[GP] [Rules] Eliminate Deferred Troops

qeee1 · Post by **qeee1** » Tue Jul 25, 2006 3:13 pm

Or possibly, it's a bad idea?

Chadmw · Post by **Chadmw** » Tue Jul 25, 2006 3:23 pm

qeee1 wrote:Or possibly, it's a bad idea?

See I don't believe that and obviously by reading this forum a lot of members agree with me.

How is getting rid of a player who holds up games on purpose so he can get double armies be a bad idea.

reverend_kyle · Post by **reverend_kyle** » Tue Jul 25, 2006 5:55 pm

This is supposed to be a casual site.. I went camping for 1 day.. No internet and missed a turn.. was it on purpose no. I still deserved my armies and I got them.. If i accidentally miss a turn later on I dont want to worry abot being booted.

Ishiro · Post by **Ishiro** » Wed Jul 26, 2006 9:40 am

AndyDufresne wrote:Lack's already stated that this feature will not be removed. It was suggested, and rejected. See so in the Suggestions Box.

--Andy

Right, and I understand that the request to remove making up for missed turns was rejected. But what about allowing the game creator to decide if missed turns should be recouped? I'd consider that a different suggestion, but I suspect if I made a new topic you'd just say it was already rejected despite the difference.

strike wolf · Post by **strike wolf** » Wed Jul 26, 2006 9:43 am

I wouldn't make it 3 turns throughout the whole game I would make it like 3 turns out of so many rounds. In the games that go on for ever you're bound to miss 3 eventually if you try to make all your turns.

AndyDufresne · Post by **AndyDufresne** » Wed Jul 26, 2006 10:38 am

Ishiro, elaborate more, perhaps in pm, and we can see if it's stating the same old thing again.

--Andy

Red Army · Post by **Red Army** » Wed Jul 26, 2006 1:29 pm

How about we impliment a button "Skip turn".

I don't mind people doing this but it does get annoying when they kill the pace.

AndyDufresne · Post by **AndyDufresne** » Wed Jul 26, 2006 1:31 pm

A 'Skip Turn' Button is currently 'Pending' in the Suggestions Box.

--Andy

Phobia · Post by **Phobia** » Wed Jul 26, 2006 1:55 pm

just think how annoying it would be if you acciendently click it :lol:

AndyDufresne · Post by **AndyDufresne** » Wed Jul 26, 2006 1:56 pm

Great point...we've all seen how people were upset after hitting end attack before they were finished...but imagine skipping a whole turn? Trouble, trouble...hehe

--Andy

Ishiro · Post by **Ishiro** » Wed Jul 26, 2006 1:58 pm

With Andy's blessing I'm starting up a new request.

Missed Turns: Recouped, Lost -- Option

Previously it was asked, and rejected, to remove the missed turn multiplier. Currently, the system works like this:
You miss a turn. On your next turn, if you take it, the game calculates the number of armies due to you now (standard formula and game specific rules) then multiplies by a number of turns. 1 if you never missed a turn, 2 or 3 if you have missed 1 or 2 turns. If you are due 3 armies and have missed 1 turn, you get 3 * 2 = 6 armies for your turn. If you are due 3 armies and have missed 2 turns, you get 3 * 3 = 9 armies for your turn.

Some people like it for various strategic reasons or simply because they miss a turn now and then and don't want to totally lose the turn.

What I suggest is the addition of an option at game creation where the creator can choose if missed turns will be handled as they currently are (Recouped) or if they are Lost completely. Under the "Lost" setting, the missed turn multiplier would not be applied, so that if you are due 3 armies and have missed 1 turn, you get 3 armies. If you are due 3 armies and have missed 2 turns, you get 3 armies.

OwlLawyer · Post by **OwlLawyer** » Wed Jul 26, 2006 1:58 pm

If it was a toggle box that worked so that if you checked it, it would skip your turn when it came time for you to take the turn, then "clicking" it would not be the end of the world, just unclick it before your turn.

Phobia · Post by **Phobia** » Wed Jul 26, 2006 2:00 pm

i was thinking only a small minority would use it, so it would be good to have a confirmation pop up afteryou click it, this will ensure no one will click it acciendently

alster · Post by **alster** » Wed Jul 26, 2006 2:02 pm

That was actually a very good idea.

Phobia · Post by **Phobia** » Wed Jul 26, 2006 2:04 pm

lol alstergren straight into the topic

but i agree, it is good

AndyDufresne · Post by **AndyDufresne** » Wed Jul 26, 2006 2:42 pm

Conquer Club is a pop-up free site. And Lack wants to keep it that way.

--Andy

sully800 · Post by **sully800** » Wed Jul 26, 2006 3:28 pm

It's a decent idea but I think we are beginning to run into too many choices.

You can play with 3, 4, 5, or 6 people.
Any of 22 (and growing) maps)..
Standard, Terminator, Doubles or Triples (and some people want to add old style doubles and triples)
Freestyle or Sequential
Escalating Flat or No cards
Chained Adjacent or Unlimited
Public or Private.

Thats currently 12,672 combinations of game setups. Won't we ever have enough??

I know that choice is good but not everything can be an option. If you constantly add more choices it just clutters the screen when you're trying to join a game, and could make it difficult for you to find a kind that you like.

Phobia · Post by **Phobia** » Thu Jul 27, 2006 12:55 pm

bump i want this to have a little more attention

AndyDufresne · Post by **AndyDufresne** » Thu Jul 27, 2006 12:58 pm

I'm leaning toward agreement with sully, the game creation screen is already quite detailed, what next should we pick our own colors from there also!

But seriously, it is an interesting idea, we'll have to see where this thread goes, both in user posting and on the list.

--Andy

Ishiro · Post by **Ishiro** » Thu Jul 27, 2006 1:37 pm

My opinion... you can never have too many options as long as the option doesn't break the game.

Perhaps we need "basic" games (quick setup, takes defaults on most items) and "advanced" games that have more options (longer setup where you can change all the settings).

Phobia · Post by **Phobia** » Thu Jul 27, 2006 1:43 pm

Ishiro wrote:My opinion... you can never have too many options as long as the option doesn't break the game.

Perhaps we need "basic" games (quick setup, takes defaults on most items) and "advanced" games that have more options (longer setup where you can change all the settings).

eek even more options

but i agree with the first sentence you made

gavin_sidhu · Post by **gavin_sidhu** » Fri Jul 28, 2006 3:03 am

AndyDufresne wrote:I'm leaning toward agreement with sully, the game creation screen is already quite detailed, what next should we pick our own colors from there also! But seriously, it is an interesting idea, we'll have to see where this thread goes, both in user posting and on the list.

--Andy

I think thats a great idea (as it does not change the game) is there a thread on that already, or can i create one.

I also agree with sully though (i know its a contradiction but meh)

lackattack · Post by **lackattack** » Fri Jul 28, 2006 1:49 pm

I'm with sully on keeping the options to a minimum.

Also, I want new players to get armies mutiplied, because in the anti-deadbeat emails we send to new receruits that don't play, we use that to convince them to come back and get hooked

A Mans Part · Post by **A Mans Part** » Fri Jul 28, 2006 2:24 pm

On the flip side, there should be a 'skip turn' option for those choosing to deadbeat for the multiplier (for whatever reason) so they can save us the time.

AndyDufresne · Post by **AndyDufresne** » Fri Jul 28, 2006 2:26 pm

Skip turn button, is pending I believe.

--Andy

[GP] [Rules] Eliminate Deferred Troops

Missed Turns: Recouped, Lost Option [Rejected]