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Posted: Thu Oct 12, 2006 2:58 pm
by happysadfun
gavin_sidhu wrote:Cant u come up with better names than north and south of countries?
I used my trusty atlas to come up with names.
Posted: Thu Oct 12, 2006 4:20 pm
by Marvaddin
RexRegis, you are the best for doing this map, please dont quit.
In fact, I would say, about mountains, the following:
1) The region like it is would need unpassable borders, or North Norway and North Sweden would have many borders. If there are no mountains, you can use rivers, or can use nothing, simply a barricade, like I used in Brazil map. I didnt want add mountains and rivers that doesnt exist, so I added simple non-crossable borders.
2) Another option would be having a region that is no part of any country, like merging North region of those countries. Maybe this could be a non actual map, but a map of viking kingdoms, I really dont know, but maybe there is another time in History easier to create the map.
Beyond that, maybe we could have more options for continents, looks like we have an excess of medium ones... almost all have 6 countries.
Posted: Thu Oct 12, 2006 4:26 pm
by Master Bush
I'm digging this map. Cant wait to play it.
Posted: Fri Oct 13, 2006 2:00 am
by RexRegis
Ohh. and for mountains that doesn't exist...
I know that my map didn't copy this realistic, but norway is mountains... :p
and the border between sweden and norway are mountains

Posted: Fri Oct 13, 2006 5:24 am
by coup
happysadfun wrote:
the circles are different sizes, i know, this is just preliminary to verify that these are good colours and positions. if i put a name over a few borders, that means that these countries should be merged.
Hi guys,
sorry that I haven't had the time to drop by, this map is really comming along. About the Norwegian map: the regions is very wrong how they are now. And the names are also wrong on alot of them. Since I could have corrected you guys earlier, I feel the blame are a bit on me. This weekend there are 4 birthday parties to attend to

, so I'll try to use all my sparetime to help you guys. You've done a lot of good work!
Posted: Fri Oct 13, 2006 7:58 am
by RexRegis
Ive done everything on the map in layers so it isn't that hard to fix the regions.
and the map have changed a bit since the one you quoted... didn't I post a updated one?
Posted: Sat Oct 14, 2006 1:34 pm
by RexRegis
sorry for the double post, but I'm ready to make some changes if I just get some ideas on what to do.
Posted: Sat Oct 14, 2006 3:28 pm
by Marvaddin
Whats the current map we are talking about?
Posted: Sat Oct 14, 2006 3:34 pm
by RexRegis
I am talking about this map
but with less mountains, I removed the mountains at the russian border.
and I can easely remove some at the border Sweden/Norway
and the names are the names that happysadfun posted
Posted: Sat Oct 14, 2006 4:07 pm
by AndyDufresne
One thing you should look into... Continent names other than the simple 'Directional Area' continents. (North Norway, South Sweden, etc). Perhaps you can find some regional names for the areas that you are using as continents.
--Andy
Posted: Sat Oct 14, 2006 4:46 pm
by RexRegis
Of course...
the names I wrote is just to point out what part is what...
and make some text to know how large the text is.
N.Sweden is Norrland (?)
but I'm very bad at geo... so please help me with the names.
Posted: Sun Oct 15, 2006 10:59 am
by happysadfun
N. Norway is Norrland. I'll try to get the names and dots on a layer for you.
Posted: Sun Oct 15, 2006 12:07 pm
by RexRegis
I know that Norrland is Norrland in swedish wasn't sure about the english term for it.
Thanks for the help with the names...
what do you guys think of the map? is it done? what should be fixed?
mountains? colors? regions? anything... ?
Posted: Sun Oct 15, 2006 2:11 pm
by Marvaddin
Well, of course its not done... but almost
First, why Denmark has some regions that doesnt belong to it in real life?
2nd, would be possible add Iceland? Doing this, maybe we could reposit the legend too, if with that we have a great wasted space.
3rd, if Finland - Russia mountains are not real, remove them, since they are not needed.
4th, I think almost all continents are pretty balanced, we could have some different options. Like, I think you could merge some countries and make Finland a big continent. On other hand, South Norway looks crowded, maybe we can have a smaller continent there...
5th, we need the sea routes.
Think about this, and later we can talk about some more changes, if needed.
Posted: Sun Oct 15, 2006 3:05 pm
by RexRegis
First, why Denmark has some regions that doesnt belong to it in real life?
2nd, would be possible add Iceland? Doing this, maybe we could reposit the legend too, if with that we have a great wasted space.
3rd, if Finland - Russia mountains are not real, remove them, since they are not needed.
4th, I think almost all continents are pretty balanced, we could have some different options. Like, I think you could merge some countries and make Finland a big continent. On other hand, South Norway looks crowded, maybe we can have a smaller continent there...
5th, we need the sea routes.
1. removed one region
2. iceland added. ( the whole map looks better now IMO, but the scale isn't correct hope you can live with that. )
3. mountains gone.
4. merged some in norway, added iceland.. anymore needed?
5. I made a first draft of where the routes can be.
Oops... forgot the sea routes in danmark...
I hope this doesn't cause to much trouble with the name layer... it shouldn't... it should be just to add the iceland names...
Posted: Sun Oct 15, 2006 3:46 pm
by onbekende
Looks nice, but since when is Iceland that big?
Posted: Sun Oct 15, 2006 3:49 pm
by reverend_kyle
I cant live with iceland not being to scale.
Posted: Sun Oct 15, 2006 4:29 pm
by RexRegis
ok ok, when I look at it I see that I can scale it down a little bit more...
but it is still gonna be a bit larger then the real size...
Or... I can make the famouse cut in... place it in a box to show that it isn't real size and place for it.
Posted: Sun Oct 15, 2006 4:31 pm
by reverend_kyle
nah just shrink it a little.. so its not too noticeable.
Posted: Sun Oct 15, 2006 5:30 pm
by RexRegis
I made Iceland a bit smaller and I made Finland one continent.

Posted: Sun Oct 15, 2006 8:30 pm
by AndrewLC
On the key, Iceland is spelt "Island", just wanted to point it out

Posted: Mon Oct 16, 2006 1:47 am
by RexRegis
the legend is still in development, but thanks for pointing it out...
spelled it the swedish way.
Posted: Mon Oct 16, 2006 1:49 am
by reverend_kyle
all of the continents having the same bonus is ghey.... create some diversity.
Posted: Mon Oct 16, 2006 2:13 am
by Marvaddin
He said, the legend is in development...
Anyway, some things...
Did you try Iceland in its natural size? Would it be much smaller? Because if it wouldnt, maybe its not necessary make it bigger.
I was the one that suggested Finland as a single continent, but I was not suggesting it missing that much territories... In fact, I think all map should have at least one big continent, and with 8 continents, at least one could be a gigantic one... this brings more possibilities in strategies, I think. In this map, the country dispersion, if I didnt miscounted, is 5, 5, 5, 5, 6, 6, 7, 8 (hmm, 47?). Maybe we could have some continents with even less countries (the classical continent with 4 countries and 2 borders - Denmark looks perfect!), or more, like 10-11... hmmm, a single Norway, maybe??
And, maybe we are forgeting some countries... the thin island near S. Sweden east coast, that island in Baltics...arent these countries? When will we have the names?
Posted: Mon Oct 16, 2006 2:21 am
by RexRegis
Ahh. ok...
I can add the borders to finland again, I just painted over them so they are actually still there.
I'm not sure of how small iceland actually is, but I can shrink it a little more and remove one part of it so it is a 4 land isle.
I can add lines so Ă–land(small swedish island) and the baltic island is own parts.
and I'll remove one border in danmark so we get fewer parts there.
I don't really like the idea of a single norway, to many border, to long and the only continent that border Iceland
*edit*
here are the changes
the legend now shows the number of regions in the "continent" this is NOT gonna be the bonuses later.
Ohh. and what are you thinking about the baltics being part of scandinavia?
for me it doesn't matter it makes the map more playable for me, but I could remove the baltics and draw a sea route from danmark to finland instead.