Baltic Crusades

[ender516]

The list of names would be a great help.

[theBastard]

o.k. I write (city), (town), (castle) behind names. we can use them for better orientation...

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[Teflon Kris]

Well, I just think someof the icons become obscured by the presence of the numbers on top of them... you could try and enlarged the icons a little to make it more clear.

Or perhaps move the numbers down a little - the icons are great-looking, it would be a shame not to see them.

[theBastard]

thanks DJ.

I will try both... one question, must I add there numbers 888 or it is enough 88?

[theBastard]

enlarged all icons. also moved text and new positions for numbers...
[bigimg]http://img80.imageshack.us/img80/9268/balticmapnumbers.png[/bigimg]

[Industrial Helix]

Big improvement in my opinion. I hope you're doing the same for Hungary int he meantime. Some of the numbers are a tad difficult to read, blu eon Mirau for example. Use the dodge tool in photoshop to make the area of the castle where the numbers overlap slightly lighter, that way the numbers show through better.

And I think I mentioned this before, but the colors over the lower right legend make the words very hard to read. They're not necessary and you could do without.

And this just occurred to me... what about making the territory, castle, town and hanseatic town names in white instead of black. Or perhaps a light gray? I think they would be much more easier on the eyes that way. And don't worry if you don't want to take the time to change every single one... you can change multiple text layers in photoshop: http://blogs.sitepoint.com/2004/11/30/c ... photoshop/

[theBastard]

Big improvement in my opinion.

thanks.

I hope you're doing the same for Hungary int he meantime.

yes, I´m working on Hungary just now...

Some of the numbers are a tad difficult to read, blu eon Mirau for example.

I know. also all grey numbers. have one idea, will see if it works.

Use the dodge tool in photoshop to make the area of the castle where the numbers overlap slightly lighter, that way the numbers show through better.

unfortunately my PS does not work more... I work with GIMP.

And I think I mentioned this before, but the colors over the lower right legend make the words very hard to read. They're not necessary and you could do without.

yes I remeber. but you also mentioned that only shields are not enough to show which bonus is for which continent... ou, and wait please, I hope Nobodies will do any magic with these colours in PS

And this just occurred to me... what about making the territory, castle, town and hanseatic town names in white instead of black. Or perhaps a light gray? I think they would be much more easier on the eyes that way.

will try.

And don't worry if you don't want to take the time to change every single one... you can change multiple text layers in photoshop: http://blogs.sitepoint.com/2004/11/30/c ... photoshop/

as I said, I work on GIMP. but nevermind, I will try also this advice.

[ender516]

thanks DJ.

I will try both... one question, must I add there numbers 888 or it is enough 88?

It's usually a good idea to show 888 because two digits are quite common and the third digit stands in place of the colour code ("r88")

[theBastard]

I think now are numbers visible fine.

the other colour for text (white/light grey) did not look good. there is problem in light coloured territories...
[bigimg]http://img80.imageshack.us/img80/5493/balticmapedited3copiesn.png[/bigimg]

[ender516]

If you can post images without numbers (large and small, if possible), I have enough of the XML together that I can try the Map Inspect tool and post some screenshots showing exactly how the numbers will look in live play.

[theBastard]

here they are:

840x800
[bigimg]http://img11.imageshack.us/img11/872/balticmapedited3copies8.png[/bigimg]

630x600
[bigimg]http://img163.imageshack.us/img163/4298/balticmapedited3copies6.jpg[/bigimg]

or we could go with these a little more contrast. I like them more.
840x800
[bigimg]http://img88.imageshack.us/img88/872/balticmapedited3copies8.png[/bigimg]

630x600
[bigimg]http://img232.imageshack.us/img232/4298/balticmapedited3copies6.jpg[/bigimg]

[natty dread]

If you can post images without numbers (large and small, if possible), I have enough of the XML together that I can try the Map Inspect tool and post some screenshots showing exactly how the numbers will look in live play.

The irony here is that the map inspect tool actually does not show the numbers exactly like they look in play... not since lack changed the font rendering.

The numbers in thebastard's last numbered image are actually closer to how the numbers look in play than the map inspect tool's numbers.

[ender516]

If you can post images without numbers (large and small, if possible), I have enough of the XML together that I can try the Map Inspect tool and post some screenshots showing exactly how the numbers will look in live play.

The irony here is that the map inspect tool actually does not show the numbers exactly like they look in play... not since lack changed the font rendering.

The numbers in thebastard's last numbered image are actually closer to how the numbers look in play than the map inspect tool's numbers.

Oh, that's a shame about the map inspect tool. I hope someone can update it, as it is still useful as a means to generate a text map which can be checked. Would a screenshot from chipv's Map XML Wizard be closer to the look of a game in play?

[natty dread]

No, I think the wizard also uses the old fonts...

[ender516]

Then that makes two jobs for the tool makers (Homo habilis?)

[theBastard]

thenobodies did great job on this map. here is what he did, so we can go with this version. gameplay is still the same, just graphics is changed. thanks nobodies
[bigimg]http://www.fileden.com/files/2009/3/21/2373685/balticcrusades/baltic_crusades.Lnn.png[/bigimg]

[natty dread]

Nice work. I think the sea hue could be adjusted more towards blue though, it looks sort of purple now...

[theBastard]

guys, here are four versions of map edited by thenobodies. he did great work, but please choose which one you like more.

also what do you think about number´s positions?

no1
[bigimg]http://img831.imageshack.us/img831/7353/balticblue1.png[/bigimg]

no2
[bigimg]http://img130.imageshack.us/img130/2057/balticblue21.png[/bigimg]

no3
[bigimg]http://img10.imageshack.us/img10/4421/balticblue2.png[/bigimg]

no4
[bigimg]http://www.fileden.com/files/2009/3/21/2373685/balticcrusades/baltic_crusades.Lnn.png[/bigimg]

[natty dread]

2 or 3 definitely.

[theBastard]

thanks natty

f*ck, I can not create poll. it shows me 8 - 10 possibilities for vote (all which I add there before and nothing helps, I deleted them, crerate poll again...)

[natty dread]

If you've had polls on the thread before you need to get a foundry mod to delete them before you can create a new poll.

I don't think you really need a poll for this anyway. I've noticed during my time in the foundry that foundry polls suck. Nobody answers them if you ask anything more complicated than "do you like this map idea" and such. At this point it's much better to just let people to post their opinion and make your decision based on the feedback.

[thenobodies80]

2 or 3 definitely.

lol, that's because they 're the same map!

The versions are just 3, one link was wrong,my fault.
theBastard i've already edited your first post to remove the wrong image. And i think that now you can also start a poll if you want.
Let me know if it's not possible.

Nobodies

[ender516]

I am working on the XML and have a question: Does the Hanseatic Towns bonus of +1 for three extend to +2 for six?

[theBastard]

2 or 3 definitely.

lol, that's because they 're the same map!

they seem alike to me, but I was tired yesterday and was late. (we spoke about "choose" lol...)

The versions are just 3, one link was wrong,my fault.
theBastard i've already edited your first post to remove the wrong image. And i think that now you can also start a poll if you want.
Let me know if it's not possible.

Nobodies

thanks. no it not work again. f*ck poll, as natty said who have interest will post opinion here...

I am working on the XML and have a question: Does the Hanseatic Towns bonus of +1 for three extend to +2 for six?

yes. hm, maybe do this Hanseatic bonus more interesting? to show Hansetic power in this time era and business monopoly?
+1 for three
+2 for six
+3 for all

[theBastard]

this is how the fucking poll looks like

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