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Re: Logic dictates that there is a God!
Posted: Wed Aug 13, 2008 3:25 pm
by Juan_Bottom
packrat31306 wrote:Haggis_McMutton wrote:"
" Indeed
Just curious, do you believe in the theory of gravity? Or is god pushing us down through sheer will?
how did gravity come to be by itself? serious question.
Are you suggesting that if one doesn't know an answer (s)he should just dismiss it as God's will untill the answer is learned?
Re: Logic dictates that there is a God!
Posted: Wed Aug 13, 2008 3:26 pm
by packrat31306
Juan_Bottom wrote:packrat31306 wrote:i really can't believe that we are still beating this dead horse. wow
i give the athiests props though.
You never answered my questions for you, you big dummy.
It takes infinite more faith in what you believe, and you know it. Because there is absolutly no evidence to back you up. You literally make it up as you go along. Furthermore, everything you believe sounds retarded to the average ear. "T-Rex ate coconuts, chilled with Adam, and sank deep in the mud during the great flood." I give you zero props, for acting silly. Even you know that what your saying is retarded, you just want to believe it so badly that you put your common sense on hold.
I don't care though, because I can see that original bit of Athiesm growing inside of you.
packrat31306 wrote:i say it takes more faith to believe in the evolutionary theory then creation.
No it doesn't. Because we have evidence, and your side blatently lies.
packrat31306 wrote:it's much easier to say God did it because it's hard to believe that is no god
Yeah... It's a hard thing to get over. But that doesn't make it the truth.
Took me a while to finally let go, even though I had some real doubts for a while. Just like you said, it's easier to believe, and not worry about your fate. But this is also where I see you beginning to wake up.
packrat31306 wrote:it takes so much faith to believe all these things that you guys believe
No. Just no... And you know that you can see that.
packrat31306 wrote:it's like saying "i believe because i told myself it's true!" wow.
That's exactly what you are doing, and you know it. You have nothing to base your claim off of. We can dismiss anything that you throw at us. And
I have.
you have?!?!?!?!?!? question mr bottom....let's have a chat. what are ghosts?
Re: Logic dictates that there is a God!
Posted: Wed Aug 13, 2008 3:27 pm
by packrat31306
Juan_Bottom wrote:packrat31306 wrote:Haggis_McMutton wrote:"
" Indeed
Just curious, do you believe in the theory of gravity? Or is god pushing us down through sheer will?
how did gravity come to be by itself? serious question.
Are you suggesting that if one doesn't know an answer (s)he should just dismiss it as God's will untill the answer is learned?
you still haven't answered my question.
Re: Logic dictates that there is a God!
Posted: Wed Aug 13, 2008 3:29 pm
by packrat31306
Snorri1234 wrote:It is indeed far easier to just believe God did it.
It doesn't make it true though.
i think your avitar sums you up nicely
Re: Logic dictates that there is a God!
Posted: Wed Aug 13, 2008 3:30 pm
by jay_a2j
packrat31306 wrote:Haggis_McMutton wrote:"
" Indeed
Just curious, do you believe in the theory of gravity? Or is god pushing us down through sheer will?
how did gravity come to be by itself? serious question.
You won't get an answer. Creation screams, "There is a God!" but some will chose to live on their own merit. They want to believe so bad that there is no God, yet deep down God has written on their hearts, the knowledge of His existence.
Re: Logic dictates that there is a God!
Posted: Wed Aug 13, 2008 3:32 pm
by jay_a2j
packrat31306 wrote:Juan_Bottom wrote:packrat31306 wrote:i really can't believe that we are still beating this dead horse. wow
i give the athiests props though.
You never answered my questions for you, you big dummy.
It takes infinite more faith in what you believe, and you know it. Because there is absolutly no evidence to back you up. You literally make it up as you go along. Furthermore, everything you believe sounds retarded to the average ear. "T-Rex ate coconuts, chilled with Adam, and sank deep in the mud during the great flood." I give you zero props, for acting silly. Even you know that what your saying is retarded, you just want to believe it so badly that you put your common sense on hold.
I don't care though, because I can see that original bit of Athiesm growing inside of you.
packrat31306 wrote:i say it takes more faith to believe in the evolutionary theory then creation.
No it doesn't. Because we have evidence, and your side blatently lies.
packrat31306 wrote:it's much easier to say God did it because it's hard to believe that is no god
Yeah... It's a hard thing to get over. But that doesn't make it the truth.
Took me a while to finally let go, even though I had some real doubts for a while. Just like you said, it's easier to believe, and not worry about your fate. But this is also where I see you beginning to wake up.
packrat31306 wrote:it takes so much faith to believe all these things that you guys believe
No. Just no... And you know that you can see that.
packrat31306 wrote:it's like saying "i believe because i told myself it's true!" wow.
That's exactly what you are doing, and you know it. You have nothing to base your claim off of. We can dismiss anything that you throw at us. And
I have.
you have?!?!?!?!?!? question mr bottom....let's have a chat. what are ghosts?
Answer: demons.
Re: Logic dictates that there is a God!
Posted: Wed Aug 13, 2008 3:33 pm
by packrat31306
you know, even though we believe the same thing, you need to be able to reach them on a level they will understand. are you trying to bring them on you? it may be true but you'll not get very far doing it like that bro.
Re: Logic dictates that there is a God!
Posted: Wed Aug 13, 2008 3:34 pm
by Frigidus
And now we've gotten back to the part where we both roll our eyes and declare that deep down the other side knows they're wrong. Woot.
Re: Logic dictates that there is a God!
Posted: Wed Aug 13, 2008 3:35 pm
by packrat31306
alright. to mr bottom.....what are ghosts?
Re: Logic dictates that there is a God!
Posted: Wed Aug 13, 2008 3:35 pm
by jay_a2j
packrat31306 wrote:you know, even though we believe the same thing, you need to be able to reach them on a level they will understand. are you trying to bring them on you? it may be true but you'll not get very far doing it like that bro.
que?
Re: Logic dictates that there is a God!
Posted: Wed Aug 13, 2008 3:36 pm
by packrat31306
jay_a2j wrote:packrat31306 wrote:Juan_Bottom wrote:packrat31306 wrote:i really can't believe that we are still beating this dead horse. wow
i give the athiests props though.
You never answered my questions for you, you big dummy.
It takes infinite more faith in what you believe, and you know it. Because there is absolutly no evidence to back you up. You literally make it up as you go along. Furthermore, everything you believe sounds retarded to the average ear. "T-Rex ate coconuts, chilled with Adam, and sank deep in the mud during the great flood." I give you zero props, for acting silly. Even you know that what your saying is retarded, you just want to believe it so badly that you put your common sense on hold.
I don't care though, because I can see that original bit of Athiesm growing inside of you.
packrat31306 wrote:i say it takes more faith to believe in the evolutionary theory then creation.
No it doesn't. Because we have evidence, and your side blatently lies.
packrat31306 wrote:it's much easier to say God did it because it's hard to believe that is no god
Yeah... It's a hard thing to get over. But that doesn't make it the truth.
Took me a while to finally let go, even though I had some real doubts for a while. Just like you said, it's easier to believe, and not worry about your fate. But this is also where I see you beginning to wake up.
packrat31306 wrote:it takes so much faith to believe all these things that you guys believe
No. Just no... And you know that you can see that.
packrat31306 wrote:it's like saying "i believe because i told myself it's true!" wow.
That's exactly what you are doing, and you know it. You have nothing to base your claim off of. We can dismiss anything that you throw at us. And
I have.
you have?!?!?!?!?!? question mr bottom....let's have a chat. what are ghosts?
Answer: demons.
by the way........that's incorrect.
Re: Logic dictates that there is a God!
Posted: Wed Aug 13, 2008 3:37 pm
by Frigidus
jay_a2j wrote:packrat31306 wrote:you know, even though we believe the same thing, you need to be able to reach them on a level they will understand. are you trying to bring them on you? it may be true but you'll not get very far doing it like that bro.
que?
I think he's saying that this is no way to hit on us.
Re: Logic dictates that there is a God!
Posted: Wed Aug 13, 2008 3:37 pm
by Frigidus
packrat31306 wrote:jay_a2j wrote:packrat31306 wrote:Juan_Bottom wrote:packrat31306 wrote:i really can't believe that we are still beating this dead horse. wow
i give the athiests props though.
You never answered my questions for you, you big dummy.
It takes infinite more faith in what you believe, and you know it. Because there is absolutly no evidence to back you up. You literally make it up as you go along. Furthermore, everything you believe sounds retarded to the average ear. "T-Rex ate coconuts, chilled with Adam, and sank deep in the mud during the great flood." I give you zero props, for acting silly. Even you know that what your saying is retarded, you just want to believe it so badly that you put your common sense on hold.
I don't care though, because I can see that original bit of Athiesm growing inside of you.
packrat31306 wrote:i say it takes more faith to believe in the evolutionary theory then creation.
No it doesn't. Because we have evidence, and your side blatently lies.
packrat31306 wrote:it's much easier to say God did it because it's hard to believe that is no god
Yeah... It's a hard thing to get over. But that doesn't make it the truth.
Took me a while to finally let go, even though I had some real doubts for a while. Just like you said, it's easier to believe, and not worry about your fate. But this is also where I see you beginning to wake up.
packrat31306 wrote:it takes so much faith to believe all these things that you guys believe
No. Just no... And you know that you can see that.
packrat31306 wrote:it's like saying "i believe because i told myself it's true!" wow.
That's exactly what you are doing, and you know it. You have nothing to base your claim off of. We can dismiss anything that you throw at us. And
I have.
you have?!?!?!?!?!? question mr bottom....let's have a chat. what are ghosts?
Answer: demons.
by the way........that's incorrect.
Quite. The correct answer was, of course, they don't exist.
Re: Logic dictates that there is a God!
Posted: Wed Aug 13, 2008 3:39 pm
by packrat31306
Frigidus wrote:
Quite. The correct answer was, of course, they don't exist.
also incorrect, but i was expecting that.
Re: Logic dictates that there is a God!
Posted: Wed Aug 13, 2008 3:41 pm
by jay_a2j
packrat31306 wrote:jay_a2j wrote:packrat31306 wrote:Juan_Bottom wrote:packrat31306 wrote:i really can't believe that we are still beating this dead horse. wow
i give the athiests props though.
You never answered my questions for you, you big dummy.
It takes infinite more faith in what you believe, and you know it. Because there is absolutly no evidence to back you up. You literally make it up as you go along. Furthermore, everything you believe sounds retarded to the average ear. "T-Rex ate coconuts, chilled with Adam, and sank deep in the mud during the great flood." I give you zero props, for acting silly. Even you know that what your saying is retarded, you just want to believe it so badly that you put your common sense on hold.
I don't care though, because I can see that original bit of Athiesm growing inside of you.
packrat31306 wrote:i say it takes more faith to believe in the evolutionary theory then creation.
No it doesn't. Because we have evidence, and your side blatently lies.
packrat31306 wrote:it's much easier to say God did it because it's hard to believe that is no god
Yeah... It's a hard thing to get over. But that doesn't make it the truth.
Took me a while to finally let go, even though I had some real doubts for a while. Just like you said, it's easier to believe, and not worry about your fate. But this is also where I see you beginning to wake up.
packrat31306 wrote:it takes so much faith to believe all these things that you guys believe
No. Just no... And you know that you can see that.
packrat31306 wrote:it's like saying "i believe because i told myself it's true!" wow.
That's exactly what you are doing, and you know it. You have nothing to base your claim off of. We can dismiss anything that you throw at us. And
I have.
you have?!?!?!?!?!? question mr bottom....let's have a chat. what are ghosts?
Answer: demons.
by the way........that's incorrect.
Ya ok.
Re: Logic dictates that there is a God!
Posted: Wed Aug 13, 2008 3:42 pm
by Frigidus
packrat31306 wrote:Frigidus wrote:
Quite. The correct answer was, of course, they don't exist.
also incorrect, but i was expecting that.
Hm...hallucinations induced by hysteria perhaps? Natural phenomena attributed to the divine?
Re: Logic dictates that there is a God!
Posted: Wed Aug 13, 2008 3:44 pm
by Juan_Bottom
packrat31306 wrote:alright. to mr bottom.....what are ghosts?
Though I myself cannot be 100%, as I have never experienced one. At least not satifactorally.
I'd say a figment of your imagination. A butt-load of studies have been done on ghost creations of the mind. I myself have seen many shadow people, after trying to set the record for going the longest without sleep. I was hallucinating.
But there is a reason that you have never seen the undenyable proof of ghosts as yet. Same reason you haven't seen it from God. Ghosts aren't real.
Re: Logic dictates that there is a God!
Posted: Wed Aug 13, 2008 3:55 pm
by Snorri1234
packrat31306 wrote:Haggis_McMutton wrote:"
" Indeed
Just curious, do you believe in the theory of gravity? Or is god pushing us down through sheer will?
how did gravity come to be by itself? serious question.
Big bang.
Re: Logic dictates that there is a God!
Posted: Wed Aug 13, 2008 4:04 pm
by DAZMCFC
right Jay yoy dickhead, if you carry on spamming the "Football(Real)" thread, yur arse will be toast.
to keep on topic, God does not exist and never has. it's a load of bollocks. if indeed you beleive the Bible, then at the start we were all Inbred fuckers. i kow you have a lot of that in America already(Deliverance).
Re: Logic dictates that there is a God!
Posted: Wed Aug 13, 2008 4:06 pm
by Frigidus
DAZMCFC wrote:right Jay yoy dickhead, if you carry on spamming the "Football(Real)" thread, yur arse will be toast.
to keep on topic, God does not exist and never has. it's a load of bollocks. if indeed you beleive the Bible, then at the start we were all Inbred fuckers. i kow you have a lot of that in America already(Deliverance).
Hey, don't pin the South on us! I guess we could have let them go when they wanted to, but hindsight is 20/20.
Re: Logic dictates that there is a God!
Posted: Wed Aug 13, 2008 4:08 pm
by Juan_Bottom
DAZMCFC wrote:right Jay yoy dickhead, if you carry on spamming the "Football(Real)" thread, yur arse will be toast.
to keep on topic, God does not exist and never has. it's a load of bollocks. if indeed you beleive the Bible, then at the start we were all Inbred fuckers. i kow you have a lot of that in America already(Deliverance).
This is true. I I also am very learned about the Zombie dangers in England(Shuan of the Dead, 28 Days Later). The place seems almost uninhabitable.
Not to mention the violent street gangs roaming the cities looking for woman to gang rape (Clockwork Orange).
Re: Logic dictates that there is a God!
Posted: Wed Aug 13, 2008 4:12 pm
by DAZMCFC
Juan_Bottom wrote:DAZMCFC wrote:right Jay yoy dickhead, if you carry on spamming the "Football(Real)" thread, yur arse will be toast.
to keep on topic, God does not exist and never has. it's a load of bollocks. if indeed you beleive the Bible, then at the start we were all Inbred fuckers. i kow you have a lot of that in America already(Deliverance).
This is true. I I also am very learned about the Zombie dangers in England(Shuan of the Dead, 28 Days Later). The place seems almost uninhabitable.
Not to mention the violent street gangs roaming the cities looking for woman to gang rape (Clockwork Orange).
true stories one and all.
Re: Logic dictates that there is a God!
Posted: Wed Aug 13, 2008 4:17 pm
by jonesthecurl
Haggis_McMutton wrote:"
" Indeed
Just curious, do you believe in the theory of gravity? Or is god pushing us down through sheer will?
there is no gravity. The Earth sucks.
Re: Logic dictates that there is a God!
Posted: Wed Aug 13, 2008 4:25 pm
by Sentinel XIV
Seeing as how this looks to be the prevalent "make your beliefs about the possibility of God" thread, I'm going to make a quick statement and be done with it.
I personally have a hard time believing the Bible is more than a book created by men of power to control people. Perhaps there is an all-powerful God, or some sort of omnipotent being, but I have yet to find proof, for myself, of any such being.
For all of you believers out there, I have a question: is it possible that the beliefs of all religions are true? Do God and Shiva and Odin and Hera all co-exist together? And, if you don't believe that, then I call you hypocrite.
Re: Logic dictates that there is a God!
Posted: Wed Aug 13, 2008 4:31 pm
by Juan_Bottom
DAZMCFC wrote:Juan_Bottom wrote:DAZMCFC wrote:right Jay yoy dickhead, if you carry on spamming the "Football(Real)" thread, yur arse will be toast.
to keep on topic, God does not exist and never has. it's a load of bollocks. if indeed you beleive the Bible, then at the start we were all Inbred fuckers. i kow you have a lot of that in America already(Deliverance).
This is true. I I also am very learned about the Zombie dangers in England(Shuan of the Dead, 28 Days Later). The place seems almost uninhabitable.
Not to mention the violent street gangs roaming the cities looking for woman to gang rape (Clockwork Orange).
true stories one and all.
DAZMCFC wrote:to keep on topic, God does not exist and never has. it's a load of bollocks. if indeed you beleive the Bible, then at the start we were all Inbred fuckers. i kow you have a lot of that in America already(Deliverance).
True stories...
Sentinel XIV wrote:For all of you believers out there, I have a question: is it possible that the beliefs of all religions are true? Do God and Shiva and Odin and Hera all co-exist together? And, if you don't believe that, then I call you hypocrite.
Or a broken and confused Athiest.
The thing about Packrat is, is that he know that we do have the facts straight. He can't argue against them logically, so he dismisses them and opts for a faith alone approach.
But that is a start.