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Re: Be Aware C C automatically will bill you
Posted: Mon Mar 27, 2017 8:01 am
by Arama86n
Welcome to the real world Neo.
I'm not saying I like it. I am however saying that this is a common practice for most provided services today.
It is in the interest of the businesses to force the consumer to remember to cancel a service, instead of having to woo the consumer in an attempt to secure repeat business (like it should be done, in a perfect world).
It's annoying, but has become a part of life.
On a related topic, if anyone reading this knows the above "all too well", and has lost track of the services they are being charged for, my advice is to cancel your card and start from scratch. Sure, not having access to your netflix account for four minutes will be frustrating, but chances are you are going to save yourself money by unknowingly cancelling some service you don't even use and have forgotten about
Re: Be Aware C C automatically will bill you
Posted: Mon Mar 27, 2017 4:27 pm
by BoganGod
IcePack wrote:Symmetry wrote:Icepack, you're kinda pulling a Kelly-Anne Conway routine, right?
And what is that exactly?
Please to refrain from quoting the challenged special few that don't play the game and exist only to loop conversations.
Arama86n wrote:Welcome to the real world Neo.
I'm not saying I like it. I am however saying that this is a common practice for most provided services today.
It is in the interest of the businesses to force the consumer to remember to cancel a service, instead of having to woo the consumer in an attempt to secure repeat business (like it should be done, in a perfect world).
It's annoying, but has become a part of life.
On a related topic, if anyone reading this knows the above "all too well", and has lost track of the services they are being charged for, my advice is to cancel your card and start from scratch. Sure, not having access to your netflix account for four minutes will be frustrating, but chances are you are going to save yourself money by unknowingly cancelling some service you don't even use and have forgotten about
Allah Akbar, hippie skrillex is spitting truth today. I cancel my card on a regular basis.
Re: Be Aware C C automatically will bill you
Posted: Mon Mar 27, 2017 7:45 pm
by ronsizzle
what nobody is saying is this:
sirius xm tells you that it is a renewing service. as does netflix, and every other app i have ever bought. cc does not tell you that. they used to, when it was ran in the correct way and thriving with zero lag. things have changed. this is my last post in this thread.
Re: Be Aware C C automatically will bill you
Posted: Tue Mar 28, 2017 1:16 am
by Metsfanmax
ronc8649 wrote:what nobody is saying is this:
sirius xm tells you that it is a renewing service. as does netflix, and every other app i have ever bought. cc does not tell you that. they used to, when it was ran in the correct way and thriving with zero lag. things have changed. this is my last post in this thread.
The reason nobody is saying this is:
Re: Be Aware C C automatically will bill you
Posted: Tue Mar 28, 2017 6:04 am
by 2dimes
Read the terms? Ain't nobody got time for dat!
Re: Be Aware C C automatically will bill you
Posted: Tue Mar 28, 2017 11:46 am
by King_Herpes
Metsfanmax wrote:ronc8649 wrote:what nobody is saying is this:
sirius xm tells you that it is a renewing service. as does netflix, and every other app i have ever bought. cc does not tell you that. they used to, when it was ran in the correct way and thriving with zero lag. things have changed. this is my last post in this thread.
The reason nobody is saying this is:
You know this could serve as Confedrate's banner and it'd save us all a lot of time.
- Trish the Dish xoxo
Re: Be Aware C C automatically will bill you
Posted: Tue Mar 28, 2017 12:27 pm
by BGtheBrain
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Re: Be Aware C C automatically will bill you
Posted: Tue Mar 28, 2017 6:33 pm
by Symmetry
It's not really a matter of what is legal or illegal though. I don't think anyone has argued that CC is breaking a law, so that line seems to be a dodge- a strawman argument.
Re: Be Aware C C automatically will bill you
Posted: Wed Mar 29, 2017 4:05 am
by BrutalBob
Metsfanmax wrote:The reason nobody is saying this is:
BigWham pointed me to the same thing. The section you highlight is at the 10,000 word mark.
This is something that should and could be indicated at the initial sign up. No question. Its decptive
Re: Be Aware C C automatically will bill you
Posted: Wed Mar 29, 2017 10:58 am
by Metsfanmax
BrutalBob wrote:Metsfanmax wrote:The reason nobody is saying this is:
BigWham pointed me to the same thing. The section you highlight is at the 10,000 word mark.
Ok, but if you click the "Terms" link like I showed, it actually goes directly to that section, so it's right there on the screen, you don't have to scroll for it.
This is something that should and could be indicated at the initial sign up. No question. Its decptive
Perhaps. I don't have a strong opinion on that. I wouldn't have a problem with the site making that even more clear, but I still think people would complain either way. My point wasn't that we're doing the best job we possibly can here, just refuting ronc's claim that we literally don't say this anywhere.
Re: Be Aware C C automatically will bill you
Posted: Wed Mar 29, 2017 11:28 am
by King_Herpes
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Re: Be Aware C C automatically will bill you
Posted: Wed Mar 29, 2017 8:19 pm
by ronsizzle
ronc8649 wrote:this is my last post in this thread.
Re: Be Aware C C automatically will bill you
Posted: Wed Mar 29, 2017 9:16 pm
by Dukasaur
ronc8649 wrote:ronc8649 wrote:this is my last post in this thread.
mine too...
Re: Be Aware C C automatically will bill you
Posted: Tue May 23, 2017 11:40 pm
by Greatwhite
Some good thoughts on both sides, my original point stands, I have been here since the 1st year, you can say 'Everybody does it so it must be O K' . 9 years in a row, I got a notice, I then went and paid because I thought it was worth it, the point being it was my choice, when it becomes 'automatic' the defense is 'You didn't read the new fine print' I don't read newly created contract minutia, I play Risk, there was less than 200 members here when I joined. I am sure the management brown nosers will come out again now. I have made my point.
Re: Be Aware C C automatically will bill you
Posted: Wed May 24, 2017 12:15 am
by Scarus
Dukasaur wrote:
Absolutely nothing wrong with reminding people. However, even with a reminder there are people who will forget to renew, and that represents a lot of lost revenue. That is why 90% of Internet sites use a subscription system nowadays.
Well, it seems like that anyone that "forgets" to renew would find out about it soon enough when they no longer had premium privileges, and then they would simply renew. The truth seems closer to being that when people are not active enough here to notice when their subscription has lapsed, that we had better quickly bill them, or else lose any opportunity to get any more of their money whatsoever. The real tragic downside is that people might become totally inactive and then not notice that they are continued being billed for perhaps months, or even years. I'm pretty sure that there would be no refunds forthcoming. What's more, it seems like this policy is really specifically targeting these people. In other words, just because you left the site, doesn't mean that we shouldn't continue to use you as a resource to keep the ship afloat.
Rather than just gripe though, I have a suggestion. I always make sure that I am notified of continuing subscriptions, (after having been burned by other sites in the past), by simply paying with paypal, (which you can do here, and I always do when I can), and then immediately after the first payment, simply going into my paypal account and canceling the authorization for continuing payments. That way, sites that have this policy will bill paypal, be refused payment, and immediately send me a message of such and ask for me to renew.
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