Conquer Club

That's the spirit Gweeedo, the dice are pretty much the same for everyone. You just need to know the right sacrifice to make before a crucial turn

So far that doesn't seem to be working.
Gets kinda frustrating when your opponent gets three of your terits (from the start) and it is almost impossible for you to get one terit! Every single turn...every single game (well almost).
Consistently.
The dice do not even out!

I have a love hate relationship with this game.
I think the hate will soon win me over.
Never liked Computer die rolls. Always have such bad luck with them
I think that is where The luck evens out. Good luck with real dice equals bad luck with computer dice.

Well I'm in one of those CC downturns with dice. When you need them fail, when the game is over impeccable dice. It will turn around the years here proves it to me. I just want to win clan games, nothing else matters really

The dice even out. Right!
How so.
Dice gods vs luck...never even out!

Gweeedo wrote:So far that doesn't seem to be working.
Gets kinda frustrating when your opponent gets three of your terits (from the start) and it is almost impossible for you to get one terit! Every single turn...every single game (well almost).
Consistently.
The dice do not even out!

I have a love hate relationship with this game.
I think the hate will soon win me over.
Never liked Computer die rolls. Always have such bad luck with them
I think that is where The luck evens out. Good luck with real dice equals bad luck with computer dice.

Foe any player that takes unfathomable risks in the first 3 rounds and has no losses. Especially the ones who are high ranking.
I have no misconception that the dice are the same for everyone, because they aren't.

CC needs to have multiple generators, choosable by the player, or by their opponents in cases of tournaments.

Furthermore, the dice stats are a complete pile of steaming BS. Track your rolls sometime, then look at the results on the stat page.
Complete fabrication is what that entire stat list is, an excuse to justify that 'it all works out in the end'

My dice are great!!

Look at me, I are colonel!!

Go dice!!

17 failed to kill 7, went down to 1v3

Game 13635624

cmbdiesel wrote:

Gweeedo wrote:So far that doesn't seem to be working.
Gets kinda frustrating when your opponent gets three of your terits (from the start) and it is almost impossible for you to get one terit! Every single turn...every single game (well almost).
Consistently.
The dice do not even out!

I have a love hate relationship with this game.
I think the hate will soon win me over.
Never liked Computer die rolls. Always have such bad luck with them
I think that is where The luck evens out. Good luck with real dice equals bad luck with computer dice.

Foe any player that takes unfathomable risks in the first 3 rounds and has no losses. Especially the ones who are high ranking.
I have no misconception that the dice are the same for everyone, because they aren't.

CC needs to have multiple generators, choosable by the player, or by their opponents in cases of tournaments.

Furthermore, the dice stats are a complete pile of steaming BS. Track your rolls sometime, then look at the results on the stat page.
Complete fabrication is what that entire stat list is, an excuse to justify that 'it all works out in the end'

You should let sabotage know about this. He can probably connect it to the Illuminati and Cargegie within 3 paragraphs.

Game 13678804 - Just got an EDF for 2 rounds in a row, I'll be getting eliminated soon.

Maybe it's not the end of the world, but enough to screw me out of one win, at least.

Here are some random samples of my dice over the past couple of months:
loutil 4.9 all opponents
Luck Avg Roll 1's 2's 3's 4's 5's 6's Luck Avg Roll 1's 2's 3's 4's 5's 6's
Assault -17% 3.07 13 16 13 11 6 8 +39% 4.48 3 1 4 6 7 12
Defend -20% 3.00 10 8 5 7 6 3 +1% 3.53 13 12 16 16 12 14
Total -18% 3.04 23 24 18 18 12 11 +12% 3.80 16 13 20 22 19 26

loutil 4.9 all opponents
Luck Avg Roll 1's 2's 3's 4's 5's 6's Luck Avg Roll 1's 2's 3's 4's 5's 6's
Assault -14% 3.15 12 14 16 10 4 10 -5% 3.37 6 7 3 10 5 4
Defend -5% 3.37 10 5 8 6 7 7 +10% 3.76 9 10 12 13 12 15
Total -10% 3.24 22 19 24 16 11 17 +5% 3.63 15 17 15 23 17 19

Here is a spread against just one opponent over a 21 game match:
loutil 4.9 italianipastido 4.9
Luck Avg Roll 1's 2's 3's 4's 5's 6's Luck Avg Roll 1's 2's 3's 4's 5's 6's
Assault -3% 3.42 486 475 471 435 441 430 +2% 3.54 220 263 218 232 233 256
Defend -2% 3.46 330 370 330 331 311 330 0% 3.51 605 673 608 666 643 630
Total -2% 3.44 816 845 801 766 752 760 +1% 3.52 825 936 826 898 876 886

loutil 4.9 all opponents
Luck Avg Roll 1's 2's 3's 4's 5's 6's Luck Avg Roll 1's 2's 3's 4's 5's 6's
Assault -12% 3.20 12 8 9 8 5 8 +30% 4.24 1 4 5 5 5 9
Defend -80% 1.50 3 3 0 0 0 0 +26% 4.15 1 1 3 2 2 4
Total -19% 3.02 15 11 9 8 5 8 +28% 4.21 2 5 8 7 7 13

Another lovely string of dice for me.
Even increasing the sample size shows the consistency of my bad dice...
loutil 4.9 all opponents
Luck Avg Roll 1's 2's 3's 4's 5's 6's Luck Avg Roll 1's 2's 3's 4's 5's 6's
Assault -12% 3.20 26 18 21 16 11 18 +12% 3.79 7 9 14 12 9 15
Defend -1% 3.47 20 27 21 24 22 21 +3% 3.58 41 37 37 29 30 54
Total -6% 3.35 46 45 42 40 33 39 +5% 3.63 48 46 51 41 39 69

Here is a streak of 22 dice without rolling a single 6:
loutil 4.9 all opponents
Luck Avg Roll 1's 2's 3's 4's 5's 6's Luck Avg Roll 1's 2's 3's 4's 5's 6's
Assault -47% 2.33 7 0 5 2 1 0 +20% 4.00 1 1 1 3 2 2
Defend -26% 2.86 1 2 2 1 1 0 +37% 4.43 1 1 0 5 3 4
Total -40% 2.50 8 2 7 3 2 0 +30% 4.25 2 2 1 8 5 6

This one is all defense by my opponent:
loutil 4.9 all opponents
Luck Avg Roll 1's 2's 3's 4's 5's 6's Luck Avg Roll 1's 2's 3's 4's 5's 6's
Assault -5% 3.38 6 15 16 14 7 8 +40% 4.49 3 4 2 5 12 13

loutil 4.9 all opponents
Luck Avg Roll 1's 2's 3's 4's 5's 6's Luck Avg Roll 1's 2's 3's 4's 5's 6's
Assault +3% 3.58 2 3 1 1 2 3 +8% 3.71 1 1 0 3 1 1
Defend -69% 1.78 4 4 0 1 0 0 +49% 4.72 0 2 3 1 4 8
Total -28% 2.81 6 7 1 2 2 3 +38% 4.44 1 3 3 4 5 9

loutil 4.9 all opponents
Luck Avg Roll 1's 2's 3's 4's 5's 6's Luck Avg Roll 1's 2's 3's 4's 5's 6's
Assault -48% 2.31 5 3 2 2 1 0 +53% 4.83 0 0 1 0 4 1
Defend -43% 2.43 1 3 2 1 0 0 0% 3.50 2 4 2 3 2 3
Total -46% 2.35 6 6 4 3 1 0 +14% 3.86 2 4 3 3 6 4

loutil 4.9 all opponents
Luck Avg Roll 1's 2's 3's 4's 5's 6's Luck Avg Roll 1's 2's 3's 4's 5's 6's
Assault -1% 3.47 8 9 6 6 8 8 +28% 4.21 3 1 4 6 7 7
Defend -33% 2.67 8 8 1 2 1 4 +7% 3.67 3 8 11 9 9 6
Total -12% 3.19 16 17 7 8 9 12 +15% 3.87 6 9 15 15 16 13

Fascinating, truly.

I'm feeling a little "AVERAGE"

EXPLAIN THIS "MR DATA"

Dear moderators...

I've dropped from major to sergeant in 4 or 5 days, and I love complaining.
So here we go...

Instead of working on completely useless updates, you might want to work an building a REALISTIC dice engine, because the dicerolls I have experienced over the last few days were OFF THE FUCKING WALL. Losing 9vs1 14vs3 and 22vs4 are NOT NORMAL. The odds of winning the euromilloins jackpot are probably higher than the odds of losing rolls like that. I just dare you to take out some real dice and see how long it takes for you to lose those dicerolls. You'll be busy until Christmas...
I checked my dice stats a lot over the last few days and I have seen -36% for me and +24% for my oponents over 25 last battles more than once.
Sure we all have some bad luck at times but when you're playing well for 30 rounds in a game and you see it all go down the drain because you can't win 35vs11, it can be pretty frustrating...
I'm losing trenchgames against chefs who don't even know what a trenchgame is... just saying... if the dice engine would be anywhere near realistic, that would NEVER happen.

In the long run you'll lose players because of the dice engine, I'm pretty sick of trying to get a good ranking but getting smacked in the face with ridiculous dice for days in a row.
Other players tell me: yeah we've all been there...
Well what is the value of having a ranking system, if it's only a reference of how good or bad you're dice have been over the last period of time?
The only players able to keep a good ranking are the ones that only play games with other high ranked players.

So for the love of god, start working on a decent dice system.

moved and merged (when I find the dice bitching thread)

Liu_Kang_81 wrote:Dear moderators...

I've dropped from major to sergeant in 4 or 5 days, and I love complaining.
So here we go...

Instead of working on completely useless updates, you might want to work an building a REALISTIC dice engine, because the dicerolls I have experienced over the last few days were OFF THE FUCKING WALL. Losing 9vs1 14vs3 and 22vs4 are NOT NORMAL. The odds of winning the euromilloins jackpot are probably higher than the odds of losing rolls like that. I just dare you to take out some real dice and see how long it takes for you to lose those dicerolls. You'll be busy until Christmas...
I checked my dice stats a lot over the last few days and I have seen -36% for me and +24% for my oponents over 25 last battles more than once.
Sure we all have some bad luck at times but when you're playing well for 30 rounds in a game and you see it all go down the drain because you can't win 35vs11, it can be pretty frustrating...
I'm losing trenchgames against chefs who don't even know what a trenchgame is... just saying... if the dice engine would be anywhere near realistic, that would NEVER happen.

In the long run you'll lose players because of the dice engine, I'm pretty sick of trying to get a good ranking but getting smacked in the face with ridiculous dice for days in a row.
Other players tell me: yeah we've all been there...
Well what is the value of having a ranking system, if it's only a reference of how good or bad you're dice have been over the last period of time?
The only players able to keep a good ranking are the ones that only play games with other high ranked players.

So for the love of god, start working on a decent dice system.

here is a suggestion... don't use AUTO ATTACK...-Jésus noir

owenshooter wrote:here is a suggestion... don't use AUTO ATTACK...-Jésus noir

This is a good idea because:

1. You may decide part-way through the attack that it is not going well, and that it would be better to save your remaining troops than to continue fighting a losing battle.
2. The dice are not randomly generated, they are read from a data file that is re-used over and over. That file may contain sequences that, if read sequentially in a long series of 3v2 attacks, would cause you to lose (or win) far more often than would be expected if they were random. Depending on how auto-assault is coded, and the number of active players when you make your attack, you may get something closer to random-looking results if you wait a few seconds between attacks.

The dice should be more randomly generated. Because guess what you just gave folks a way to try and exploit the dice rolls and perhaps learn to predict what's next. Kinda sad that real dice work better than this place's dice do.

asellas1025 wrote:The dice should be more randomly generated. Because guess what you just gave folks a way to try and exploit the dice rolls and perhaps learn to predict what's next. Kinda sad that real dice work better than this place's dice do.

What could be more random than random.org?

TeeGee wrote:

asellas1025 wrote:The dice should be more randomly generated. Because guess what you just gave folks a way to try and exploit the dice rolls and perhaps learn to predict what's next. Kinda sad that real dice work better than this place's dice do.

What could be more random than random.org?

They haven't been using random.org for several years.

TeeGee wrote:

asellas1025 wrote:The dice should be more randomly generated. Because guess what you just gave folks a way to try and exploit the dice rolls and perhaps learn to predict what's next. Kinda sad that real dice work better than this place's dice do.

What could be more random than random.org?

in another thread, a user said that we haven't used Random.org for quite some time!!!-Jésus noir

benga wrote:My dice are great!!

Look at me, I are colonel!!

Go dice!!

Don't make me laugh
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owenshooter wrote:

TeeGee wrote:

asellas1025 wrote:The dice should be more randomly generated. Because guess what you just gave folks a way to try and exploit the dice rolls and perhaps learn to predict what's next. Kinda sad that real dice work better than this place's dice do.

What could be more random than random.org?

in another thread, a user said that we haven't used Random.org for quite some time!!!-Jésus noir

I stand corrected, Shows i don't do enough with the tech team

ive left this site a few times before because of major f'ed up dice runs that have lasted weeks even months. feels like over the years its gotten worse

korben dallas wrote:ive left this site a few times before because of major f'ed up dice runs that have lasted weeks even months. feels like over the years its gotten worse

funny... you only joined in november... see you in C&A...-Jésus noir

p.s. - Subject: korben dallas / multiple accounts