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Re: double ballenus winter 2011 cup - FULL - reserve needed

Posted: Sun Oct 16, 2011 5:31 am
by josko.ri
ballenus wrote:Ok, I'll insiert later on some examples to clarify the different situations.
In all cases we take account:
1. number of points (2 points = battle of 5 games won).
2. number of games won (red part by josko).

This might however not be sufficient. Then at the end of phase 1, we will do again another table of standing taking into acount only the batles with the teams that have the same number of points and game won: usually it will simply be the result of the battle between the two teams with the same number of points and game won. In exceptional cases we might have perfect draw between 3 teams and then we will establish a ranking between them based only on the games between these three teams.

I hope this clarifies.

ok, I think I get it now. blue part is something like #3 in importance scale if tie breaker arises (behind red part, which is #2).

Re: double ballenus winter 2011 cup - FULL - reserve needed

Posted: Sun Oct 16, 2011 8:50 am
by ballenus
exactly
#4 in importance will be games won on classic maps (taking account of the 4 games)
#5 in imporantce will be games won on Poison Rome
etc.

I hope that with all this we won't need a tie break!

Re: double ballenus winter 2011 cup - FULL - reserve needed

Posted: Mon Oct 17, 2011 6:16 pm
by donination
In Group E
theshiningsun and donination have defeated Davdanilo and Sekretar
3-2.

I think this is all that is needed.

Re: double ballenus winter 2011 cup - FULL - reserve needed

Posted: Tue Oct 18, 2011 1:42 pm
by ballenus
yep thxs. I'll update the table as soon I get a bit more results.

Re: double ballenus winter 2011 cup - FULL - reserve needed

Posted: Sun Oct 23, 2011 3:14 am
by josko.ri
denthefrog and josko.ri won 5-0

Re: double ballenus winter 2011 cup - FULL - reserve needed

Posted: Sun Oct 23, 2011 4:24 pm
by ballenus
I saw that.

Re: double ballenus winter 2011 cup - FULL - reserve needed

Posted: Sun Oct 30, 2011 9:07 am
by Leehar
me and maas win 3-2

Re: double ballenus winter 2011 cup - FULL - reserve needed

Posted: Fri Nov 04, 2011 1:15 pm
by Rodion
Rodion and drunkmonkey win week 1 with a 5-0 score.

Re: double ballenus winter 2011 cup - FULL - reserve needed

Posted: Sat Nov 05, 2011 3:02 pm
by Leehar
Another advancement. 3-0 so far tho it could be as close as 3-2 at the end
Pity about the yellow card.

Anyway, for clarification, how many teams advance from phase 2?
8 or just the 4 winners?

Re: double ballenus winter 2011 cup - FULL - reserve needed

Posted: Sun Nov 06, 2011 2:33 am
by Bruceswar
Leehar wrote:Another advancement. 3-0 so far tho it could be as close as 3-2 at the end
Pity about the yellow card.

Anyway, for clarification, how many teams advance from phase 2?
8 or just the 4 winners?



12 move on. 2 from each group.

Re: double ballenus winter 2011 cup - FULL - reserve needed

Posted: Sun Nov 06, 2011 8:11 am
by ballenus
bruces is right. You can go the thread and click on the "overview of the different phases" to understand how it works.

Re: double ballenus winter 2011 cup - FULL - reserve needed

Posted: Mon Nov 07, 2011 8:23 am
by Leehar
Bruceswar wrote:
Leehar wrote:Another advancement. 3-0 so far tho it could be as close as 3-2 at the end
Pity about the yellow card.

Anyway, for clarification, how many teams advance from phase 2?
8 or just the 4 winners?



12 move on. 2 from each group.

[spoiler=phase 2]In phase 2, the 16 remaining teams will be placed in different groups depending on their score in the first phase : the 16 teams will be placed in order 1 to 16, according to the number of games won (and then according to registration order).
In group 1, we will have number 1,8,9
In group 2, we will have number 2,7,10
In group 3, we will have number 3,6,11
In group 4, we will have number 4,5,12
Within each group, each team will meet each other on 10 maps:
1. Classic escalating, sun
2. Poison Rome, no card, fog
3. Drugs war, no card, fog
4. Berlin 1961, no card, sun
5. Arms race !, escalating, fog
6. Holy roman empire, no card, sun
7. Egypt Nubia, no card, sun
8. Battle for Irak, escalating, fog
9. France, no card, sun
10. 8 thoughts, escalating, fog
After the 10 games “battle”, the winner will be credited with 2 points and the loser with 0 point. In case of draw (5-5), there will be one point for each team. Each team will play 20 games in this second phase. Invitation for 5 games will be sent every 10 days, or even every two weeks. Idea is to maintain the average game load at or below 5 active games at a time during phase 2 too. Phase 2 might well end in January or February 2012.
Same rules than for phase 1 will apply to determine who is first within a given group : number of points, then number of games won and then more complex rules with, as necessary, setting up of tie braker game.[/spoiler]

Doesn't explain it to me. Indeed it seems to be quite confusing with the 16 and 12 references. But thats only going to phase 2, I'm asking about end of phase 2 as well (winners of each group?)

But yes, the overview does seem to explain it better, so sorry about that

Re: double ballenus winter 2011 cup - FULL - reserve needed

Posted: Mon Nov 07, 2011 2:59 pm
by ballenus
sorry I didn't understand this "from" phase 2. Indeed, in phase 2 there will be 3 teams in each group and only one will advance to the semi-final.

Re: double ballenus winter 2011 cup - FULL - reserve needed

Posted: Sat Nov 12, 2011 12:55 pm
by ballenus
Table of standing updated (except for group E waiting for game to finish). If I'm correct, with the exception of Group A, everything is still open and all teams can still be in or out. Have nice "day 3" games.

Re: double ballenus winter 2011 cup - FULL - reserve needed

Posted: Wed Nov 16, 2011 12:24 pm
by Rodion
Rodion and drunkmonkey win week 2 with a 3-2 score.

Re: double ballenus winter 2011 cup - FULL - reserve needed

Posted: Fri Nov 18, 2011 7:13 pm
by Rodion
Rodion and drunkmonkey win week 3 with a 5-0 score.

We completed phase 1 with 6 points, 13 wins and 2 losses.

Re: double ballenus winter 2011 cup - FULL - reserve needed

Posted: Sat Nov 19, 2011 5:08 am
by ballenus
Ok I updated the table of standing. if i'm correct situation is as follows:
- Group A : ballenus steve066 & Nokelberry triple 6 move to next phase.
- Group B : eveything is still possible.
- Group C : two seats for three teams killboy108 briggs1209, mkcummins dwilhelmi, denthefrog josko.ri
- Group D : danryan pander88uk move. Lisbon101 twopoint or NanoTheGreat Deli move (one seat for two teams).
- Group E : Rodion drunkmonkey and theshiningsun donination move.
- Group F : two seats for three teams dragon dor pascalleke / King_Herpes demonfork/ Bruceswar stbtgal.

Re: double ballenus winter 2011 cup - FULL - reserve needed

Posted: Sat Nov 19, 2011 2:12 pm
by ballenus
corrigendum in group E: trapyoung jpeter15 have still a chance if they win 4-1 (2-1 right now)

Re: double ballenus winter 2011 cup - FULL - reserve needed

Posted: Wed Nov 23, 2011 2:20 pm
by Leehar
Leehar and Maasman advance with 6 points and another 3-2 win.

Re: double ballenus winter 2011 cup - FULL - reserve needed

Posted: Wed Nov 23, 2011 3:45 pm
by ballenus
I updated the table of standing. if i'm correct situation is as follows now:
- Group A : ballenus steve066 & Nokelberry triple 6 move to next phase.
- Group B : Leehar maasman move to next phase with winner of game Game 10057893 (probably sherkaner & QoH)
- Group C : two seats for three teams killboy108 briggs1209, mkcummins dwilhelmi, denthefrog josko.ri
- Group D : danryan pander88uk move. Lisbon101 twopoint or NanoTheGreat Deli move (one seat for two teams).
- Group E : Rodion drunkmonkey and theshiningsun donination move.
- Group F : two seats for three teams dragon dor pascalleke / King_Herpes demonfork/ Bruceswar stbtgal.

I guess that by Friday almost everything will be decided.

Re: double ballenus winter 2011 cup - FULL - reserve needed

Posted: Thu Nov 24, 2011 3:16 pm
by ballenus
Postby ballenus on Wed Nov 23, 2011 8:45 pm
I"ll update the table of standing soon. I think all is settled now:
- Group A : ballenus steve066 & Nokelberry triple 6 move to next phase.
- Group B : Leehar maasman move to next phase with sherkaner & QoH
- Group C : denthefrog josko.ri move for sure and 95% for killboy108 briggs1209: it seems they're winning their last game which means they will have exactly the same number of points and wins than mkcummins dwilhelmi. As they won against mkcummins dwilhelmi they move on.
- Group D : danryan pander88uk and NanoTheGreat Deli move.
- Group E : Rodion drunkmonkey and theshiningsun donination move.
- Group F : dragon dor pascalleke / King_Herpes demonfork move.

We have to wait for all games to finish to establish the final table of standing and groups for phase 2.

I guess that by Friday almost everything will be decided.

Re: double ballenus winter 2011 cup - FULL - reserve needed

Posted: Sun Nov 27, 2011 5:30 pm
by Leehar
I assume we have shiningsun and donination because we were already in the same group as Q and sherk? (ie otherwise they'd be lowest seeds)

Re: double ballenus winter 2011 cup - FULL - reserve needed

Posted: Sun Nov 27, 2011 5:34 pm
by Rodion
Leehar wrote:I assume we have shiningsun and donination because we were already in the same group as Q and sherk? (ie otherwise they'd be lowest seeds)


You should probably not join games until you get this sorted out.

Re: double ballenus winter 2011 cup - FULL - reserve needed

Posted: Mon Nov 28, 2011 7:32 am
by ballenus
that was a bug, thanks for spotting - I corrected it.

Re: double ballenus winter 2011 cup - FULL -

Posted: Tue Dec 20, 2011 2:01 pm
by NanoTheGreat
Theres a problem with Group 3 scores. Nano/Deli only played 3 games against Killboy/Briggs. You have it down as a tie 2-2 we won that 2-1.