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Re: Sydney Metro V3 (P4) - New additions

Posted: Wed Apr 02, 2008 8:31 am
by greenoaks
the airport is just known as the International Airport so you might be able to drop the KS. it has been a long time since we referred to as Kingsford Smith Airport.

Re: Sydney Metro V3 (P4) - New additions

Posted: Wed Apr 02, 2008 7:23 pm
by gimil
[adv. idea]

Shouldn't be long before move. . .

Re: Sydney Metro V3 (P4) - New additions

Posted: Wed Apr 02, 2008 9:58 pm
by DiM
the old idea was much better :(

Re: Sydney Metro V3 (P4) - New additions

Posted: Wed Apr 02, 2008 10:45 pm
by mibi
Didn't there used to be Olympic paraphernalia all over the place?

Re: Sydney Metro V3 (P4) - New additions

Posted: Thu Apr 03, 2008 5:25 am
by cairnswk
DiM wrote:the old idea was much better :(

yes i agree DiM, but other didn't so i remove all the confusion...now it's just a simple classic style map for the masses, whether they like it or not.

Re: Sydney Metro V3 (P4) - New additions

Posted: Thu Apr 03, 2008 5:26 am
by cairnswk
mibi wrote:Didn't there used to be Olympic paraphernalia all over the place?


Yes mibi,...and like i said to dim it was not popular because people were having trouble understanding it.

Re: Sydney Metro V3 (P4) - New additions

Posted: Thu Apr 03, 2008 7:21 am
by benny profane
i never saw the previous version, but i like this one.
especially the tiny traffic lights (though one is cut off in Brookvale).
people with poor vision may have trouble with those ferry routes though...
maybe dashes instead of dots?
just a thought.

Re: Sydney Metro V3 (P4) - New additions

Posted: Thu Apr 03, 2008 8:23 am
by mibi
cairnswk wrote:
mibi wrote:Didn't there used to be Olympic paraphernalia all over the place?


Yes mibi,...and like i said to dim it was not popular because people were having trouble understanding it.



really? wow, I though it was ten times more understandable then Das Schlutz. Oh well, this will be a fine map with out the Olympic stuff I'm sure.

Re: Sydney Metro V3 (P4) - New additions

Posted: Thu Apr 03, 2008 4:07 pm
by cairnswk
benny profane wrote:i never saw the previous version, but i like this one.
especially the tiny traffic lights (though one is cut off in Brookvale).

i thought the traffic lights would be a good addition,as they haven't happened graphically on any maps yet.

people with poor vision may have trouble with those ferry routes though...
maybe dashes instead of dots?
just a thought.

will do something better for that there...thanks benny profane :)

Re: Sydney Metro V3 (P4) - New additions

Posted: Thu Apr 03, 2008 4:08 pm
by cairnswk
mibi wrote:
cairnswk wrote:
mibi wrote:Didn't there used to be Olympic paraphernalia all over the place?


Yes mibi,...and like i said to dim it was not popular because people were having trouble understanding it.



really? wow, I though it was ten times more understandable then Das Schlutz. Oh well, this will be a fine map with out the Olympic stuff I'm sure.

thanks mibi...i hope so also.

Re: Sydney Metro V3 (P4) - New additions

Posted: Wed Apr 09, 2008 1:44 am
by LLLUUUKKKEEE
YEAH, its back.
Keep up the good work,
dont tell the shire people though.

Re: Sydney Metro V3 (P4) - New additions

Posted: Wed Apr 09, 2008 3:56 am
by cairnswk
LLLUUUKKKEEE wrote:YEAH, its back.
Keep up the good work,
dont tell the shire people though.


HEhehehehe! maybe i will re-work that yet.

Re: Sydney Metro V3 (P4) - New additions

Posted: Wed Apr 09, 2008 4:12 am
by LLLUUUKKKEEE
Why?
Nothing better then seeing them left out.

I do beleive its big enough. It would be to hard to include all of sydney, Im just glad you got where i live - Revesby.

Re: Sydney Metro V3 (P4) - New additions

Posted: Wed Apr 09, 2008 4:30 am
by cairnswk
LLLUUUKKKEEE wrote:Why?
Nothing better then seeing them left out.

I do beleive its big enough. It would be to hard to include all of sydney, Im just glad you got where i live - Revesby.


Oh sorry...i was thinking that i might re-work the shire "continent" areas, that's all.

Of course there is another larger map that can be done of the Blue Mtns etc to inclulde the Hawkesbury and Warragamba Dam, i think it would make great gameplay, but that is for another day.

This is Sydney metro. :)

Re: Sydney Metro V3 (P4) - New additions

Posted: Wed Apr 09, 2008 4:32 am
by cairnswk
BTW....if you've got some aussie mates, drag them in here to vote for support to get this going....we don't have as much interest as New York with the US population on this CC site. ;)

Re: Sydney Metro V3 (P4) - New additions

Posted: Fri Apr 11, 2008 4:46 am
by onbekende
good thing I kept the bonus excel sheet from Sydney 2000 :D

Bonusses:
Parramatta: 5 terr, 2 def/att, 3 cont => Bonus of 3 (2 is indeed better, keep it at 2)
Ryde: 5 terr, 3 def/att, 3 cont => Bonus of 4 (3 is indeed good enough)
Warringah: 5 terr, 2 def/att, 2 cont => Bonus of 3 (2 is more then fine)

now I want to make a note, if you hold the above 3 with 2 territories to defend (Auburn and Opera House) you get alot of army's!! (6 from 18 terr + 7 from bonusses => 12 army's!!!!)
Perhaps an extra attack route is needed from the south to the north? I have no sggestion thou.

Auburn: 5 terr, 4 def/att, 3 cont => Bonus of 4 (3 is well, as 4 would make the above continent set too powerfull)
Inner West: 4 terr, 2 def/att, 2 cont => Bonus of 3 (Perhaps a bonus of 2 is better now, only 2 to defence and easely enough taken continent if you got already 2 terr)
Sydney City: 3 terr, 3 def/att, 7 cont => Bonus of 4 (Make it 3, unless something is done about the upper continent strip)
Waverly: 3 terr, 2 def/att, 2 cont => Bonus of 2 (agreed!)
Bankstown: 4 terr, 4 def/att, 3 cont => Bonus of 4 (I tend to agree with 4)
Cantebury: 6 terr, 5 def/att, 6 cont => Bonus of 6 (5 is good)
Marrickville: 3 terr, 3 def/att, 4 cont => Bonus of 3 (agreed)
Randwick: 5 terr, 3 def/att, 4 cont => Bonus of 4 (3 is good enough)
Rockdale: 4 terr, 3 def/att, 4 cont => Bonus of 4 (3 is more then enough)
Hurstville: 4 terr, 4 def/att, 3 cont => Bonus of 4 (Make it 3, continent will be taken together with Bankstown to turtle)

My bonus analysis


Continents:
Parramatta:
- Move the army shade of Dundas Vallay a bit to the north

Ryde:
- You can complete the name of "Nth Sydney" to North Sydney I believe

Warringah:
- Think about merging Taronga Zoo and Balmoral, isn't needed but will help viewability and gameplay I believe

Auburn:
- Move "Auburn" to the right :D

Inner West:
- I believe switching the name and amry shade ot Drummoyne will add to the viewability of the map
- Concord seems to be messed up on he first letter

Sydney City:
- Think agout removing the traffic lights from the City <=> Opera House crossing, same goes for the other inner-City crossing

Waverly:
- Drop both army shade and name of Vaucluse to the south a bit

Bankstown:
No comments

Cantebury:
No comments

Marrickville:
- space out the army shande and name of Tempe a bit

Randwick:
No comments

Rockdale:
- whats the full name of "KS It'l Airport" and perhaps drop the International?

Hurstville:
No comments




General comments:
Smoothen out the line around the Bonusses place and the map, specifically at the Auburn <=> Parramatta crossing and at the "Ryde" bonus legend
What is that white at the back of the bonus legend?
Make the Pedestrian Crossing with normal gaps (thus showing the color of the below texture) instead of the color of Randwick continent
Spce te ferry line between Opera House <=> Manly a bit to the north when it passes Vaucluse, people might thing its attackable



my concerns for now

Re: Sydney Metro V3 (P4) - New additions

Posted: Fri Apr 11, 2008 10:38 am
by cairnswk
Thanks onbekende....this is current version 3...i'll attend to your changes later thanks.

Image

Re: Sydney Metro V3 (P4) - New additions

Posted: Fri Apr 11, 2008 1:12 pm
by onbekende
you asked for themm he :D

Re: Sydney Metro V3 (P4) - New additions

Posted: Sat Apr 12, 2008 9:26 am
by gimil
Image

See ya ;)

Re: Sydney Metro V3 (P4) - New additions

Posted: Sat Apr 12, 2008 7:49 pm
by Sir. Ricco
I like it so far the colors blend very well. Not so blinding as some maps. I like how you put a lot of defensive points in.

Re: Sydney Metro V3 (P4) - New additions

Posted: Sun Apr 13, 2008 4:14 pm
by cairnswk
gimil wrote:Image

See ya ;)


Thanks Gimil. Can you pull the poll please when you have a mo. :) Thanks

Re: Sydney Metro V3 (P4) - New additions

Posted: Sun Apr 13, 2008 4:18 pm
by cairnswk
Sir. Ricco wrote:I like it so far the colors blend very well. Not so blinding as some maps. I like how you put a lot of defensive points in.

Thanks Sir Ricco...yeh, i,think the colours are good also. Vibrant reflecting a large metro city, but not too in your face. Glad you like so far.

Re: Sydney Metro V3 (P4) [I] - Comments?

Posted: Sun Apr 13, 2008 4:32 pm
by gimil
Interested in a classic style map for Sydney in Australia?

Poll ended at Sun Apr 13, 2008 2:43 am

Yes
11
39%

Yes - With some graphic/gameplay touch-ups
14
50%

No
3
10%

Other - please explain in the thread
0
No votes


Total votes : 28

Re: Sydney Metro V3 (P4) [I] - Comments?

Posted: Mon Apr 14, 2008 3:05 am
by cairnswk
^^^^^ Thanks Gimil ^^^^

Re: Sydney Metro V3 (P4) [I] - Comments?

Posted: Mon Apr 14, 2008 7:09 pm
by Sir. Ricco
Ok, here some things I just like to bring up

1. Do you really need those Stop lights? They kind of crowd the map

2. I like how you made a lot of defensives points in the map. :P

3. The ferry routes are just a little confusing. I get them, but I can see them becoming a problem to the...*Amen* noobs.

4. Inner West I think should be knocked down to 2 bonuses. With only two ways to get into it, it would be pretty easies to defend.