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Re: Dark Continent (Colonial Africa) [3,15, 12] Pg. 31
Posted: Mon Feb 20, 2012 2:52 am
by The Bison King
natty dread wrote:Maybe you could have two lions attacking the water buffalo (is that a water buffalo? it looks like one)... lions hunt in groups most of the time anyway.
Cape Buffalo.
I was sort of thinking that actually. That tawny swoosh in front of the buffalo is the implication of where another might go. However... that may force me to shrink the image down too small to get it all to fit into the map.
Re: Dark Continent (Colonial Africa) [3,15, 12] Pg. 31
Posted: Mon Feb 20, 2012 3:42 am
by natty dread
Well you could put the second lion behind the buffalo...
sort of like this:

Re: Dark Continent (Colonial Africa) [3,15, 12] Pg. 31
Posted: Mon Feb 20, 2012 3:58 am
by Gillipig
I like what you're doing with the lion vs buffalo thing! Better than just having two lions laying there, this will give it a bit more of a battle/war/conflict/"whatever you might call it" feel

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I think you should colour the landing spots with the same colours as it's European power and add a flag ontop of it.
Something like this but not on a toothpick

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Re: Dark Continent (Colonial Africa) [3,15, 12] Pg. 31
Posted: Mon Feb 20, 2012 4:58 pm
by ender516
If you colour a landing spot like its corresponding power, then it would appear to be part of the bonus, and the legend suggests that it is not.
Re: Dark Continent (Colonial Africa) [3,15, 12] Pg. 31
Posted: Fri Feb 24, 2012 1:43 am
by RedBaron0
Maybe its my dirty mind playing tricks as well... but it seems like the lion is trying to mount the water buffalo to me O_o
Ya know.... maybe Gillipig stumbled onto something there, perhaps the landing points could be pins with the flags on them.
Re: Dark Continent (Colonial Africa) [3,15, 12] Pg. 31
Posted: Fri Feb 24, 2012 3:10 am
by natty dread
I suggested that ages ago but no one listened ...

Re: Dark Continent (Colonial Africa) [3,15, 12] Pg. 31
Posted: Fri Feb 24, 2012 3:21 am
by Oneyed
nice map. and I like your lion/buffalo image.
could you add one more "hill" between Murzag and Niger?
Oneyed
Re: Dark Continent (Colonial Africa) [3,15, 12] Pg. 31
Posted: Fri Feb 24, 2012 11:09 am
by Gillipig
RedBaron0 wrote:Ya know.... maybe Gillipig stumbled onto something there, perhaps the landing points could be pins with the flags on them.
I didn't "stumble" Baron

! I think it would fit a colonization themed map pretty well to have the flags on sticks. That was what they did back then, stuck a flag in the ground on some remote place and claimed it as their own.
Re: Dark Continent (Colonial Africa) [3,15, 12] Pg. 31
Posted: Fri Feb 24, 2012 11:16 am
by Oneyed
Gillipig wrote:I think it would fit a colonization themed map pretty well to have the flags on sticks. That was what they did back then, stuck a flag in the ground on some remote place and claimed it as their own.
yes.
Oneyed
Re: Dark Continent (Colonial Africa) [3,15, 12] Pg. 31
Posted: Fri Feb 24, 2012 6:01 pm
by The Bison King
Gillipig wrote:RedBaron0 wrote:Ya know.... maybe Gillipig stumbled onto something there, perhaps the landing points could be pins with the flags on them.
I didn't "stumble" Baron

! I think it would fit a colonization themed map pretty well to have the flags on sticks. That was what they did back then, stuck a flag in the ground on some remote place and claimed it as their own.
Yeah that's ok cause I don't think I'm going to do it. I don't know I'm not very fond of the idea.
Re: Dark Continent (Colonial Africa) [3,15, 12] Pg. 31
Posted: Fri Feb 24, 2012 6:11 pm
by RedBaron0
Gillipig wrote:I like what you're doing with the lion vs buffalo thing! Better than just having two lions laying there, this will give it a bit more of a battle/war/conflict/"whatever you might call it" feel

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I think you should colour the landing spots with the same colours as it's European power and add a flag ontop of it.
Something like this
but not on a toothpick 
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I had assumed you meant not pinned by them not being on a toothpick...
The Bison King wrote:Yeah that's ok cause I don't think I'm going to do it. I don't know I'm not very fond of the idea.
Have you tried? I mean, I hate the idea of flutter, but apparently its artistic, and so there it is. I don't think it adds anything to the map, but :shrugs: what do I know... I just think it'll add a period feel and solve any flapping in the wind issues that go along with it.
Re: Dark Continent (Colonial Africa) [3,15, 12] Pg. 31
Posted: Fri Feb 24, 2012 9:35 pm
by The Bison King
Ok as for the signature here's the latest version:
[bigimg]http://img338.imageshack.us/img338/5673/darkcontinentupload.jpg[/bigimg]
Opinions?
Re: Dark Continent (Colonial Africa) [3,15, 12] Pg. 31
Posted: Fri Feb 24, 2012 11:35 pm
by The Bison King
You know what? I don't think I like this one better...
Having a buffalo being killed over the signature "Bison King"... I'm not sure if I like what that says about me.
Re: Dark Continent (Colonial Africa) [3,15, 12] Pg. 31
Posted: Sat Feb 25, 2012 2:57 am
by Gillipig
The Bison King wrote:Gillipig wrote:RedBaron0 wrote:Ya know.... maybe Gillipig stumbled onto something there, perhaps the landing points could be pins with the flags on them.
I didn't "stumble" Baron

! I think it would fit a colonization themed map pretty well to have the flags on sticks. That was what they did back then, stuck a flag in the ground on some remote place and claimed it as their own.
Yeah that's ok cause I don't think I'm going to do it. I don't know I'm not very fond of the idea.
If several people think it would look you should at least try it out! You can always remove it if turns out it doesn't look good.
Re: Dark Continent (Colonial Africa) [3,15, 12] Pg. 31
Posted: Sat Feb 25, 2012 9:29 am
by The Bison King
Gillipig wrote:The Bison King wrote:Gillipig wrote:RedBaron0 wrote:Ya know.... maybe Gillipig stumbled onto something there, perhaps the landing points could be pins with the flags on them.
I didn't "stumble" Baron

! I think it would fit a colonization themed map pretty well to have the flags on sticks. That was what they did back then, stuck a flag in the ground on some remote place and claimed it as their own.
Yeah that's ok cause I don't think I'm going to do it. I don't know I'm not very fond of the idea.
If several people think it would look you should at least try it out! You can always remove it if turns out it doesn't look good.
Yeah I'll give it a try when I get home from work. What do you think about the Buffalo?
Re: Dark Continent (Colonial Africa) [3,15, 12] Pg. 31
Posted: Sat Feb 25, 2012 4:30 pm
by RjBeals
Just thought I would pop in and say how much (graphically) I like this map. Very clear and a touch of style. Nice work as usual Bison.
Re: Dark Continent (Colonial Africa) [3,15, 12] Pg. 31
Posted: Sun Feb 26, 2012 5:58 am
by Gillipig
The Bison King wrote:Gillipig wrote:The Bison King wrote:Gillipig wrote:RedBaron0 wrote:Ya know.... maybe Gillipig stumbled onto something there, perhaps the landing points could be pins with the flags on them.
I didn't "stumble" Baron

! I think it would fit a colonization themed map pretty well to have the flags on sticks. That was what they did back then, stuck a flag in the ground on some remote place and claimed it as their own.
Yeah that's ok cause I don't think I'm going to do it. I don't know I'm not very fond of the idea.
If several people think it would look you should at least try it out! You can always remove it if turns out it doesn't look good.
Yeah I'll give it a try when I get home from work. What do you think about the Buffalo?
Good

! I like the buffalo/lion image. Although I think you need to rearrange the lioness back feet a bit to make it look like a realistic hunt scenario. Make it look like she's scrambling to stay on it's back.
Re: Dark Continent (Colonial Africa) [3,15, 12] Pg. 31
Posted: Mon Feb 27, 2012 12:02 am
by The Bison King
[bigimg]http://img826.imageshack.us/img826/5673/darkcontinentupload.jpg[/bigimg]
Well I gave it a try, and it looks ok. I had some trouble making them fit. Most of those territories were pretty small. I also changed the Signature again. It's less violent but I think it fits the map better.
Re: Dark Continent (Colonial Africa) [3,15, 12] Pg. 31
Posted: Mon Feb 27, 2012 12:04 am
by The Bison King
[bigimg]http://img341.imageshack.us/img341/5673/darkcontinentupload.jpg[/bigimg]
I still think I prefer this method of denoting the landing territories. I think it looks more natural and elegant. There's no awkward over lap, and it circumvents this whole issue:
ender516 wrote:If you colour a landing spot like its corresponding power, then it would appear to be part of the bonus, and the legend suggests that it is not.
Re: Dark Continent (Colonial Africa) [3,15, 12] Pg. 31
Posted: Mon Feb 27, 2012 3:30 am
by Gillipig
The Bison King wrote:[bigimg]http://img826.imageshack.us/img826/5673/darkcontinentupload.jpg[/bigimg]
Well I gave it a try, and it looks ok. I had some trouble making them fit. Most of those territories were pretty small. I also changed the Signature again. It's less violent but I think it fits the map better.
After having watched your fist version I still think the flags look much better on sticks than if they cover the entire region! If you made them a bit more "alive" I think they would look even better! Also white sticks might be more fitting with the colour scheme of the map.
Re: Dark Continent (Colonial Africa) [3,15, 12] Pg. 31
Posted: Mon Feb 27, 2012 10:38 am
by ender516
GIllipig, I have to disagree. These tiny flags on poles will in many cases be obscured by the troop numbers, and my issue with the colouring still stands.
Re: Dark Continent (Colonial Africa) [3,15, 12] Pg. 31
Posted: Mon Feb 27, 2012 1:58 pm
by The Bison King
ender516 wrote:GIllipig, I have to disagree. These tiny flags on poles will in many cases be obscured by the troop numbers, and my issue with the colouring still stands.
I'm afraid I've got to go with my XML guy on this one. It creates more complications than solutions, it obscures troop numbers and borders, and it makes those territory's relationship to surrounding bonuses unclear. None of these problems exist with the old style, which I think looks better any way.
Re: Dark Continent (Colonial Africa) [3,15, 12] Pg. 31
Posted: Mon Feb 27, 2012 2:05 pm
by The Bison King
And here's the new update!
[bigimg]http://img585.imageshack.us/img585/5673/darkcontinentupload.jpg[/bigimg]
[bigimg]http://img193.imageshack.us/img193/3790/darkcontinentsmalluploa.jpg[/bigimg]
The most notable change is that the signature is bigger and more regal.
-Added another effect to the coastline/water
-cleaned up the coastline's border
-changed the river and lakes color to match the sea
-moved a few territory names
-finally colored Corsica and the... whatever that Spanish island in the Mediterranean's called
-I added that extra dune between Niger and Murzag
Re: Dark Continent (Colonial Africa) [3,27, 12] Pg. 34
Posted: Mon Feb 27, 2012 2:08 pm
by The Bison King
I'm hoping to get this into the forge soon!
on an interesting side note since I started this map a friend of mine has moved to Japan, moved back, and then moved to Arizona. So yeah, I think it's time to wrap this one up.
Re: Dark Continent (Colonial Africa) [3,27, 12] Pg. 34
Posted: Mon Feb 27, 2012 2:15 pm
by natty dread
I think you current landing points are good, but they don't seem to have the same texture as the other land, or at least it doesn't show as strongly...