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Re: Balance Not Included Come Back Mafia D2: An Unexpected D
Posted: Thu Mar 09, 2017 9:45 pm
by Fircoal
Ragian wrote:UnvoteAlright. As promised, here are my thoughts so we can move on. I don't hold a grudge against Legion for pressing this case. I would have done the same were I in his shoes. All the events add up (even if the most important points were added later on - tactics I actually applaud because they make it able to catch scum in a lie should scum attempt to claim in an attempt to suit the first bit of information), they're just wrong.
Should someone have skimmed, the following happened: I jailed Samlen. You probably know the rest. If you don't, you are probably not paying as close attention as you should
Town:
- Legion: Doh...
- Samlen: He has stuck his neck far out defending me. I don't think scum would've gone to those lengths doing that. He even made a counter case.
Towny vibe:
- Mets: Despite voting me (for which he obviously sucks), he's been cautious and inquisitive to an extent I feel seems townish. Did rush in the beginning, though, which seemed a bit off.
- Skoffin: Like Samlen has defended me and questioned others' reasons. She has not voted for anyone else, though (which would be an obvious thing to do if she really believes I'm not scum).
No idea:
- Tim: I never know...
- DJ: I just don't know...
Scummy vibe:
- Fircoal: The vote on Samlen doesn't make sense to me. He also seemed to have information or at least he pretended to have information that he hasn't shared. It doesn't ring town to me. (Perhaps it is a gut reaction to the one vote on Nag?)
- Dakky: Quick vote on me, then nothing, then retracted it, then put it back. His "new style" of playing covers the fact that he has realised that being the D1 lynch isn't a good way to play as scum. As town, you don't lose being lynched D1. As scum, you do. More often than not. Skoffin has pointed out loads of weird things in dakky's play.
- DDS: I've stated mine.
- Nag: Late vote despite advocating for my lynch throughout. Willing to risk it my role saying that there's suspicion and evidence (but there's only suspicion because of the evidence presented). Disregards what has been said about people's reactions to the wagon on me despite several things being pointed out as a result of Legion's case on me. Moreover, I can't shed the thought that as people started voting for DDS, he needed some more votes on me lest DDS should fall for the new rule. If Nag is scum, I'm positive that DDS is scum with him.
Vote NagNow, do as you find fitting. Town (and I) can still win this without me. I just implore you to look at those four tomorrow.
Peace!
Your logic makes no sense. You're basically saying the people that supported you are good and those that are against you are bad. But the thing is as Nag said town knows nothing and scum knows all. If you're good and scum know it wouldn't it be wise for them to defend you in order to get props later on.
Not only that but for a whole scum team to try to hop onto a townie and get them lynched is a pretty terrible strategy unless it's lylo. Which I'm pretty sure it's not. There's a difference between those trying to set up you to fail and townies who suspect you. Espeically in a game where it seems like leads have been hard to come by.
Re: Balance Not Included Come Back Mafia D2: An Unexpected D
Posted: Fri Mar 10, 2017 12:12 am
by strike wolf
Vote Count
DDS
Dakky
Nag (2)-Samlen, Ragian
Mets
Rage (5)-Legion,DDS, Nag, Mets, Dakky
Legion
Fircoal
Skoffin
Djfireside
Tim
Samlen (2)-Tim, Fircoal
With 11 alive it takes 6 to lynch. Ragian has lynched.
Day 2 End Scene
As everything drew to a close on the second day, one person had stepped forward with their suspicions and Ragian was brought up to question. "I'm innocent" he shouted out to them "I'm just the local jailer." His voice gave many pause as they argued back and forth but eventually time set in and everyone went back inside leaving Ragian behind. He tried to follow them but a wrong step and he tumbled down the side.
Hearing the commotion the rest of town went back to look at what had happened. They found Rage at the bottom with a broken crown and took this opportunity to search for an ID. With it in hand, they found out that he had been lying but no information could be found about any possible allies. Eventually town was forced to disperse again, fearful of the night but cautiously optimistic after a successful day.
Ragian-The Guy Who Rigged the Prom King Vote-Mafia Double Voter has been lynched.
It is now Night 2. You have 72 hours to send in your actions.
Re: Balance Not Included Come Back Mafia N2: Election Day
Posted: Fri Mar 10, 2017 1:34 am
by Ragian
Nuts. Go scum! GG all. No hard feelings, I hope.
Re: Balance Not Included Come Back Mafia N2: Election Day
Posted: Fri Mar 10, 2017 2:55 am
by madmitch
Re: Balance Not Included Come Back Mafia N2: Election Day
Posted: Fri Mar 10, 2017 3:05 am
by nagerous
Well that was unnecessarily painful!
Re: Balance Not Included Come Back Mafia N2: Election Day
Posted: Fri Mar 10, 2017 4:49 am
by Ragian
I aim to squeeze
Re: Balance Not Included Come Back Mafia N2: Election Day
Posted: Fri Mar 10, 2017 4:58 am
by strike wolf
Editted above. Was thinking about the other games night length and put that instead of 72 hours.
Re: Balance Not Included Come Back Mafia N2: Election Day
Posted: Fri Mar 10, 2017 6:22 am
by DirtyDishSoap
Ragian wrote:Nuts. Go scum! GG all. No hard feelings, I hope.
Feelings are so hard right now.
Re: Balance Not Included Come Back Mafia N2: Election Day
Posted: Fri Mar 10, 2017 8:03 am
by Ragian
That's not a feeling. Restrain yourself!
Re: Balance Not Included Come Back Mafia N2: Election Day
Posted: Sun Mar 12, 2017 5:03 pm
by strike wolf
I'm gonna be busy tonight so probably won't end night until tomorrow morning.
Re: Balance Not Included Come Back Mafia N2: Election Day
Posted: Mon Mar 13, 2017 11:16 pm
by strike wolf
N2
As the night went on, it seemed just as active than the former despite their dwindling numbers. In one section some scientists seemed to be getting a feel for what the chaos actually meant but by this point the town had shut its borders to non-players so it doesn't really matter what they think. Especially since they were wrong about the town keeping its borders open one more night.
Still with all the hustle going on, when morning came, town again found their numbers to be equal to the previous day.
Day 3 begins
With 10 alive, it takes 6 to lynch.
Re: Balance Not Included Come Back Mafia D3: Unnerving Targe
Posted: Tue Mar 14, 2017 12:39 am
by Fircoal
This is getting pretty funny.
Re: Balance Not Included Come Back Mafia D3: Unnerving Targe
Posted: Tue Mar 14, 2017 12:39 am
by Fircoal
Also so we know in the future, Legion who did you target?
Re: Balance Not Included Come Back Mafia D3: Unnerving Targe
Posted: Tue Mar 14, 2017 1:03 am
by DirtyDishSoap
Before Legion answers, I targeted him for the night and my action was changed to a role block.
Paraphrasing here to avoid a quote, but "Your action was interfered and is now changed to a block for the night and applies to the target."
Re: Balance Not Included Come Back Mafia D3: Unnerving Targe
Posted: Tue Mar 14, 2017 5:10 am
by Skoffin
So here we question whether town *again* stopped a mafia NK or if mafia even have a night kill.
Anyone that might have information on this or the previous may want to come forward, those individuals will have to weight up the risk themselves on whether they are better off revealing now or remaining in hiding.
For the record, I again could not be NK'd last night just like the night prior. No idea if that is relevant to last night or the previous night's no kill, but putting that out there anyway as I doubt it poses a risk to me to mention.
Soz not soz for yesterday, but Ragian was getting lynched regardless of anything I did or did not do and reactions to statements seemed more valuable.
My opinions:
* Nag was given an 'out' if Ragian were his partner and he did not take it, as such I am inclined to put Nag in town territory for the moment.
* Chu was open to lynching Ragian but during discussions he conveniently swapped to Sam for suspecting Nag due to Nag's stance on Ragian. Ultimately this meant that regardless of what chu said about Ragian's scumminess, he diverted from that lynch to put attention elsewhere. I'm putting him in possible scum territory.
* Legion put a lot of risk coming forward on Ragian. He is either town or incredibly ballsy scum that has secured trustworthyness. Made props if that turns out to be the case. Putting him in town territory.
* While Sam did argue against the Ragian case, I think there is merit in how he came to his decision. It would be quite risky for a scum Sam to have described his night actions as such to help Ragian and then continue to argue about the circumstantial evidence we had. I don't think scum Sam would risk himself and the whole team like that when the chances of it working successfully was limited. I'm putting him as town sided for now.
*As previously stated, dakky is on my scummy list and DDS is currently not on it.
Re: Balance Not Included Come Back Mafia D3: Unnerving Targe
Posted: Tue Mar 14, 2017 5:31 am
by nagerous
DirtyDishSoap wrote:Before Legion answers, I targeted him for the night and my action was changed to a role block.
Paraphrasing here to avoid a quote, but "Your action was interfered and is now changed to a block for the night and applies to the target."
Whoever did that to you I would say that is a hostile action
Re: Balance Not Included Come Back Mafia D3: Unnerving Targe
Posted: Tue Mar 14, 2017 6:30 am
by DirtyDishSoap
I knew either myself or Legion was going to be targeted. Didn't think there would be a role that could change mine into a role blocker.
Since I've role blocked Legion, and there was no night kill, again, I can only assume a couple of scenarios.
As Skoffin said, they might lack a night kill. Maybe it's a day kill power that can be activated after a certain amount of time has passed or some other unknown criteria has been met. No idea, never had a role like the one that hit me before, so it's not that far fetched to me to think of an exclusive day killer role exists.
Scenario 2 is that someone is role blocking the correct person consecutively, preventing a night kill.
Re: Balance Not Included Come Back Mafia D3: Unnerving Targe
Posted: Tue Mar 14, 2017 11:34 am
by Samlen
ok so now i have a hot potato waffle that might explode today. Or it might explode to whomever I pass it on to tonight or it might explode in 5 days. Things are getting all the more interesting! I'd have preferred hearing if legion came out with being roleblocked last night before you claimed it, dds, since if he hadn't then it could've been more cause for suspicion. But now legion can only confirm it and we won't get much more info than that.
Re: Balance Not Included Come Back Mafia D3: Unnerving Targe
Posted: Tue Mar 14, 2017 11:51 am
by TimWoodbury
i can confirm that at the very least mets was not targeted for a kill last night
Re: Balance Not Included Come Back Mafia D3: Unnerving Targe
Posted: Tue Mar 14, 2017 3:40 pm
by nagerous
Samlen wrote:ok so now i have a hot potato waffle that might explode today. Or it might explode to whomever I pass it on to tonight or it might explode in 5 days. Things are getting all the more interesting! I'd have preferred hearing if legion came out with being roleblocked last night before you claimed it, dds, since if he hadn't then it could've been more cause for suspicion. But now legion can only confirm it and we won't get much more info than that.
LOL can I ask if you did a night action last night?
Re: Balance Not Included Come Back Mafia D3: Unnerving Targe
Posted: Tue Mar 14, 2017 5:06 pm
by Skoffin
TimWoodbury wrote:i can confirm that at the very least mets was not targeted for a kill last night
ehhh? How do you know this? Usually when someone states this sort of info they are claiming a watcher, and we already have a watcher claim. Can you confirm you are not in fact a watcher?
Anyway, there are many possibilities on how the night is playing out.
* Mafia kill roleblocked
* Mafia targeted me when I was unkillable
* Doctor save
* Bulletproof was hit
* Jailer jailed
* Mafia have day kills and not night kills
etc
If anyone has knowledge on what happened, halp pls.
Anyway, looks like you're getting rekt Sam. Pls don't pass the potato to me.
Did you get a message on how you received it?
Re: Balance Not Included Come Back Mafia D3: Unnerving Targe
Posted: Tue Mar 14, 2017 5:13 pm
by TimWoodbury
Skoffin wrote:TimWoodbury wrote:i can confirm that at the very least mets was not targeted for a kill last night
ehhh? How do you know this? Usually when someone states this sort of info they are claiming a watcher, and we already have a watcher claim. Can you confirm you are not in fact a watcher?
Anyway, there are many possibilities on how the night is playing out.
* Mafia kill roleblocked
* Mafia targeted me when I was unkillable
* Doctor save
* Bulletproof was hit
* Jailer jailed
* Mafia have day kills and not night kills
etc
If anyone has knowledge on what happened, halp pls.
Anyway, looks like you're getting rekt Sam. Pls don't pass the potato to me.
Did you get a message on how you received it?
not exactly a watcher, i spose it could be a semi watcher... actuall role is Town Crier
Re: Balance Not Included Come Back Mafia D3: Unnerving Targe
Posted: Tue Mar 14, 2017 5:17 pm
by Skoffin
I only wanted you to confirm you're not a watcher 
I'm a bit confused on what your role does, pls explain ?
Re: Balance Not Included Come Back Mafia D3: Unnerving Targe
Posted: Tue Mar 14, 2017 5:30 pm
by TimWoodbury
dont want to put it all out there but it involves putting into the scene names
Re: Balance Not Included Come Back Mafia D3: Unnerving Targe
Posted: Tue Mar 14, 2017 5:33 pm
by Skoffin
Ahkay. I'm a bit confused as what you've said thus far doesn't match up with what I know of town criers. How do you know no one targeted mets for a kill?
