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Re: Version 11.2.2 [ [14 August 2013 p28/28] FRANCE 2.1

Posted: Sun Sep 01, 2013 7:56 am
by pamoa
yeah that's what I thought
not impossible but very difficult to master

Lancelot you should try the cairns solution if you know how and have the tools
or please forget the shadow and it would be perfectly fine

Re: Version 11.2.2 [ [14 August 2013 p28/28] FRANCE 2.1

Posted: Mon Sep 02, 2013 1:21 pm
by RedBaron0
With the tides of change come additional requirements. Since this map began its journey under the assumption that 8 being the maximum amount of player, I won't ask the map be totally reworked to accommodate this, however, please note that a player cap may need to be imposed should it be discovered and/or deemed that the map can't handle player amounts over 8.

Also note that there are 5 new army colors, 4 totally new and a different shade of green for player #2. Please take this into account when doing graphics testing. All HEX codes are as follows:

    Red: FF0000
    Green: 006400
    Blue: 0000FF
    Yellow: FFFF00
    Pink: FF00FF
    Cyan: 00FFFF
    Orange: FF9922
    Silver: C0C0C0
    Purple: 9400D3
    Lime: 00FF00
    Amber: CD5C5C
    Olive: 688E23


Re: Version 11.2.2 [ [14 August 2013 p28/28] FRANCE 2.1

Posted: Tue Sep 03, 2013 7:06 am
by Lancelot du Lac
I present to you the work of koontz.

He redraw the mountains. Thank you to him for this work.

What do you think?

Image

Re: Version 11.2.2 [ [14 August 2013 p28/28] FRANCE 2.1

Posted: Tue Sep 03, 2013 7:24 am
by betiko
i think it looks very good. when is this going to beta?????????

Re: Version 11.2.2 [ [14 August 2013 p28/28] FRANCE 2.1

Posted: Tue Sep 03, 2013 7:42 am
by pamoa
great
just put the borders over the shadows

Re: Version 11.2.2 [ [14 August 2013 p28/28] FRANCE 2.1

Posted: Tue Sep 03, 2013 8:48 am
by Mishalex
in my opinion, the 10.1 version without shadow fits better than this... but if everybody feels good about this version, let's go with it...

Re: Version 11.2.2 [ [14 August 2013 p28/28] FRANCE 2.1

Posted: Tue Sep 03, 2013 8:58 am
by koontz1973
Mishalex wrote:in my opinion, the 10.1 version without shadow fits better than this... but if everybody feels good about this version, let's go with it...

10.1 had no shadow, 10.2 did but the shadow for the bottom mountains was facing the wrong way completely. Also, as the mountains where not grounded, it made them float.

These by far are not perfect but as I said to Lance in my last PM, it will need a little bit of work to blend them in more fully to the map. Things like moving the borders above the shadows (left side) and blend (right side). Simple things like that can be done really quickly.

Apart from that, all he really needs to do is move the odd name around and he should be good to go for the the small map.

Re: Version 11.2.2 [ [14 August 2013 p28/28] FRANCE 2.1

Posted: Tue Sep 03, 2013 9:06 am
by iAmCaffeine
betiko wrote:i think it looks very good. when is this going to beta?????????


Seriously?

Re: Version 11.2.2 [ [14 August 2013 p28/28] FRANCE 2.1

Posted: Tue Sep 03, 2013 11:51 am
by cairnswk
Luc a couple of small things i notice...
1. the mountains are a lot better, but yes they still need some colour work for blending.
2. the Monaco circle on the legend is a different colour from the one on the map
3. Catalogne circle on the map and the 888 look like there is an opacity circle covering it, not the same colour as in the legend
4. the line in the legend for impassable looks like a border-line, can you widen it to look like one of the rivers
5. i think "Suburbs Riots" should be "Suburban Riots" - this sits better gramatically with "Regional" and "Foreign"
6. "the three surburbs" should be "The three suburbs" (typo) and is that equals "+2" bonus?
7. should not impassable be Impassable with a capital - consistency with rest of map - it looks like a lower case "i"
8. in the mini map, the ALS is a different colour from the other abbreviations...is that deliberate?
they are some small things, but would make the map better IMHO. :)

Re: Version 11.2.2 [ [14 August 2013 p28/28] FRANCE 2.1

Posted: Tue Sep 03, 2013 7:31 pm
by betiko
iAmCaffeine wrote:
betiko wrote:i think it looks very good. when is this going to beta?????????


Seriously?


Have you seen what 70% of the maps look like? Are you saying those graphics don t meet the site s standards?

Re: Version 11.2.2 [ [14 August 2013 p28/28] FRANCE 2.1

Posted: Wed Sep 04, 2013 5:15 am
by iAmCaffeine
betiko wrote:
iAmCaffeine wrote:
betiko wrote:i think it looks very good. when is this going to beta?????????


Seriously?


Have you seen what 70% of the maps look like? Are you saying those graphics don t meet the site s standards?


It has potential but it has a fair way to go graphically..

What I would say is that some quenched maps are terrible compared to others. I don't know how they got through the foundry, but I suppose it depends on who the mapmaker is.

Re: Version 11.2.2 [ [14 August 2013 p28/28] FRANCE 2.1

Posted: Wed Sep 04, 2013 5:53 am
by koontz1973
iAmCaffeine wrote:
betiko wrote:
iAmCaffeine wrote:
betiko wrote:i think it looks very good. when is this going to beta?????????


Seriously?


Have you seen what 70% of the maps look like? Are you saying those graphics don t meet the site s standards?


It has potential but it has a fair way to go graphically..

What I would say is that some quenched maps are terrible compared to others. I don't know how they got through the foundry, but I suppose it depends on who the mapmaker is.

No, it depends on the time they where made. Some maps may not be to the taste of everyone, but each map goes through the same consideration.

Re: Version 11.2.2 [ [14 August 2013 p28/28] FRANCE 2.1

Posted: Wed Sep 04, 2013 10:20 am
by iAmCaffeine
Time they're made? Presumably you're inferring that newer maps are produced to a higher standard, graphically?

Re: Version 11.2.2 [ [14 August 2013 p28/28] FRANCE 2.1

Posted: Wed Sep 04, 2013 10:30 am
by koontz1973
iAmCaffeine wrote:Time they're made? Presumably you're inferring that newer maps are produced to a higher standard, graphically?

Correct. It also depends on the artist as well but we all have to meet certain requirements. That does not change.

Re: Version 11.2.2 [ [14 August 2013 p28/28] FRANCE 2.1

Posted: Wed Sep 04, 2013 1:41 pm
by RjBeals
How about less obtrusive mountains, sort of blend them into the map a little better like these?

If you like these, I can help, but the file would be photoshop.

[bigimg]http://i.imgur.com/6OyGCiC.jpg[/bigimg]

Re: Version 11.2.2 [ [14 August 2013 p28/28] FRANCE 2.1

Posted: Thu Sep 05, 2013 1:01 am
by pamoa
sorry rj but they are awful

Re: Version 11.2.2 [ [14 August 2013 p28/28] FRANCE 2.1

Posted: Thu Sep 05, 2013 11:12 am
by Seamus76
pamoa wrote:sorry rj but they are awful
I actually like them. While the hand drawn aspect may not fit perfectly with the rigid style of the map, what I do like most is that, like rj said, they are unobtrusive, and blend in nicely with the map. Basically they don't stand out, and draw your attention straight to them. This allows the great work you did on the overall map to shine through. So while you may not like the exact look of these I think they are more along the lines of how they should look. In my personal opinion.

Re: Version 11.2.2 [ [14 August 2013 p28/28] FRANCE 2.1

Posted: Fri Sep 06, 2013 1:11 am
by Donelladan
I find the one made by koontz more beautiful, but also too visible, as said Seamus.
The first thing you see when you watch the map with koontz mountain are the mountains.

Maybe we could have a map with rj montains everywhere and compare. I may prefer the one from rj too for the map.

Re: Version 11.2.2 [ [14 August 2013 p28/28] FRANCE 2.1

Posted: Thu Sep 12, 2013 9:06 am
by RjBeals
Donelladan wrote:Maybe we could have a map with rj montains everywhere and compare. I may prefer the one from rj too for the map.


Not going to do all until I get the approval.

Re: Version 11.2.2 [ [14 August 2013 p28/28] FRANCE 2.1

Posted: Sat Sep 14, 2013 8:48 pm
by RedBaron0
I kinda like Rj's kinda similar to the one's I presented... so my opinion is likely biased. They could use a little more depth, cragyness/shadows.

Although considering all the options, I'd go with koontz's version over any other presented thus far.

Re: Version 11.2.4 [ [16 September 2013 p32/32] FRANCE 2.1

Posted: Mon Sep 16, 2013 2:50 pm
by Lancelot du Lac
Last update
VERSION 11.2.4
1. Map Name France 2.1
2. Version 11.2 [16 September 2013]
3. Dimension : 915 * 927
[bigimg]http://nsa34.casimages.com/img/2013/09/16/13091609491365918.png[/bigimg]

Here are my last updates.

Some corrections in the map legend. Some corrections on the borders between some regions.

As suggested by koontz, I added an opacity for the moutains. They seem better to incorporate background.

I have too redrawn borders that affected the mountains.

Now, I think we can finally validated the graphics.

Thank you all for your comments, make sure to move quikly. I is a perfect team map with the news conquer's settings ! ;)

Re: Version 11.2.4 [ [16 September 2013 p32/32] FRANCE 2.1

Posted: Mon Sep 16, 2013 4:19 pm
by Mishalex
Okayyy, finally, that's fit better IMO ! Thanks Koontz for the tips ! :)

Re: Version 11.2.4 [ [16 September 2013 p32/32] FRANCE 2.1

Posted: Sun Sep 22, 2013 9:01 am
by koontz1973
This image is taken from the current version. Please look for my lines. Red means you need to move the name for a better position. Blue, you might need to redraw the border as the name is on it. Another thing, the position of the names on more than one line, move them closer. Apart from that. I am pretty happy with this but isaiah and RB0 need to give you the going over. ;) When you come to do the small map, you might need to fudge the lines again to get the names to fit in, but you should not have to many problems with this.

[bigimg]http://imageshack.us/a/img268/6226/a9ga.png[/bigimg]

Re: Version 11.2.4 [ [16 September 2013 p32/32] FRANCE 2.1

Posted: Sun Sep 22, 2013 4:32 pm
by Mishalex
Thanks Koontz, that will not take any longer to change that... :)

Re: Version 11.5 [ [23 September 2013 p32/32] FRANCE 2.1

Posted: Mon Sep 23, 2013 4:04 pm
by Lancelot du Lac
Here are the last few changes.

Before starting the small map, I await your agreement.

Last update
VERSION 11.5
1. Map Name France 2.1
2. Version 11.5 [23 September 2013]
3. Dimension : 915 * 927
[bigimg]http://nsa33.casimages.com/img/2013/09/23/130923110020316433.png[/bigimg]