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Re: OCEANIA MAP UPDATE Vers. 2.0 Dec. 6th 2008

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Ah, I see :)

And thanks, now I know where all the bonuses come from ;)
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Re: OCEANIA MAP UPDATE Vers. 2.0 Dec. 6th 2008

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[bigimg]http://img339.imageshack.us/img339/4208/mappaoceania840x520verssi0.jpg[/bigimg]

you've taken good feedback and gone in the wrong direction


1. the bombarding missile launchers are gimmicky. placed seemingly just to place them. a geographical map should have a logical reason for something like this to be added. I haven't seen one. Though, it's hard to follow your thread and versions since you only place the new version in the first post. If you could place the updated version in the post where you announce the update as well as the first post, that would be helpful

2. you've lowered the glow but taken away the ability of people to figure out which islands belong to which continent. I personally thought the contrasting glow for the island territories was a good look. it helped players distinguish where a continent ended and a new one began.

people will get confused and not know which continent "Lord Howe Island" belongs. the same with many other places. the glow itself was a good idea but there's a fine line between it being good and helpful and being too strong. before you had it too strong. now you've taken it away completely. somewhere in the middle is the correct route.


that's not necessarily the only way to help people figure out the gameplay (which is part of what graphics are for). You could leave it as it is and used coloured text instead of plain white. but this text might not be as readable on the dark water.

you'll just have to assess the map and find something that works in whatever route you choose.


3. I don't think the compass you've placed in the top right is a good look
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Re: OCEANIA MAP UPDATE Vers. 2.0 Dec. 6th 2008

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I think we're going to post a 2.0 version with the neon effect.
So you can able to choose the best version.

Bombardments will be deleted and bonuses recalculated.

Let me this weekend to fix the posts.
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Re: OCEANIA MAP UPDATE Vers. 2.0 Dec. 6th 2008

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Listen to edbeard, he speaks sense (most of the time ;-))

I'm not too sure if you've thought about the map size? This version is 840px wide, which makes it the large map.... the small map can be no larger than 630px wide, and I think things will be even more unclear on the small version...
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Re: OCEANIA MAP UPDATE Vers. 2.0 Dec. 6th 2008

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MrBenn wrote:Listen to edbeard, he speaks sense (most of the time ;-))

I'm not too sure if you've thought about the map size? This version is 840px wide, which makes it the large map.... the small map can be no larger than 630px wide, and I think things will be even more unclear on the small version...


The graphic is working about that.
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OCEANIA MAP UPDATE! ( 15/12/2008 )

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Which version we have to develope in future?
Please use "reply" to vote, because there're some problem with poll



Version 2.1
[bigimg]http://img338.imageshack.us/img338/1559/mappaoceania840x520versru8.jpg[/bigimg]
Version 2.2
[bigimg]http://img341.imageshack.us/img341/8586/mappaoceania840x520versnz2.jpg[/bigimg]
Version 2.3
[bigimg]http://img242.imageshack.us/img242/6731/mappaoceania840x520versdi8.jpg[/bigimg]

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Re: OCEANIA MAP (UPDATE Pg1 & Pg4 - Poll Open! )

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no one posting? hmm.


well I think the second is clearly the best. it does the same job as the third but allows the image to look a whole lot better. maybe you redrew all the lines because the borders look ten times crisper on the second. nice.


are we sure this ocean isn't too dark? maybe a tinge bit lighter would be better. right now it might be too black. possibly depth should be added so it gives more detail to the image. this might be too many things going on though.

I still think your compass is too gimmicky. try something new there. perhaps you don't need a compass and you can put something that represents oceania? at the very least if you insist on keeping it, make it blend in more.

the legend sticks out at the moment. no idea how to better that though. others might have an idea.


did you take out the bonus numbers accidentally? here's quick guesses as to what they should be just looking at this map.

indigo? - 5 terr, 4 bord (+4)
yellow - 6 terr, 3 bord (+3)
orange - 4 terr, 3 bord (+2) (consider removing the Rawaki border and connecting line islands to rawaki or possibly adding another island to kiribati. having a 4 terr 3 border place makes all the other bonuses tougher to figure out. it should be +3 but then you have places which are slightly harder but +4 might be too much so if you increase those then you have to increase everything else. this orange area makes everything difficult at the moment)
green - 9 terr, 6 bord (+6)
red - 5 terr, 3 bord (+3)
purple - 10 terr, 5 bord (+7)
pink - 5 terr, 3 bord (+3)
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Re: OCEANIA MAP (UPDATE Pg1 & Pg4 - Poll Open! )

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oooh neat looking, i agree @ image number 2 looking better :)
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Re: OCEANIA MAP (UPDATE Pg1 & Pg4 - Poll Open! )

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I color scheme is terrible but the gameplay is fine. Not much new but some interesting setup. Could be a great map but depends on what you do next...
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Re: OCEANIA MAP (UPDATE Pg1 & Pg4 - Poll Open! )

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I think option 1 is the best. The glow just doesn't work on this map. There's too many small islands to have a glow effect. The hard edged looks way better to me. Nice title also btw.

I hope you continue work on this map and don't abandon it.
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Re: OCEANIA MAP (UPDATE Pg1 & Pg4 - Poll Open! )

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I will contact the grafic and we will work on a update in a week!
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Re: OCEANIA MAP (UPDATE Pg1 & Pg4 - Poll Open! )

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i love it! great map mate. keep it up
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Re: OCEANIA MAP (UPDATE Pg1 & Pg4 - Poll Open! )

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Moneymatt wrote:i love it! great map mate. keep it up


We are away till 2nd january 2009 so there will be an update on that days!
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Re: OCEANIA MAP (UPDATE Pg1 & Pg4 - Poll Open! )

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thenobodies80 wrote:I will contact the grafic and we will work on a update in a week!
Thenobodies80

Who's doing the grpahics on this?
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Re: OCEANIA MAP (UPDATE Pg1 & Pg4 - Poll Open! )

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MrBenn wrote:
thenobodies80 wrote:I will contact the grafic and we will work on a update in a week!
Thenobodies80

Who's doing the grpahics on this?



first post

thenobodies80 wrote:Developers :
Graphic : [player]pikkio[/player]
Idea, Gameplay & XML :[player]thenobodies80[/player]
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Re: OCEANIA MAP (UPDATE Pg1 & Pg4 )

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Thanks edbeard... :oops:
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Re: OCEANIA MAP (UPDATE Pg1 & Pg4 )

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MrBenn wrote:Thanks edbeard... :oops:


Thank you edbeard

We are waiting some suggestion about map
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Problem with poll - help please

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I created a post in the map foundry about a map.
Now i have to create a poll.
When i try to create it i did this passage:

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    Poll creation:

    Poll question: Which version i have to develope?

    Poll options: vers. 2.0 no neon
                       vers. 2.1 light neon
                       vers. 2.2 strong neon

    Option per user: 1

This is the normal way to create a poll, so i push the "preview" button and i can see the poll correctly edited on the screen.
So i push the "submit" button but on the screen i saw this:

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Poll:Which version i have to delope?

*vers. 2.2 strong neon
*vers. 2.2 strong neon
*vers. 2.1 light neon
*vers. 2.2 strong neon
*vers. 2.1 light neon
*vers. 2.1 light neon
*vers. 2.0 no neon
*vers. 2.2 strong neon
*vers. 2.0 no neon


I can't open the post in this way! What i can do?
Someone knows this "bug"?
Thank you
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Re: OCEANIA MAP (UPDATE Pg1 & Pg4 )

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Could you make the glow a little less odd looking it makes me feel like its toxic...
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Re: Problem with poll - help please

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You'll have to get a mod to delete the poll for you, for some reason, polls don't always work right in the foundry.
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Re: Problem with poll - help please

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Why do you have the " * " as the first of each line? I would say to start trying it with a letter.

Otherwise, I would say that neon colors in general are rejected in the foundry. Too hard on the eyes if you are going to look at them for a while (say, a speed game that lasts a few rounds)
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Re: Problem with poll - help please

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I'm assuming that this refers to your Oceania map? viewtopic.php?f=241&t=70624&start=0

Polls sometimes go funny, so I have deleted it for you. You'll need to set it up again, as any votes cast have now been lost.

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Re: OCEANIA MAP (UPDATE Pg1 & Pg4 )

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sailorseal wrote:Could you make the glow a little less odd looking it makes me feel like its toxic...


on which version?

guys, we need to know which version do you prefer before we continue. it seems there are some troubles with the poll, so please give us your preference with a post. then when i come back home (2nd of January) i will work on the version that wins. ;)

p.s. find at page 4 the versions 2.1 - 2.2 - 2.3
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Re: OCEANIA MAP (UPDATE Pg1 & Pg4 )

Post by LED ZEPPELINER »

i really like it :D but it confuses me a little because a bunch of territories are a group of islands and they are spread out really far, and also you have a different land color for each territory, but the outline is the same for the bonuses, i really like it but it just confuses me
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Re: OCEANIA MAP (UPDATE Pg1 & Pg4 )

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LED ZEPPELINER wrote:i really like it :D but it confuses me a little because a bunch of territories are a group of islands and they are spread out really far, and also you have a different land color for each territory, but the outline is the same for the bonuses, i really like it but it just confuses me


i think that you watched the first version.. the other versions have same land colours of the bonus area. ;)
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