hecter wrote:black elk speaks wrote:Sorry, but you are wrong. I would love to help as many people as I can learn the skills that I have to offer. I hunt, I am a professional IT manager, I have basic mechanical and carpentry skills. If you have a question, ask and I will give my advice. If you need help doing some work, ask and if I can I will help. But this whole idea about giving people a handout is bull shit.
Look what is happening in corporate AmeriKa. Chrysler is on the verge of collapse, but with their hand out, they are going to pilfer the Federal coffers to keep their out dated business practices operating. 10 years ago they should have become more fuel efficient. They still won't do it. Let them go under, I say.
And your assertion that the government is somehow responsible to keep people happy is strictly retarded. The government is obligated to allow you to pursue happiness, but not to provide it.
I would much rather be an ass hole that completely stupid as you seem to be.
Of course the government has to keep people happy! If they don't then in a democratic society they'll get voted out for somebody who will keep them happy (and in an authoritarian hopefully there will be a revolution). It's basic politics. And you're right about Chrysler. f*ck them, they ran their practice poorly and now they're failing, just like they should. But that's the nature of business. But that doesn't really mean that people are suffering. Of course, people will lose jobs, but they'll be able to find better ones and, if they are in dire need, the government can and should step in with social services to help them.
Also, I don't think you have any idea about what I'm saying. The government shouldn't be giving out "handouts", it's about giving people help so they can be productive members of society. It's not like "unconditional welfare for everybody making below 30 grand a year!", it's services - whether it be welfare or a free nightschool course on how to properly write a resume (it's not like welfare is the only fucking social service on the planet) - for those that want and need it. If somebody decides to squander their welfare money, despite attempts to teach them how to manage money, then take it away from them. If people aren't going to use your help, then don't give it to them. Let them live in their shit hole picking cigarette butts off the ground in an attempt to get a whole cigarette, or hoping to scrounge up enough change to make another bet on the horses. But, I've said it once and I'll say it again, why punish everybody because of the few that you'll never reach?
Your telling us about the nature of business and how its make it or break it but then you say everyone deserves the same so give them all welfare. Contradiction. Second you just said free handouts are F*cked up but then you say give them out to the poor to help them out. Stick to one side of a argument please. Also maybe spend a few more hours searching for the right information and looking at both sides of the story. Then if you feel ready.... DON'T HURT YOURSELF its ok if you cant do this yet. Try and come up with a sentence that you think about before you write and that makes sense. Its ok if it doesnt work we'll all tease you anyway.
