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- DiM
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Re: SteamWorks [03 Aug 2011] V26 pg.1&26 - XML done?
coords for hampshire on small: 367-368
coords for isle of whight on large: 479-536
i don't know enough on how overrides work so i'll let zimmah fix that part.
coords for isle of whight on large: 479-536
i don't know enough on how overrides work so i'll let zimmah fix that part.
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Re: SteamWorks [03 Aug 2011] V26 pg.1&26 - XML done?
DiM wrote:coords for hampshire on small: 367-368
coords for isle of whight on large: 479-536
i don't know enough on how overrides work so i'll let zimmah fix that part.
it's like Oliver Said, originally wrote All instead of Six, because i thought there were just 6, but since there's Seven, Six is not the same as All, i thought i fixed that, but i must have missed that one.
i'll post the updated version here after dinner and upload it too and i'll pm it to Oliver. do i have to repost it on the official treat too?
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<smally>417</smally>
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<largex>474</largex>
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<largey>536</largey>
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Re: SteamWorks [03 Aug 2011] V26 pg.1&26 - XML done?
DiMs maps <3
Keep it up, I'm sure this one will be another favorite of mine.
Keep it up, I'm sure this one will be another favorite of mine.

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Re: SteamWorks [03 Aug 2011] V26 pg.1&26 - XML done?
source: http://zimmah.webs.com/Steamworks%20v1.1d.xml
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<?xml version="1.0"?>
<map>
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<name>Dr. DiM's Evil Machine</name>
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<territory>Oxford</territory>
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Re: SteamWorks [03 Aug 2011] V26 pg.1&26 - XML done?
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Re: SteamWorks [03 Aug 2011] V26 pg.1&26 - XML done?
Patience is a virtue, my friend.
All good things comes to those who wait and don't worry the whole community waits with you.
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Re: SteamWorks [03 Aug 2011] V26 pg.1&26 - XML done?
Nola_Lifer wrote:Patience is a virtue, my friend.All good things comes to those who wait and don't worry the whole community waits with you.
a week has already passed since 3 lines of code were changed. 3 lines take 10 seconds to check. let's assume he really really checks them and double checks them. that's a whole minute. with posting here and stamping that's no more than 5 minutes. are 5 minutes of free time so hard to come by in a whole week? and this is after the map has been waiting for a xml check for a month
whatever.
btw, this map was done in 6 weeks. after those 6 weeks my job was done and the waiting began. since then 5 weeks have passed. so right now production time has almost doubled solely because of waiting time. probably a few more weeks until i get a xml stamp then 1 more month until this is stamped for beta and god knows how many more weeks before the files get uploaded and the map is available for play.
basically the production of a map is 20-30% map maker's work and 70-80% waiting time, bureaucracy and CA's work. that's not normal.
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Re: SteamWorks [03 Aug 2011] V26 pg.1&26 - XML done?
What industry do you work in? Adding 70% to basic coding time to cover preliminary investigation and subsequent integration and testing is not out of line.
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Re: SteamWorks [03 Aug 2011] V26 pg.1&26 - XML done?
ender516 wrote:What industry do you work in? Adding 70% to basic coding time to cover preliminary investigation and subsequent integration and testing is not out of line.
i work in hospitality industry where big waiting times for the client are a huge NO NO
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Re: SteamWorks [03 Aug 2011] V26 pg.1&26 - XML done?
DiM wrote:ender516 wrote:What industry do you work in? Adding 70% to basic coding time to cover preliminary investigation and subsequent integration and testing is not out of line.
i work in hospitality industry where big waiting times for the client are a huge NO NO
Ah, there is the disconnect. You think of yourself as a client of the Foundry, which delivers stamps to you. You might do better to see yourself as a part of the development process, where you help to deliver maps to the CC community.
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Re: SteamWorks [03 Aug 2011] V26 pg.1&26 - XML done?
ender516 wrote:DiM wrote:ender516 wrote:What industry do you work in? Adding 70% to basic coding time to cover preliminary investigation and subsequent integration and testing is not out of line.
i work in hospitality industry where big waiting times for the client are a huge NO NO
Ah, there is the disconnect. You think of yourself as a client of the Foundry, which delivers stamps to you. You might do better to see yourself as a part of the development process, where you help to deliver maps to the CC community.
The mills of the Foundry grind slowly, yet they grind exceeding small.
actually no. you got this completely wrong. i see myself as the hard working guy that gets 99% of the job done in 1% of the time and then the bosses make him wait 99% of the time for that last 1% of the work. this makes the customers (people that want to play the map) really unhappy.
so whenever i make a map i'm an unhappy worker and whenever i wait for a map made by someone else i'm an unhappy customer.
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Re: SteamWorks [03 Aug 2011] V26 pg.1&26 - XML done?
DiM wrote:actually no. you got this completely wrong. i see myself as the hard working guy that gets 99% of the job done in 1% of the time and then the bosses make him wait 99% of the time for that last 1% of the work. this makes the customers (people that want to play the map) really unhappy.
Actually, most of the customers don't seem to mind. There's enough new maps being offered regularly to satisfy the new-map-needs of most CC players. I don't see much people on the forums crying how they want more new maps faster.
I also believe the main reason why maps have to wait for beta-testing is to keep the number of maps in beta at any given time reasonably low... I'm not sure if I agree with the policy, but there it is.

Re: SteamWorks [03 Aug 2011] V26 pg.1&26 - XML done?
natty_dread wrote:DiM wrote:actually no. you got this completely wrong. i see myself as the hard working guy that gets 99% of the job done in 1% of the time and then the bosses make him wait 99% of the time for that last 1% of the work. this makes the customers (people that want to play the map) really unhappy.
Actually, most of the customers don't seem to mind. There's enough new maps being offered regularly to satisfy the new-map-needs of most CC players. I don't see much people on the forums crying how they want more new maps faster.
I also believe the main reason why maps have to wait for beta-testing is to keep the number of maps in beta at any given time reasonably low... I'm not sure if I agree with the policy, but there it is.
so you're saying if more people complain, hings wll be faster?
if so, i complain.
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Re: SteamWorks [03 Aug 2011] V26 pg.1&26 - XML done?
natty_dread wrote:DiM wrote:actually no. you got this completely wrong. i see myself as the hard working guy that gets 99% of the job done in 1% of the time and then the bosses make him wait 99% of the time for that last 1% of the work. this makes the customers (people that want to play the map) really unhappy.
Actually, most of the customers don't seem to mind. There's enough new maps being offered regularly to satisfy the new-map-needs of most CC players. I don't see much people on the forums crying how they want more new maps faster.
I also believe the main reason why maps have to wait for beta-testing is to keep the number of maps in beta at any given time reasonably low... I'm not sure if I agree with the policy, but there it is.
most of the customers don't even know the map foundry exists. heck, they don't even know the forum exists.
but among those that frequent the foundry there are plenty who don't like the stalling of maps.
haven't you ever followed the progress of a certain map and wanted it to be over soon and got frustrated over having to wait so long?
i know i have. and i've seen plenty more expressing their frustration over this.
as for having just a few maps in beta at any given time, i find this absolutely stupid. if 10 maps are ready for beta then release them all don't release just a few and force the others to wait.
some maps will have faulty gameplay and will stay longer in beta. if a batch of some maps are released at the same times then it means the next batch will have to wait a loooooong time before they're released to beta? this is total bullshit.
also i'm not sure why the xml checking and stamping takes so long because at the first beta game all the mistakes in the xml pop up immediately and they're fixed right away. and as was seen in the recently released maps, plenty of mistakes have passed the month long xml inspection. so...ummm...yeah....
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Re: SteamWorks [03 Aug 2011] V26 pg.1&26 - XML done?
We should kill that guy for being so lazy and slow!


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Re: SteamWorks [03 Aug 2011] V26 pg.1&26 - XML done?
EDIT: Aw, Oliver spoiled my fun 
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Re: SteamWorks [03 Aug 2011] V26 pg.1&26 - XML done?
Victor Sullivan wrote:EDIT: Aw, Oliver spoiled my fun
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Re: SteamWorks [03 Aug 2011] V26 pg.1&26 - XML done?
Hey DiM why are you so slow to respond? there have been 4 posts on your topic and you have not yet responded
grats on the stamp. now let's wait 3 more months for the Beta stamp
grats on the stamp. now let's wait 3 more months for the Beta stamp
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Re: SteamWorks [03 Aug 2011] V26 pg.1&26 - XML done?
Dim, let me say now that you have to wait for another couple of days....so please be patient, be patient! We're not an hospital and no one will die if a map sits for a couple of days (except you
). Use your free time to look at other threads and give some suggestions instead to look at this one with a clock. Time go slower if you keep track of it! 
Now you're going to be a bit annoying....stop now.
zimmah wrote:Hey DiM why are you so slow to respond?![]()
grats on the stamp. now let's wait 3 more months for the Beta stamp
Now you're going to be a bit annoying....stop now.
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Re: SteamWorks [03 Aug 2011] V26 pg.1&26 - XML done?
Last Call
The map has passed through rigorous gameplay and graphics examinations and all major concerns have been addressed. If you have any other concerns, please make your voice heard. If after a reasonable amount of time there has not been any objection or protest, the map will be stamped and submitted for the Beta period.
Please, post questions and concerns if any.
thenobodies80
The map has passed through rigorous gameplay and graphics examinations and all major concerns have been addressed. If you have any other concerns, please make your voice heard. If after a reasonable amount of time there has not been any objection or protest, the map will be stamped and submitted for the Beta period.
Please, post questions and concerns if any.
thenobodies80
Re: SteamWorks [03 Aug 2011] V26 pg.1&26 - XML done?
congrats for the stamp DiM...slowly slowly 

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Re: SteamWorks [03 Aug 2011] V26 pg.1&26 - XML done?
DiM is like the Little Engine That Could, except this one got frustrated and de-railed before reaching the top. But before you know it, you'll be saying, "I thought I could!" 
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Scaling back on my CC involvement...
Scaling back on my CC involvement...
Re: SteamWorks [03 Aug 2011] V26 pg.1&26 - XML done?
thenobodies80 wrote:Dim, let me say now that you have to wait for another couple of days....so please be patient, be patient! We're not an hospital and no one will die if a map sits for a couple of days (except you). Use your free time to look at other threads and give some suggestions instead to look at this one with a clock. Time go slower if you keep track of it!
DiM has not clearly been to Spanish hospitals. People with severe wounds or illness wait for hours and they never die. They just stay at the waiting room complaining about doctor's lazyness. If they can complain, their condition is not as bad as they say!
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Research and Conquer - Civilization meets Conquer Club
Best score: 2,346 - Best position: #618 - Best percentile: 4.87%
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Re: SteamWorks [03 Aug 2011] V26 pg.1&26 - XML done?
yay for the badge and double yay for the fact that it will be just a few more days (not months) before this goes to beta 
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Re: SteamWorks [03 Aug 2011] V26 pg.1&26 - XML done?
please update the link to the xml in the opening post, the c should be a d.
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