Conquer Club

I like the cleaner version of the small map, but now that you have more room, take advantage of it. Territories like Bavaria, Hungary, and Paris look weird with their name and number all scrunched up to one side.

Evil DIMwit wrote:I like the cleaner version of the small map, but now that you have more room, take advantage of it. Territories like Bavaria, Hungary, and Paris look weird with their name and number all scrunched up to one side.

Indeed. If we're gonna stick to the clean version, then I'll definitely have to rearrange things a bit

Yeti, I've tried other fonts for the center legend
(also rearranged things for the cleaner version)

does any one work better than the previous one?

Option 1#
[bigimg]http://i998.photobucket.com/albums/af105/Kabanellas/NapoleonicEurope_V36b_Image_small.png[/bigimg]

Option 2#
[bigimg]http://i998.photobucket.com/albums/af105/Kabanellas/NapoleonicEurope_V36_Image_small.png[/bigimg]

#1 looks really cool but #2 is more legible.

holy shit, this just exploded my eyeballs

[bigimg]http://i998.photobucket.com/albums/af105/Kabanellas/NapoleonicEurope_V35_Image_small_n_.png[/bigimg]


I wish there was a way to toggle the territory names on and off and maybe some extra space for a legend somewhere, then this would be a playable map.

natty_dread wrote:#1 looks really cool but #2 is more legible.

still not sure if those are better options than this first one....

[bigimg]http://i998.photobucket.com/albums/af105/Kabanellas/NapoleonicEurope_V35_Image_small_nt.png[/bigimg]

Kabanellas wrote:Ender there are a ‘couple’ of numbers that need to be changed.

[spoiler=Changes]Large map:
1 left
• Oporto
• Valencia
2 left
• Yorkshire
3 left and 1 down
• London

Small map:
1 left
• Extremadura
• Valencia
• Sussex
• Denmark
• Naples
• Warsaw
• Serbia
• Krakow
2 left
• Silesia
4 left
• Berlin
5 left
• Switzerland
1 up
• Scotland
• Stockholm
• Malmo
2 up
• West Prussia
1 up and 1 left
• Moscow
• East Prussia
1 up and 1 left
• Paris
1 up and 3 left
• Madrid
1 up and 1 right
• Yorkshire
4 up and 1 left
• Egypt
8 down and 1 right
• Aquitaine[/spoiler]

I have to say that at first I was surprised at how far off some of these were. Then I realised that you were working from V.35 of the small map, where you had moved a few things. Is there a V.35 of the large map? I have produced a new version of the XML: Napoleonic_Europe_V1.2.xml, which includes precisely the shifts you have specified above. Based on the way you organized the list, I did wonder if you meant for Paris to be 1 up and 2 left, but I have stuck to the letter of your instructions for now, and nothing is final yet, obviously. If you could make sure the first post has the current images linked to it, I can double check this stuff and maybe post some 88 and 888 tests. I know I spent a long time trying to put those numbers in the centre of those nice opaque white ovals, and it may seem a little proud, but I am surprised that there were any fixes to be made, especially more than a pixel in any direction. If you have time, a set of the latest versions of the maps with those opaque ovals again would be helpful to me. Maybe if you sent them by PM, we can avoid confusing people like natty again, since he thought that we intended to use the maps with those "holes punched in them". He would surely figure it out this time, but no doubt someone new will drop by and wonder.

Are you gonna leave the bonus region names off? Hope not. It helps to have em on the map.

Just noticed something. Worth a look at for historical and game play purposes.

A connection between Sardinia and Rome.

these guys may have enough names.... this map may be like a really really great movie that the director is forced to cut to get under 2 and a half hours in length.

Kabanellas wrote:

natty_dread wrote:#1 looks really cool but #2 is more legible.

still not sure if those are better options than this first one....

[bigimg]http://i998.photobucket.com/albums/af105/Kabanellas/NapoleonicEurope_V35_Image_small_nt.png[/bigimg]

this one is more legible
maybe adding a bit of white glow ?!

Yeah - I'm with Pamoa - that one is "easier" to read - not sure it's easy enough though... the other ones just fuzz...

I'm thinking that it's the Italics that are not helping.

C.

yeti_c wrote:Yeah - I'm with Pamoa - that one is "easier" to read - not sure it's easy enough though... the other ones just fuzz...

I'm thinking that it's the Italics that are not helping.

C.

That Pristina font is like that... it's not in italic mode. I could try that glow suggestion from Pamoa and see how it looks.....

updated version - I've added a bit of glow to the pristina font also changed some levels there

I think its quite readable now

[bigimg]http://i998.photobucket.com/albums/af105/Kabanellas/NapoleonicEurope_V36c_Image_small.png[/bigimg]

You know, i used the font in Option 1 on the small version of 13 Colonies, someone complained they couldn't read it once it was in Beta testing so that might be a good sign.

Industrial Helix wrote:You know, i used the font in Option 1 on the small version of 13 Colonies, someone complained they couldn't read it once it was in Beta testing so that might be a good sign.

Yes I'm dropping that option as well and keeping the Pristina font - I think its cool now.

[bigimg]http://i998.photobucket.com/albums/af105/Kabanellas/NapoleonicEurope_V36c_Image_small.png[/bigimg]

Kab,
About the legend problem, I really think that it is more the background image rather than the font. With the text over the image, the image is not really legeble anyway, so, why don't you just try using a simple texture instead, like the other legend next to it ?

I think the lower left legend is fairly legible, even with the image, which admittedly is mostly obscured. Of course, I have been looking at this a long time, so I may be a poor judge.

ender516 wrote:I think the lower left legend is fairly legible, even with the image, which admittedly is mostly obscured. Of course, I have been looking at this a long time, so I may be a poor judge.

I have not, so I can honestly tell you that I can not make out the picture at all.

porkenbeans wrote:

ender516 wrote:I think the lower left legend is fairly legible, even with the image, which admittedly is mostly obscured. Of course, I have been looking at this a long time, so I may be a poor judge.

I have not, so I can honestly tell you that I can not make out the picture at all.

Oh, I thought the concern was about the legibility of the text. You're right, the picture is almost a lost cause, but I do recognize it as a reproduction of a fairly famous painting of Napoleon and his troops. If you aren't familiar with that, it might be impossible to make out.

ender516 wrote:

porkenbeans wrote:

ender516 wrote:I think the lower left legend is fairly legible, even with the image, which admittedly is mostly obscured. Of course, I have been looking at this a long time, so I may be a poor judge.

I have not, so I can honestly tell you that I can not make out the picture at all.

Oh, I thought the concern was about the legibility of the text. You're right, the picture is almost a lost cause, but I do recognize it as a reproduction of a fairly famous painting of Napoleon and his troops. If you aren't familiar with that, it might be impossible to make out.

The picture is faded out in an attempt to make the text legible. Which it does not quite do, because the text is still not very legible. And now the picture is also unrecognizable. Just nix the picture, and replace it with something that you can see the text over. It might be a nice image, but what good is it if you can't see it ?

Kab,
If you are stuck on using the picture, You may try this.- Bring the picture back into focus. Make it dark, and use white text over it.

I agree, the picture should go.

ok, I'll try something there....

Kab,

I LIKE the picture. I think the text is quite clear. There MUST be a limit to all this bull. I DO NOT want the pic changed!

R.

Raskholnikov wrote:Kab,

I LIKE the picture. I think the text is quite clear. There MUST be a limit to all this bull. I DO NOT want the pic changed!

R.

Frankly, I agree with every statement here, but I'm not as upset. That's probably because I do not have as much invested in this.

Thanks ender. I'm glad I'm not the only one who is of this opinion. And thanks again for all your work on coding. You deserve one of the two map medals for sticking with us on this (the other one goes to Kab, of course. I'll just be happy to see this out of the foundry before it gets totally demolished...)