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Re: dangerous 9-11 truthers?

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Woodruff wrote:
captain.crazy wrote:
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Snorri1234 wrote:
Dublanous1 wrote:Well, I believe the world will end in 2012, not really the "end" but a new time, humans will become different, well, the mayans predicted it

The Mayans predicted nothing. They just made a calendar and every time it ran out they just made a new one.

Hell, they made dates for stuff like ceremonies that would happen well after 2012.


The 2012 end-of-the-world stuff is just symptom #24759 of the apocalyptic version of Christianity that's been with this country since the Puritans decided it would be a good place to bunker down, as it was totally about to happen, the evidence was everywhere.


And yet, one world government, church, and all of that stuff is happening now. Satan is said to control the world's food supply... that is happening too.


Prove that Satan is controlling the world's food supply.



http://www.monsanto.com/

Genetically modified grain that produces only one yield, so that farmers are dependant upon the Monsanto corporation.

http://www.kttlaw.com/farm/other_states.htm

A site of lawsuits brought against Monsanto, by the dying breed of farmers...

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=6262083407501596844

Start with that.
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That's not Satan. That is capitalism at it's "finest".
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Timminz wrote:That's not Satan. That is capitalism at it's "finest".


You haven't watched the film.
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captain.crazy wrote:
Woodruff wrote:
captain.crazy wrote:
Frigidus wrote:
Snorri1234 wrote:The Mayans predicted nothing. They just made a calendar and every time it ran out they just made a new one.

Hell, they made dates for stuff like ceremonies that would happen well after 2012.


The 2012 end-of-the-world stuff is just symptom #24759 of the apocalyptic version of Christianity that's been with this country since the Puritans decided it would be a good place to bunker down, as it was totally about to happen, the evidence was everywhere.


And yet, one world government, church, and all of that stuff is happening now. Satan is said to control the world's food supply... that is happening too.


Prove that Satan is controlling the world's food supply.


http://www.monsanto.com/
Genetically modified grain that produces only one yield, so that farmers are dependant upon the Monsanto corporation.
http://www.kttlaw.com/farm/other_states.htm
A site of lawsuits brought against Monsanto, by the dying breed of farmers...
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=6262083407501596844
Start with that.


Nowhere in there is any sort of a proof that Satan has anything to do with anything, never mind the weak assertion that he is controlling the world's food supply. Try again...this time with an actual attempt to back up your insane statement. Thanks.

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Timminz wrote:That's not Satan. That is capitalism at it's "finest".


You haven't watched the film.


A film cannot be proof, by definition. Anything can be put on film...anything. No less than 20 years ago, I had access to military equipment that would allow me to film someone walking in front of the camera and IN REAL TIME, they would not show up on the television screen connected to that camera. So a film shows absolutely nothing. Try again.
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HapSmo19 wrote:This has always interested me:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZzbVn3o8 ... re=related

Funny we never saw any investigation by our hard-hitting news channels on what type of plane(military or passenger) that is exactly. I mean, this is actually solid evidence.....of something 8-[



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The company is pure evil. They are operating under the objective of global dominance. Their connected with the Bildebergers.

http://www.nndb.com/org/514/000042388/
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captain.crazy wrote:The company is pure evil. They are operating under the objective of global dominance. Their connected with the Bildebergers.

http://www.nndb.com/org/514/000042388/


Yeah, I didn't think you could do it either. I thought you might make a better attempt than this though...I'm really quite disappointed in your lack of effort.
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Woodruff wrote:
captain.crazy wrote:The company is pure evil. They are operating under the objective of global dominance. Their connected with the Bildebergers.

http://www.nndb.com/org/514/000042388/


Yeah, I didn't think you could do it either. I thought you might make a better attempt than this though...I'm really quite disappointed in your lack of effort.


there is no point to show it to you, because you refuse to see it. You are conditioned to be skeptical.
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captain.crazy wrote:
Woodruff wrote:
captain.crazy wrote:The company is pure evil. They are operating under the objective of global dominance. Their connected with the Bildebergers.

http://www.nndb.com/org/514/000042388/


Yeah, I didn't think you could do it either. I thought you might make a better attempt than this though...I'm really quite disappointed in your lack of effort.


there is no point to show it to you, because you refuse to see it. You are conditioned to be skeptical.


So you're actually claiming that you COULD show me proof, but you CHOOSE NOT TO? That doesn't seem to be very Christ-like...I believe Christ would expect you to show me your proof. You should try to be Christ-like.
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Woodruff wrote:
captain.crazy wrote:
Woodruff wrote:
captain.crazy wrote:The company is pure evil. They are operating under the objective of global dominance. Their connected with the Bildebergers.

http://www.nndb.com/org/514/000042388/


Yeah, I didn't think you could do it either. I thought you might make a better attempt than this though...I'm really quite disappointed in your lack of effort.


there is no point to show it to you, because you refuse to see it. You are conditioned to be skeptical.


So you're actually claiming that you COULD show me proof, but you CHOOSE NOT TO? That doesn't seem to be very Christ-like...I believe Christ would expect you to show me your proof. You should try to be Christ-like.


That isn't what I said. You have to see it for your self. but you refuse. You have already chosen not to believe... even if He was standing right in front of you, you would not believe. It would be proving to you that you can swim... only, you won't get into the water.
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Yeah. The proof is everywhere. You're just sleeping. Wake up, maaaaan!
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captain.crazy wrote:
Woodruff wrote:
captain.crazy wrote:
Woodruff wrote:
captain.crazy wrote:The company is pure evil. They are operating under the objective of global dominance. Their connected with the Bildebergers.

http://www.nndb.com/org/514/000042388/


Yeah, I didn't think you could do it either. I thought you might make a better attempt than this though...I'm really quite disappointed in your lack of effort.


there is no point to show it to you, because you refuse to see it. You are conditioned to be skeptical.


So you're actually claiming that you COULD show me proof, but you CHOOSE NOT TO? That doesn't seem to be very Christ-like...I believe Christ would expect you to show me your proof. You should try to be Christ-like.


That isn't what I said.


Actually, that's precisely what you said. Go ahead and read your quote right there up above...I'll wait while you do.

captain.crazy wrote:You have to see it for your self. but you refuse.


I don't refuse to see anything. There is nothing TO see. Prove to me that Satan exists or you are a liar. I cannot state it any more plainly than that.

captain.crazy wrote:You have already chosen not to believe... even if He was standing right in front of you, you would not believe.


Asking for proof is not refusal to believe. There are many things for which I require proof before believing in them. Heck, science is chock-full loaded with these sorts of instances, from Copernicus to Galileo to the Wright Brothers. You simply REFUSE TO SHOW ME. Are you a liar? That wouldn't be very Christ-like.
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i want to pick one thing out of this shitpile of crazy because it's the one thing about this 9/11 truth bullshit that really bugs me to death

AAFitz wrote:If one of them fell over sideways, instead of crumbling straight down, the damage could have been much, much more severe, and the loss of life even more devastating.

I dont think its impossible in this situation, to imagine that the government, would take safety precautions, of fitting the buildings to be able to be dropped in an emergency. It would be a tough decision, and no one would ever want to be the one who had to make it, and it may even have been the correct one, but it certainly isnt that far fetched.

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If, hypothetically, someone did have to make a call to demo those buildings, because it was determined they might fall and do more damage, then its inherent that they would never, ever, ever hear the end of it. The lawsuits would be beyond belief, and it simply would never matter if it was the correct decision.



I hate to simplify things like this, but the simplest explanation, often is the correct one. Hijackers hijacked those planes. They crashed them into the buildings. Building 7 seems to have been demolished professionally. If building 7 was wired to blow, it was probably done so previous to the day. If so, its very likely that the other buildings were wired to blow too, in case of an emergency. All speculation, but not at all impossible to believe given the situation.

Now possibly, someone had to give the order, and killed countless people that could have been saved, and possibly someone gave the order, and saved countless people that could not.


look, guy, skyscrapers do not fall down sideways. it doesn't happen. i'm not saying it's rare, or even extremely improbable. a skyscraper falling sideways is physically impossible. further, even if such a thing were possible, why wouldn't the architects build the structure to fall vertically, naturally, if it toppled, instead of installing some secret, arcane demolition button to do the same?

this is a really good post on a separate forum about the wtc collapse written by an actual expert. it is elucidating and everyone should read it but here is the pertinent portion:

No building design would have fallen over like a tree with this sort of impact, physics and strength of materials take a lot of issue with that. That's actualy what the 1993 plot was, by detonating a bomb in the parking garage they had hoped to get one tower to fall and smash into the other. That would have been a trick even if they had put some serious explosives engineering into the plot. We have a hard enough time designing big things with a strength to weight ratio that stands against gravity in one static direction, start to tip it and it collapses like a pile of silly string, not like a redwood. When that moment force goes the wrong way it doesn't take much to turn steel into ribbons, and the fulcrum point just crumbles as the top comes down. If you tried you could get a falling building to favor one direction and fall into an area one or two times its circumference, but I doubt you could make a thousand foot skyscraper fall over and wipe out an area the length of its full height, unless it was designed and built specifically to hold together in that situation. Yeah, no.
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Dancing Mustard wrote:
Dublanous1 wrote:the mayans predicted it and they predicted things like WWII and 9/11 (of course they didn't say a plane will crash into 2 buildings) but they said some form of: "Something bad is going to happen"

Name a single year in human history in which that prediction would not have been true. "Something Bad Will Happen" my arse, pull the other one, it's got bells on it.

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