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Posted: **Thu Jul 03, 2008 6:10 pm**

gimil wrote:

t-o-m, you earned this one.

wow

i just had my last click from conquer club for the night and saw this

cheers gimil

Posted: **Thu Jul 03, 2008 6:38 pm**

Er... does that mean that no more graphical changes will be made? Or will you still be improving it?

Posted: **Fri Jul 04, 2008 12:14 am**

Still room for nitpicking in FF...

For instance - the white text at the bottom of the large map is pretty blurry!!

But congrats on your stamps t-o-m... FF is :arrow:

C.

Posted: **Fri Jul 04, 2008 10:01 am**

Mjinga wrote:Er... does that mean that no more graphical changes will be made? Or will you still be improving it?

no no - i will still be doing updates.

im away this weekend so no updates then but i will when i get back.

yeti_c wrote:Still room for nitpicking in FF...

For instance - the white text at the bottom of the large map is pretty blurry!!

But congrats on your stamps t-o-m... FF is

C.

thanks yeti

Posted: **Fri Jul 04, 2008 11:31 am**

how about this size for large:

its the same as prevous page image but re-sized, so you may have to refresh.

its around 725px's high, that ok for size? or smaller?

edit:
this would no way be the final image quality, this is done on photobucket so dont comment on quality please...

Posted: **Fri Jul 04, 2008 12:29 pm**

ok.

i had a go at the XML, and here it is:

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<?xml version="1.0"?>
<map>
   <title>Madagascar</title>
   <smallwidth>475</smallwidth>
    <smallheight>600</smallheight>
    <largewidth>xx</largewidth>
    <largeheight>xx</largeheight>
    <filetype>png</filetype>

    <continent>
       <name>Toamasina</name>
       <bonus>2</bonus>
       <components>
          <territory>A-M</territory>
          <territory>Atsinanana</territory>
          <territory>Analanjirofo</territory>
       </components>
    </continent>

       <continent>
       <name>Antsiranana</name>
       <bonus>1</bonus>
       <components>
          <territory>Diana</territory>
          <territory>Sava</territory>
       </components>
    </continent>

       <continent>
       <name>Mahajanga</name>
       <bonus>3</bonus>
       <components>
          <territory>Sofia</territory>
          <territory>Boeny</territory>
          <territory>Betsiboka</territory>
          <territory>Melaky</territory>
        <territory>Mampikony</territory>
       </components>
    </continent>

    <continent>
       <name>Antananarivo</name>
       <bonus>3</bonus>
       <components>
          <territory>Itasy</territory>
          <territory>Betafo</territory>
          <territory>Ankazobe</territory>
          <territory>Bongolava</territory>
       </components>
    </continent>

       <continent>
       <name>Toliara</name>
       <bonus>4</bonus>
       <components>
          <territory>Menabe</territory>
          <territory>Manja</territory>
          <territory>Tulear</territory>
          <territory>Androy</territory>
        <territory>Anosy</territory>
       </components>
    </continent>

       <continent>
       <name>Fianarantsoa</name>
       <bonus>4</bonus>
       <components>
          <territory>Vato.</territory>
          <territory>Farafangana</territory>
          <territory>Ihorombe</territory>
          <territory>Haute.</territory>
        <territory>Ambosita</territory>
       </components>
    </continent>


    <territory>
       <name>Diana</name>
       <borders>
          <border>Sava</border>
          <border>Sofia</border>
       </borders>
       <coordinates>
======================
       </coordinates>
    </territory>

    <territory>
       <name>Sava</name>
       <borders>
          <border>Diana</border>
          <border>Sofia</border>
       </borders>
       <coordinates>
=====================
       </coordinates>
    </territory>

    <territory>
       <name>Sofia</name>
       <borders>
          <border>Diana</border>
          <border>Sava</border>
          <border>Mampikony</border>
          <border>Boeny</border>
       </borders>
       <coordinates>
============
       </coordinates>
    </territory>

    <territory>
       <name>Mampikony</name>
       <borders>
          <border>Sofia</border>
          <border>Boeny</border>
          <border>Betsiboka</border>
       </borders>
       <coordinates>
======================
       </coordinates>
    </territory>

    <territory>
       <name>Melaky</name>
       <borders>
          <border>Menabe</border>
          <border>Boeny</border>
          <border>Betsiboka</border>
       </borders>
       <coordinates>
==================
       </coordinates>
    </territory>

    <territory>
       <name>Analanjirofo</name>
       <borders>
          <border>A-M</border>
          <border>Atsinanana</border>
       </borders>
       <coordinates>
============
       </coordinates>
    </territory>

    <territory>
       <name>A-M</name>
       <borders>
          <border>Analanjirofo</border>
          <border>Atsinanana</border>
          <border>Betafo</border>
          <border>Ankazobe</border>
        <border>Betsiboka</border>
       </borders>
       <coordinates>
===================
       </coordinates>
    </territory>

    <territory>
       <name>Atsinanana</name>
       <borders>
          <border>A-M</border>
          <border>Analanjirofo</border>
          <border>Vato.</border>
          <border>Betafo</border>
       </borders>
       <coordinates>
=====================
       </coordinates>
    </territory>

    <territory>
       <name>Ankazobe</name>
       <borders>
          <border>Itasy</border>
          <border>Betafo</border>
          <border>Bongolava</border>
          <border>A-M</border>
        <border>Betsiboka</border>
       </borders>
       <coordinates>
==============
       </coordinates>
    </territory>

       <territory>
       <name>Itasy</name>
       <borders>
          <border>Betafo</border>
          <border>Bongolava</border>
          <border>Ankazobe</border>
       </borders>
       <coordinates>
===================
       </coordinates>
    </territory>

       <territory>
       <name>Bongolava</name>
       <borders>
          <border>Itasy</border>
          <border>Betafo</border>
          <border>Ankazobe</border>
          <border>Betsiboka</border>
        <border>Menabe</border>
       </borders>
       <coordinates>
====================
       </coordinates>
    </territory>

       <territory>
       <name>Betafo</name>
       <borders>
          <border>Itasy</border>
          <border>Bongolava</border>
          <border>Ankazobe</border>
          <border>Ambosita</border>
       </borders>
       <coordinates>
========
       </coordinates>
    </territory>

    <territory>
       <name>Menabe</name>
       <borders>
          <border>Melaky</border>
          <border>Bongolava</border>
          <border>Betafo</border>
          <border>Manja</border>
       </borders>
       <coordinates>
================
       </coordinates>
    </territory>

    <territory>
       <name>Manja</name>
       <borders>
          <border>Tulear</border>
          <border>Menabe</border>
          <border>Androy</border>
          <border>Anosy</border>
        <border>Haute.</border>
        <border>Ihorombe</border>
       </borders>
       <coordinates>
=========
       </coordinates>
    </territory>

       <territory>
       <name>Tulear</name>
       <borders>
          <border>Manja</border>
          <border>Androy</border>
          <border>Anosy</border>
       </borders>
       <coordinates>
=====
       </coordinates>
    </territory>

       <territory>
       <name>Androy</name>
       <borders>
          <border>Tulear</border>
          <border>Manja</border>
          <border>Anosy</border>
       </borders>
       <coordinates>
===========
       </coordinates>
    </territory>

       <territory>
       <name>Anosy</name>
       <borders>
          <border>Androy</border>
          <border>Manja</border>
          <border>Farafangana</border>
       </borders>
       <coordinates>
===========
       </coordinates>
    </territory>

    <territory>
       <name>Vato.</name>
       <borders>
          <border>Atsinanana</border>
          <border>Farafangana</border>
       </borders>
       <coordinates>
======
       </coordinates>
    </territory>

    <territory>
       <name>Farafangana</name>
       <borders>
          <border>Vato.</border>
          <border>Anosy</border>
          <border>Ihorombe</border>
       </borders>
       <coordinates>
=============
       </coordinates>
    </territory>

       <territory>
       <name>Ihorombe</name>
       <borders>
          <border>Farafangana</border>
          <border>Manja</border>
          <border>Haute.</border>
       </borders>
       <coordinates>
=============
       </coordinates>
    </territory>

    <territory>
       <name>Haute.</name>
       <borders>
          <border>Manja</border>
          <border>Ihorombe</border>
          <border>Ambosita</border>
       </borders>
       <coordinates>
=============
       </coordinates>
    </territory>

    <territory>
       <name>Ambosita</name>
       <borders>
          <border>Haute.</border>
          <border>Betafo</border>
       </borders>
       <coordinates>
======
       </coordinates>
    </territory>

</map>

BUT, what i wasnt sure about was whether i had to have the start of territories and the end as tags like:
<territories>
TERITS HERE
</territories>
and the same with conts.
because i didnt do that. i just did the terits and the conts - thats all - is that it?

also, coordinates are just "===========" as i will do them later when i have the final size for large.

Posted: **Fri Jul 04, 2008 1:46 pm**

On first impression - the XML looks good...

(Obviously except for the ==============)

C.

Posted: **Fri Jul 04, 2008 1:58 pm**

t-o-m wrote:
cairnswk wrote:
Surprise me t-o-m!! you choose. just try something else and throw it up here for us to see.
the objective of doing this, is to see if it can be improved upon, that's all.

ok
tomorrow

What happened to this...i was waiting to see a possible colour change on the legend. Have you decided against it now that it has been stamped.

Posted: **Fri Jul 04, 2008 2:04 pm**

cairnswk wrote:
t-o-m wrote:
cairnswk wrote:
Surprise me t-o-m!! you choose. just try something else and throw it up here for us to see.
the objective of doing this, is to see if it can be improved upon, that's all.

ok
tomorrow

What happened to this...i was waiting to see a possible colour change on the legend. Have you decided against it now that it has been stamped.

I was unerthe assumption that he would do this minor detail. If hes changed his mind I can always revoke the stamp

Posted: **Fri Jul 04, 2008 2:22 pm**

cairnswk wrote:
t-o-m wrote:
cairnswk wrote:
Surprise me t-o-m!! you choose. just try something else and throw it up here for us to see.
the objective of doing this, is to see if it can be improved upon, that's all.

ok
tomorrow

What happened to this...i was waiting to see a possible colour change on the legend. Have you decided against it now that it has been stamped.

no no!
im just busy, i have a lot of things that i have to do, including on the computer, because im going away tomorrow and i need to sort things. my computer has little memory left so PS takes a long time to load and i cannot do anything else whilst i have PS up, or internet becomes slow ect.

so when i do have time ill do it.

Posted: **Fri Jul 04, 2008 2:32 pm**

the image above cannot be the large map. It is too blurry. I suspect you did not originally design this at a proper resolution? Sorry to say, but it needs to be designed at the proper quality for both large and small.

Posted: **Fri Jul 04, 2008 2:40 pm**

snapdoodle wrote:the image above cannot be the large map. It is too blurry. I suspect you did not originally design this at a proper resolution? Sorry to say, but it needs to be designed at the proper quality for both large and small.

t-o-m wrote:this would no way be the final image quality, this is done on photobucket so dont comment on quality please...

============

and yeti, sorry i only just saw your post...

yeti_c wrote:On first impression - the XML looks good...

(Obviously except for the ==============)

C.

yup, i ran it through the tester and i had missed out 2 terits! but i fixed that now.
when i do the update for cairns, ill take the numbers off and ill show everyone the coordinates - they're done.

they're all quite good - BUT i think most of them on the small are about 1 px too high.
havnt checked large yet.

i have a question though,

when i make the large, will i be making the army circles bigger aswel? or will they stay the same at 22px?
or does it not matter?

edit:
ill also get rid of that annoying little terit line overlap around the diana region going into sofia...it annoys me

Posted: **Fri Jul 04, 2008 3:36 pm**

Army circles can get bigger or stay the same...

The army numbers themselves do NOT increase in size.

C.

Posted: **Fri Jul 04, 2008 3:45 pm**

t-o-m wrote:....
i have a question though,
when i make the large, will i be making the army circles bigger aswel? or will they stay the same at 22px?
or does it not matter?

t-o-m...small is usually 22, large is usually 24, but i have moved to making them all 22 on both versions...easier to centre.

Up to you. As you can see, depends on the graphics, circles are different from houses/boxes.

Posted: **Fri Jul 04, 2008 4:21 pm**

cairnswk wrote:
t-o-m wrote:....
i have a question though,
when i make the large, will i be making the army circles bigger aswel? or will they stay the same at 22px?
or does it not matter?

t-o-m...small is usually 22, large is usually 24, but i have moved to making them all 22 on both versions...easier to centre. Up to you. As you can see, depends on the graphics, circles are different from houses/boxes.

ok thanks

heres an update - minor touch-ups and cairns - your different coloured background. im not to sure about it - maybe too strong?

Posted: **Fri Jul 04, 2008 4:37 pm**

oh, and ill be back late sunday/monday to pick up on comments

Posted: **Fri Jul 04, 2008 4:42 pm**

I like the new colors. They are good.

Posted: **Fri Jul 04, 2008 6:29 pm**

I still have my concerns about the legend - I don't think it looks right.

I'm not sure it's just the colour... have a play around and try something different - remember the aim is to improve on what you've got.

I'm not sure if you ever played around with the blending options on the island itself - It still looks a little bit like it's bit stuck onto the sea rather than rising up out of it... ;-)

Posted: **Fri Jul 04, 2008 9:52 pm**

not in love w/ water texture.

also, mini-map needs to have the bevel or needs to be integrated better into the sign.

Posted: **Sun Jul 06, 2008 2:40 pm**

wcaclimbing wrote:I like the new colors. They are good.

i would prefer a tad lighter.

MrBenn wrote:I'm not sure it's just the colour... have a play around and try something different - remember the aim is to improve on what you've got.

i will when i have time.

MrBenn wrote:I'm not sure if you ever played around with the blending options on the island itself - It still looks a little bit like it's bit stuck onto the sea rather than rising up out of it...

i know what you mean - i did the outer glow however im not too bothered with the way it looks in regards to 'sitting on top' i quite like it.

snapdoodle wrote:not in love w/ water texture.

i like it.

snapdoodle wrote:
also, mini-map needs to have the bevel or needs to be integrated better into the sign.

i think the minimap fits in w/ the sign fine...it has a beveled texture on it.

Posted: **Mon Jul 07, 2008 10:45 am**

ill put a poll up about the legend things.

i have the finished XML - well did a while ago, but i didnt upload it.
then i will make the large V and centering.

Posted: **Tue Jul 08, 2008 9:02 am**

fair enough.

the line divisions in the mini-map are noticeably jagged then.

Also, the title of the map looks better in your sig than it does in the map itself. Is this something you were planning on changing?

Posted: **Tue Jul 08, 2008 10:16 am**

snapdoodle wrote:the line divisions in the mini-map are noticeably jagged then.

oh i see now, what would you suggest?

snapdoodle wrote:Also, the title of the map looks better in your sig than it does in the map itself. Is this something you were planning on changing?

yes, i see that also now

my monitor at home is little better than...shit.
so now i can see things better - i think i could darken it a bit, ill try a bevel. There is too much bevel on my sig - and its all pixely.

ill have a play, but i want to get the legend things out of the way (darker and lighter?)
(the legend backgrounds.)

Posted: **Tue Jul 08, 2008 10:28 am**

softer and/or fatter brush for lines.

your sig being pixely is a result of the animation and not the design.

If you create an image out of the single frame you will see the resolution is improved.

It may be too beveled for your taste but I just wanted to point out that even the "over-designed" version here is much better than the plain text there now. I actually think it looks good in your sig but probably will clash with the bevel of the legend.

In any case, consider adding some flavor to the map title.

Posted: **Tue Jul 08, 2008 10:46 am**

snapdoodle wrote:
your sig being pixely is a result of the animation and not the design.

actually it was pixely on the document when making it - its only because i have way too much bevel on it.

snapdoodle wrote:It may be too beveled for your taste but I just wanted to point out that even the "over-designed" version here is much better than the plain text there now. I actually think it looks good in your sig but probably will clash with the bevel of the legend.

In any case, consider adding some flavor to the map title.

ill try some things out.

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