Conquer Club

mtamburini wrote:

virus90 wrote:why would you vote hotshot for that mtam? its a bit of saying the obvious (by hotshot), but its not like thats a bad thing in this case in my opinion. better get people on board who maybe arent.
wouldnt say hotshot is cleared cause of 1 post, but i surely wouldnt go for him as my first serious hunch as for now.

Then where would you like to go? He is thus far the most scummiest person in this game at this point in time.

Out of curiosity, what makes me the "most scummiest person in this game at this point in time"? Is it because I'm the only person in the game (everyone else still being in joke stage)?

words would be good.
like expressing what you mean, in detail other than "he is scummy"

tell me a story as to why you believe he is scum. make me believe.

Iron Butterfly wrote:

mtamburini wrote:

HotShot53 wrote:On a slightly more serious note, this will be an interesting game with almost everyone being vanilla rather than all power roles like a lot of games have been recently. Other than a cop getting lucky and finding scum before the scum find him (if there even is a cop), everything will be based on what people say/do, with no way to verify or prove anything. Good luck to whomever Storr decides to go after... lol.

After this comment I think you are the safest lynch thus far into the game.

Unless you are mafia and already know he is Town.

Explain your reasoning.

He has entered the game to talk about how the setup is interesting when no one really knows what the setup is which leads me to believe he is mafia and is trying to role hunt. He does not give any opinion on anyone in the game and tries to make the game serious making an effort to lead and steer town when he gives us no direction.

FPd a bit

mtamburini wrote:

Iron Butterfly wrote:

mtamburini wrote:

HotShot53 wrote:On a slightly more serious note, this will be an interesting game with almost everyone being vanilla rather than all power roles like a lot of games have been recently. Other than a cop getting lucky and finding scum before the scum find him (if there even is a cop), everything will be based on what people say/do, with no way to verify or prove anything. Good luck to whomever Storr decides to go after... lol.

After this comment I think you are the safest lynch thus far into the game.

Unless you are mafia and already know he is Town.

Explain your reasoning.

He has entered the game to talk about how the setup is interesting when no one really knows what the setup is which leads me to believe he is mafia and is trying to role hunt. He does not give any opinion on anyone in the game and tries to make the game serious making an effort to lead and steer town when he gives us no direction.

FPd a bit

Its a semi closed set up.... as in we semi know whats going on, as in at max we have a doc and cop. Likely we have only 1, or none. Hence, him having an "idea" of what the set up seems reasonable

You should know better storr that this guy is the best lynch two early defences of him makes me think he's more scum then I orginally thought before. It started as a safety play but now it's actually turning into a scum.

And I dont think Hess good enough player to meta it either

This is already starting to turn into a pretty thin case, but I expect it out of him by now so I don't see this as scummy. I think he's just chasing a false lead.

Metsfanmax wrote:This is already starting to turn into a pretty thin case, but I expect it out of him by now so I don't see this as scummy. I think he's just chasing a false lead.

Just because I can't fully explain myself as well as the rest of you should not discredit my opinions. And for everyone that is too much of a wimp to actually give a read on others instead of just lightly defending him that would be great.

Or lynch tamb. That's an option.

StorrZerg wrote:Or lynch tamb. That's an option.

You dont really believe that so talk to me when you start to give a shit.

StorrZerg wrote:Vote Mtamburini

Hard claim now that you think I'm scum or rescind your vote

Im not going to wait for storr for a response, so to continue what I think of the game so far. I put some pressure on hotshot and 3 people soft defend him at least one of the 3 between storr IB and mets are town. Which one I dont know and dont really care at the moment. I dont think there are 2 scum in the 3 of those people because in the instance where Hotshot is town I dont see a reason why scum would defend him they are taking away a lynch that way when they need to lynch 3 or 4 towns to win the game.

mtamburini wrote:

StorrZerg wrote:Vote Mtamburini

Hard claim now that you think I'm scum or rescind your vote

Is this just macho talk or do you really expect this?

mtamburini wrote:Im not going to wait for storr for a response, so to continue what I think of the game so far. I put some pressure on hotshot and 3 people soft defend him at least one of the 3 between storr IB and mets are town. Which one I dont know and dont really care at the moment. I dont think there are 2 scum in the 3 of those people because in the instance where Hotshot is town I dont see a reason why scum would defend him they are taking away a lynch that way when they need to lynch 3 or 4 towns to win the game.

You put no pressure except to say he would be the best lynch for no other reason then either you are Mafia or it is your gut feeling as a Town player.

If you are Town and HS is Town mafia would have no need to defend as they can just sit back and watch to see what happens.

You never answered my initial question on your reasoning for pressuring HS to begin with.

Iron Butterfly wrote:

mtamburini wrote:Im not going to wait for storr for a response, so to continue what I think of the game so far. I put some pressure on hotshot and 3 people soft defend him at least one of the 3 between storr IB and mets are town. Which one I dont know and dont really care at the moment. I dont think there are 2 scum in the 3 of those people because in the instance where Hotshot is town I dont see a reason why scum would defend him they are taking away a lynch that way when they need to lynch 3 or 4 towns to win the game.

You put no pressure except to say he would be the best lynch for no other reason then either you are Mafia or it is your gut feeling as a Town player.

If you are Town and HS is Town mafia would have no need to defend as they can just sit back and watch to see what happens.

You never answered my initial question on your reasoning for pressuring HS to begin with.

You call yourself a great player if you could read between the lines in his post you should see what is wrong with what he said if he is town, which leads me to believe he is not town.

Your counter arguement is fine if you believe the mafia are between the other 4 people who have not spoken up on this situation but if I understand you correctly you just think I'm scum out of everything that has happened so far.

Why is me calling him the safest lynch not pressure? His responses since then have been him trying to figure out how I know he is scum instead of trying to portray town.

StorrZerg wrote:

mtamburini wrote:

Iron Butterfly wrote:

mtamburini wrote:

HotShot53 wrote:On a slightly more serious note, this will be an interesting game with almost everyone being vanilla rather than all power roles like a lot of games have been recently. Other than a cop getting lucky and finding scum before the scum find him (if there even is a cop), everything will be based on what people say/do, with no way to verify or prove anything. Good luck to whomever Storr decides to go after... lol.

After this comment I think you are the safest lynch thus far into the game.

Unless you are mafia and already know he is Town.

Explain your reasoning.

He has entered the game to talk about how the setup is interesting when no one really knows what the setup is which leads me to believe he is mafia and is trying to role hunt. He does not give any opinion on anyone in the game and tries to make the game serious making an effort to lead and steer town when he gives us no direction.

FPd a bit

Its a semi closed set up.... as in we semi know whats going on, as in at max we have a doc and cop. Likely we have only 1, or none. Hence, him having an "idea" of what the set up seems reasonable

Exactly... it is stated by the mod what the possibilities are. I didn't ask for any comments from the doc and/or cop, and I wouldn't expect them to comment in any way outing themselves. If I were one... I would purposely post to mislead scum into thinking I was VT. The only reason for a doc/cop to come out is if they are about to be lynched otherwise, or if the cop got results, otherwise I would expect them to pretend to be VT just like everyone else.

What opinion was I suppose to have on anyone at that point? No-one had made a serious post or anything weird, there was nothing to make an opinion based on or "steer town" towards... I just thought this setup was very different than the last few games and will have to be played a lot differently, so I made a comment.

I have never ever said I am a great player. I have never said you are scum. Put words in my mouth again to make a point I will vote you.

Good players know that believing something does not make it true.

Now if you wish to put forward a logical argument about what exactly you "read between the lines" and what that means in regards to hotshot I and the rest of us are all ears.

I have no idea what you are thinking but you are assuming we see exactly as you.

You ever read the fable about the 6 blind men and the elephant? If not google it.

My last post directed to Mtam.

Iron Butterfly wrote:My last post directed to Mtam.

You gonna try and read anyone else this game or just keep asking me te same question until I answer it?

Vote count

virus90 (1): Iron Butterfly
PCM (1): charm
Storrzerg (1): virus90
Mtamburini (1): Storrzerg

Players not voting: HotShot53, crasp, Metsfanmax, legionnare, Mtamburini.

NEW RULE: everyone MUST have his/her voice placed at the end of every Day. If not you will be modkilled.

mtamburini wrote:

Iron Butterfly wrote:My last post directed to Mtam.

You gonna try and read anyone else this game or just keep asking me te same question until I answer it?

Why not just answer the question instead of avoiding doing so?

mtamburini wrote:

StorrZerg wrote:Vote Mtamburini

Hard claim now that you think I'm scum or rescind your vote

yeah thats not how this game works. Sure maybe i don't really wanna vote you right now, but you are goading me into it.

so my stance on you tamb. last game you got all whining and complaining about how we didnt meet eye to eye regarding someone else in game, you bitched and complained.

As it stands right now, you know i'm not looking for a claim, you know i'm looking to pressure.

If i have to keep lynching you, when you are trying to strong arm your opinion with out reason/ being able to explain your opinion so be it. eventually you will learn.



however

mtamburini wrote:Im not going to wait for storr for a response, so to continue what I think of the game so far. I put some pressure on hotshot and 3 people soft defend him at least one of the 3 between storr IB and mets are town. Which one I dont know and dont really care at the moment. I dont think there are 2 scum in the 3 of those people because in the instance where Hotshot is town I dont see a reason why scum would defend him they are taking away a lynch that way when they need to lynch 3 or 4 towns to win the game.

I did like the drive behind this to keep conversation going.

And some of your reasoning

mtamburini wrote:You should know better storr that this guy is the best lynch two early defences of him makes me think he's more scum then I orginally thought before. It started as a safety play but now it's actually turning into a scum.

SO i will relook hothost, but for the love of god you still have a large portion of the case which is " read between the lines"

I have looked above the line, below the line and through the line and I cant see anything scummy about hotshots post.