Conquer Club

waauw wrote:

GoranZ wrote:

waauw wrote:Your story is nothing like mine. You might as well tell a story of any ordinary bully. You ignore the factor of 'motivation'.
Not to mention, you were talking about a little kid's behavior. The dreadful part of my story is the parent encouraging racist behavior.

Where do you think he learn that he should fight with other kids... I presume he learn that from his parents. After all, all children are born equal.

There you said it, "presume". It's not certain he learned that from his parents. Kids learn a lot of things from other people that aren't their parents. Nor, according to what you've told me so far, did the kid act against you purely because you have a different ethnicity.

I never understood why he acted as he did, never will. Also I cant know from where he learned to fight, but I'm sure it was his surroundings(Family, friends, neighborhood...)
I wasn't unfriendly towards him, so there was no reason for him to be unfriendly towards me.

waauw wrote:

GoranZ wrote:

waauw wrote:Well, I'm getting pissed at you because you are trying to stick up for the big damn racist that is oneyed. He keeps posting vids of coloured people in order to exert his hatred for their entire community.

Islam v Slovenskej Republike nechceme = I don't want any islamism in the Slovak Republic.
==> clearly hatred towards an entire minority

I see(and consider) oneyed as a patriot not as a racist. That's the difference.
Islam was never part of Slovakia or Slovakian culture, and he likes that to stay that way. As a contrast I believe he is more open towards Protestant or Orthodox Christians.

And the motivation for this overly patriotic behavior is intolerance.
Western Europe used to think and promote the same line of thought in the 19th century and the first part of the 20th century. It led to WWI, WWII and the genocide of minorities.

When it comes to carving the shapes of countries society, what western Europeans think that worked for them doesn't mean it will work for others like eastern Europeans. How Slovakian want to shape the society in their country is up to them, if they want Muslim free country then they should be left to have Muslim free country, that is the most democratic thing to do. As far as I know they didn't tutor Western Europe how to behave with Muslim immigrants, they deserve the same.

mrswdk wrote:On another note, this bit made me lol:

Where do you think he learn that he should fight with other kids... I presume he learn that from his parents

You went home to look for a knife so that you could go back and fight him with it. How were you any different to him?

I wasn't left with another option... Seems like "knifes" was the only language he understood

GoranZ wrote:

waauw wrote:And the motivation for this overly patriotic behavior is intolerance.
Western Europe used to think and promote the same line of thought in the 19th century and the first part of the 20th century. It led to WWI, WWII and the genocide of minorities.

When it comes to carving the shapes of countries society, what western Europeans think that worked for them doesn't mean it will work for others like eastern Europeans. How Slovakian want to shape the society in their country is up to them, if they want Muslim free country then they should be left to have Muslim free country, that is the most democratic thing to do. As far as I know they didn't tutor Western Europe how to behave with Muslim immigrants, they deserve the same.

That's fine, they do to their country whatever they like as long as it doesn't affect other nations. However if you post something on CC, then you should expect other peoples opinions.

waauw wrote:

GoranZ wrote:

waauw wrote:And the motivation for this overly patriotic behavior is intolerance.
Western Europe used to think and promote the same line of thought in the 19th century and the first part of the 20th century. It led to WWI, WWII and the genocide of minorities.

When it comes to carving the shapes of countries society, what western Europeans think that worked for them doesn't mean it will work for others like eastern Europeans. How Slovakian want to shape the society in their country is up to them, if they want Muslim free country then they should be left to have Muslim free country, that is the most democratic thing to do. As far as I know they didn't tutor Western Europe how to behave with Muslim immigrants, they deserve the same.

That's fine, they do to their country whatever they like as long as it doesn't affect other nations. However if you post something on CC, then you should expect other peoples opinions.

true... and Europe should be mixture of all opinions and desires
Kinda hard to balance, but it is achievable... as long as you dont mix Russia in the soup. In that case you will get White Europe

GoranZ wrote:as long as you dont mix Russia in the soup. In that case you will get White Europe

I must admit GoranZ made me laugh.

Also, I see two people here accepting that they will always disagree, but can disagree in peace. If only the rest of the world would disagree like waauw and GoranZ, it'd be a lot less violent.

**Disclaimer: This counts only for the past few messages. Please don't bring up other threads in which any of the speakers have been naive, ignorant, shallow or biased. This is a step in the right direction and we should appreciate it likewise!

GoranZ wrote:The problem with Islamic migrants is that they show resilience towards European culture or values, and they try to shape Europe towards the values of the country they originate from.

Man, did you ignore every single thing I wrote in the post or two preceding that? Now you're just putting your fingers in your ears and going 'la la la'.

JBlombier wrote:

GoranZ wrote:as long as you dont mix Russia in the soup. In that case you will get White Europe

I must admit GoranZ made me laugh.

Ty... Wont happen but still

Speaking of the "end of Europe" I always wondered ... is there a sign.

Like "You are now entering Asia ... have a nice day ... are your headlights on?"

good one made me smirk really good!

When merely picking the extremists in a society every part of the world can seem like hell on earth. I can make the same type of picture collage showing China's dark side. How about I show photos of chinese slums, the poor labour conditions in certain factories, the poisoned rivers, brutal oppression of the Uyghurs, the huge censorship network, etc.

waauw wrote:When merely picking the extremists in a society every part of the world can seem like hell on earth. I can make the same type of picture collage showing China's dark side. How about I show photos of chinese slums, the poor labour conditions in certain factories, the poisoned rivers, brutal oppression of the Uyghurs, the huge censorship network, etc.

Those were made on Photoshop by the CIA, everyone knows that.

mrswdk wrote:

waauw wrote:When merely picking the extremists in a society every part of the world can seem like hell on earth. I can make the same type of picture collage showing China's dark side. How about I show photos of chinese slums, the poor labour conditions in certain factories, the poisoned rivers, brutal oppression of the Uyghurs, the huge censorship network, etc.

Those were made on Photoshop by the CIA, everyone knows that.

Well don't remember ever seeing those pics in the newspapers over here, though it is suspicious they would all be in english.

Isn't the UK in Western Europe?

In any case, people all over the world go to protests carrying English-language signs.

waauw wrote:When merely picking the extremists in a society every part of the world can seem like hell on earth. I can make the same type of picture collage showing China's dark side. How about I show photos of chinese slums, the poor labour conditions in certain factories, the poisoned rivers, brutal oppression of the Uyghurs, the huge censorship network, etc.

You are missing the point... China is drastically changing, until few years ago their only concern was cheep production, now it is infrastructure, probably very soon they will turn their attention to other issues if they haven't started yet. China as it is, is slowly fixing good part of the problems it has. There will still be issues in the next decade or two but after that they will have less problems then Europe.
On the other hand Europe doesn't have adequate mechanism for solving problems. Look at Greece for example, it was at the brink of financial collapse in 2007, and nothing has ever changed in the next 8 years, and god knows for how long. Nothing really change except the fact that everyone got used to the fact that Greece is in deep shit, so no one can be surprised what ever happen. And when we are at the subjects at Islam, Muslims in Europe will continue to demand for rights they dont deserve.
Generally what ever picture you will throw about China can apply only for today, and not for tomorrow. She can throw the same pictures all over again and they will be still valid

mrswdk wrote:Isn't the UK in Western Europe?

In any case, people all over the world go to protests carrying English-language signs.

The british might be in Western Europe, but everybody considers them different from the rest.
And I guess you're right about the english signs.

GoranZ wrote:

waauw wrote:When merely picking the extremists in a society every part of the world can seem like hell on earth. I can make the same type of picture collage showing China's dark side. How about I show photos of chinese slums, the poor labour conditions in certain factories, the poisoned rivers, brutal oppression of the Uyghurs, the huge censorship network, etc.

You are missing the point... China is drastically changing, until few years ago their only concern was cheep production, now it is infrastructure, probably very soon they will turn their attention to other issues if they haven't started yet. China as it is, is slowly fixing good part of the problems it has. There will still be issues in the next decade or two but after that they will have less problems then Europe.
On the other hand Europe doesn't have adequate mechanism for solving problems. Look at Greece for example, it was at the brink of financial collapse in 2007, and nothing has ever changed in the next 8 years, and god knows for how long. Nothing really change except the fact that everyone got used to the fact that Greece is in deep shit, so no one can be surprised what ever happen. And when we are at the subjects at Islam, Muslims in Europe will continue to demand for rights they dont deserve.
Generally what ever picture you will throw about China can apply only for today, and not for tomorrow. She can throw the same pictures all over again and they will be still valid

I agree about the Greece issue within europe, that's just a time bomb waiting. Let's hope it can get mitigated, because if that one implodes it could be a Lehman Brothers x10, bringing down almost the entire financial sector on a global scale.
As for muslims, that problem is being dealt with quite swiftly. The Syria fighters are almost all ending up in jail, some of them for decades and there has been an enormous increase in deportations(thankfully the socialists are gone in Belgium). In not a single country in Western Europe has islamism even managed to reach 10%.

waauw wrote:In not a single country in Western Europe has islamism even managed to reach 10%.

You mean, like, Belgian waffles are still at least 90% Christian?

mrswdk wrote:

waauw wrote:In not a single country in Western Europe has islamism even managed to reach 10%.

You mean, like, Belgian waffles are still at least 90% Christian?

I don't know, I haven't asked them.

waauw wrote:

mrswdk wrote:

waauw wrote:In not a single country in Western Europe has islamism even managed to reach 10%.

You mean, like, Belgian waffles are still at least 90% Christian?

I don't know, I haven't asked them.

Because you can't speak enough Arabic.

mrswdk wrote:

waauw wrote:

mrswdk wrote:

waauw wrote:In not a single country in Western Europe has islamism even managed to reach 10%.

You mean, like, Belgian waffles are still at least 90% Christian?

I don't know, I haven't asked them.

Because you can't speak enough Arabic.

I don't know what muslims in China are like, but the majority of the ones over here don't even speak arab.

mrswdk wrote:You mean, like, Belgian waffles are still at least 90% Christian?

Belgian waffles change their religion twice a week, where do you think the verb waffle comes from?

waauw wrote:

mrswdk wrote:

waauw wrote:

mrswdk wrote:

waauw wrote:In not a single country in Western Europe has islamism even managed to reach 10%.

You mean, like, Belgian waffles are still at least 90% Christian?

I don't know, I haven't asked them.

Because you can't speak enough Arabic.

I don't know what muslims in China are like, but the majority of the ones over here don't even speak arab.

Well that's just lazy.

oh men, what a tons of liberal bullshits of pseudohumanism. the last muslim imigration is pure invasion. there are mainly young, strong men with mobile phones, tablets and well dressed.
it will takes no long time and all mainly western europeans will weak up. but it would be too late. and those outside europe, take care about your country if you have no idea how to help us.

Oneyed

Oneyed wrote:oh men, what a tons of liberal bullshits of pseudohumanism. the last muslim imigration is pure invasion. there are mainly young, strong men with mobile phones, tablets and well dressed.
it will takes no long time and all mainly western europeans will weak up. but it would be too late. and those outside europe, take care about your country if you have no idea how to help us.

Oneyed

The best form of defense is offense. Slovakia should invade Turkey without delay.

mrswdk wrote:

Oneyed wrote:oh men, what a tons of liberal bullshits of pseudohumanism. the last muslim imigration is pure invasion. there are mainly young, strong men with mobile phones, tablets and well dressed.
it will takes no long time and all mainly western europeans will weak up. but it would be too late. and those outside europe, take care about your country if you have no idea how to help us.

Oneyed

The best form of defense is offense. Slovakia should invade Turkey without delay.

I get the feeling that would not end well.