
<border>Minami</border>
</borders>
- <coordinates>
<smallx>368</smallx>
<smally>263</smally>
<largex>433</largex>
<largey>301</largey>
</coordinates>
</territory>
- <territory>
<name>Hill 382</name>
- <borders>
<border>Higashi</border>
<border>Minami</border>
<border>Air fields no 2</border>
<border>Motoyama</border>
<border>Air fields no 3</border>
</borders>
- <coordinates>
<smallx>336</smallx>
<smally>201</smally>
<largex>395</largex>
<largey>234</largey>
</coordinates>
</territory>
</map>

and here links
small
http://i195.photobucket.com/albums/z188 ... X566-1.png
large
http://i195.photobucket.com/albums/z188 ... ncijom.png

Posted: **Fri Aug 24, 2007 5:50 pm**

Could you post images with the XML army coordinates in the circles, for both maps. Qwert?

--Andy

Posted: **Fri Aug 24, 2007 5:56 pm**

i present these before,and you can find these in page 1
"All in page 1"
I hope that you been in page 1?
You know i create these way of work to people dont ask me "where is latest version of map" so i all work put in page 1.

Posted: **Fri Aug 24, 2007 6:06 pm**

http://www.sendspace.com/file/z8b0aa
Its these ok?

Posted: **Fri Aug 24, 2007 11:14 pm**

AndyDufresne wrote:Could you post images with the XML army coordinates in the circles, for both maps. Qwert?

I'm with Andy here, can we just have them on the last page as well? That first post is a mess and it would be much simpler to just have them for quick and easy reference.

There's the same pixelated border issue here that was present in the Eastern Front map. Perhaps use a blur again to try and solve that problem. Apart from that, everything else is looking really nice.

Posted: **Sat Aug 25, 2007 8:46 am**

"Pixelated border issue" You are first who say that border is pixelated.I created border to be simle as can be.

Posted: **Sat Aug 25, 2007 8:48 am**

KEYOGI wrote:
There's the same pixelated border issue here that was present in the Eastern Front map. Perhaps use a blur again to try and solve that problem. Apart from that, everything else is looking really nice.

that appears to be qwerts style, I say we learn to live with it.

Posted: **Sat Aug 25, 2007 8:48 am**

I will erase all images and left only images with and without Army shadows.(i realy dont understand how 6-7 images can create a mess,and only two images have army numbers)

Posted: **Mon Aug 27, 2007 4:44 am**

mibi wrote:that appears to be qwerts style, I say we learn to live with it.

That's not an excuse.

Posted: **Mon Aug 27, 2007 4:51 am**

thats why his maps are so shit and no one plays on them

Posted: **Mon Aug 27, 2007 5:12 am**

I just noticed something about the legend and I can't seem to find anything about it. It has two colors for the background. The top and majority of the middle is colored like the paper and the sides and bottom are light purple.

It almost looks like you forgot to fill in the rest of the legend. Or maybe I am just missing something.

that appears to be qwerts style, I say we learn to live with it.

I agree with Keyogi on this one. Everyone else gets asked to fix pixely borders and make to overall map "cleaner". You can't just say it is a style so I don't need to do it.

Especially since this map is supposed to be an actual map based off of real life, it should be the last "style" that would allow pixeled borders.

Posted: **Mon Aug 27, 2007 8:59 am**

Can someon show me where is problem with borders,i realy dont understand these issue.

WidowMakers Posted: 27 Aug 2007 10:12 Post subject:

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I just noticed something about the legend and I can't seem to find anything about it. It has two colors for the background. The top and majority of the middle is colored like the paper and the sides and bottom are light purple.

It almost looks like you forgot to fill in the rest of the legend. Or maybe I am just missing something.

Yep,these suposte to be like in original.

Posted: **Tue Aug 28, 2007 12:11 am**

WidowMakers wrote:
that appears to be qwerts style, I say we learn to live with it.
I agree with Keyogi on this one. Everyone else gets asked to fix pixely borders and make to overall map "cleaner". You can't just say it is a style so I don't need to do it.

Especially since this map is supposed to be an actual map based off of real life, it should be the last "style" that would allow pixeled borders.

the borders are 1px in some places which doesnt leave any room for anti-aliasing. anyways these borders are fine and anyone that has a problem with them is being anal.

Posted: **Tue Aug 28, 2007 11:45 am**

mibi wrote:These borders are fine and anyone that has a problem with them is being anal.

I agree with this stance.

Posted: **Tue Aug 28, 2007 4:59 pm**

Regardless of your opinion of me mibi it is still an issue that has been raised in the past and been addressed when needed.

qwert, I'm referring to your territory borders, the continent ones seem to be ok. Remember the blur you did to the borders in Eastern Front? Could you do that again for your territory borders in this map.

Posted: **Tue Aug 28, 2007 6:44 pm**

i see no issue........1 person is having a issue with it and thats you keyogi...I like the borders how they are....

We could vote on it but you know you will lose

Posted: **Tue Aug 28, 2007 8:37 pm**

If qwert could do similar to what he did on his previous map, I think it would be top notch.

--Andy

Posted: **Tue Aug 28, 2007 8:55 pm**

KEYOGI wrote:Regardless of your opinion of me mibi

I'm tired of this 'everyone picks on me defense' so many people use. I've seen everyone do it, I maybe have even done it, but it is really glaring when a moderator does it. mibi & I don't see this problem that you do, it doesn't have anything to do with anything else. I call out this behavior every time I see it, regardless of who it is, as qwert, dim, cairns, humley, and even mibi can attest. I will continue to do so.

However, since Andy also sees the problem, and Widow Makers can see the problem, I'm sure it exists. Any argument that Keyogi is the only one who sees the problem isn't realistic. Andy says qwert has fixed it before, but I think he needed red circles to show him where to apply the effect. Could one of you that sees the problem help him by pointing these areas of pixelation out graphically? Visual aids are very very helpful.

Posted: **Tue Aug 28, 2007 9:09 pm**

So, I spot what I consider to be an obvious flaw in the map and leave constructive feedback. If it's not bad enough we have cartographers slinging slurs around, we have other members pitching in as well. Giving feedback is not being anal and I fear for the future of the Map Foundry if it continues down this shakey path.

Keep personal vendettas and sly remarks out of the foundry. Nobody's crying "poor me" so go to the Flame Wars if you want to take digs at people.

Conquer Club

WWII Operation Iwo Jima [Quenched]