Conquer Club

Pack Rat wrote:More nonsense from our MAGA Queen.

jusplay4fun wrote:

Pack Rat wrote:More nonsense from our MAGA Queen.

Obviously p-rat does not comprehend the issues regarding illegal immigration. Unless he has an intelligent response here, there is no need for me to respond to his continued drivel.

Note what he has criticized:

1) I copy and paste too much.

2) When I point out WHY I copied and pasted here in this thread, he now claims that I post nonsense.

3) When you cannot confront the issue(s) with facts, blame and attack the person who posts the facts. Try odious insults as refutation.

4) Conclusion: His recent responses are ineffective, not true, and are thus impotent. Therefore, I need not respond to him any further in this thread.

combat against facts.

jusplay4fun wrote:Wow, p-rat must now be really upset since he had to use BOLD, Italicized, and HUGE font. This is another SAD, Pathetic and Impotent Response from Mr. Word Salad. Try again, p-rat. One day you may get lucky and actually post a semi-intelligent response.

It does not address the issues I presented on the weaknesses of the border bill. It simply does little to reverse the FLOOD that Biden unleashed. ALERT: The horses are OUT of the Barn.

combat against facts.

?? You mean when I set the record STRAIGHT to refute your falsehoods? with well-documented facts from reputable sources? That is you weak response? What can I say? hmmm..... Let me say that this response is impuissant.

Pack Rat wrote:

jusplay4fun wrote:Wow, p-rat must now be really upset since he had to use BOLD, Italicized, and HUGE font. This is another SAD, Pathetic and Impotent Response from Mr. Word Salad. Try again, p-rat. One day you may get lucky and actually post a semi-intelligent response.

It does not address the issues I presented on the weaknesses of the border bill. It simply does little to reverse the FLOOD that Biden unleashed. ALERT: The horses are OUT of the Barn.

combat against facts.

?? You mean when I set the record STRAIGHT to refute your falsehoods? with well-documented facts from reputable sources? That is you weak response? What can I say? hmmm..... Let me say that this response is impuissant.

I'm just concerned with not only your MAGA illness, but your eye sight. Did you not listen to mom and what excess masterbation can do to your vision?

HitRed wrote:I got to meet the Ambassador to _____ and he said the open border is ruining coffee plantations in central and south America. Coffee production relies heavily on manual labor.

Biden said he’d take another stab at a border bill — but nothing appears in the works (...)

But, in reality, there’s been no behind-the-scenes jockeying from the White House to restart talks, in part because the White House believes that the migration crisis has temporarily stabilized, with illegal border crossings dipping again in March to 137,000. (...)

The administration has been crafting an executive action that would include using a section of the Immigration and Nationality Act to bar migrants from seeking asylum in between U.S. ports of entry. Like the border legislation, the directive would likely be tied to a trigger, coming into effect after a certain number of illegal crossings took place, said the five people close to the administration. The order would also make it more difficult for migrants to pass the initial screening for seeking asylum, as well as ways to quickly deport those who don’t meet those elevated asylum standards.

Border crossings dropped by 50 percent in January and have since remained stable, creating a belief among administration officials that the president has more space to deal with the issue. Increased enforcement on the Mexican side of the border, which began after Biden administration officials traveled to meet with counterparts in December, has helped alleviate some of the political pressure in the U.S.

Biden’s Lawless Mass Amnesty

President Joe Biden announces a new effort to allow immigrants in the U.S. illegally to obtain legal status if they are married to U.S. citizens, at the White House in Washington, D.C., June 18, 2024.

Introducing his latest “immigration relief” policy at the White House yesterday, President Biden told the assembled crowd that the changes he was making had been considered by Congress and had “passed.” Then, correcting himself, he conceded that this was not true. Rather, he admitted, he was announcing yet another “executive order.”

That Biden chose the twelfth anniversary of DACA to promulgate his alterations is fitting. Indeed, all that was missing was a commemorative sign that read, “Twelve years of ignoring the Constitution.” The creation of DACA, you may recall, was marked by President Barack Obama’s astonishing insistence that “if Congress won’t act, I will.” Prior to its announcement, Obama had explained frequently that he did not have the power to rewrite immigration law on the fly. “I am not a king,” Obama said often. “I am not an emperor.” But, with a tough reelection fight looming, he forgot all that and did it anyway. Civically, this represented a low moment in American history. That President Biden aspires to celebrate it — let alone to build on it — is damning in the extreme.

Alas, that, undoubtedly, is his aim. Adopting his decreasingly persuasive tough-guy pose, Biden told the audience, “Folks, I’m not interested in playing politics with the border or with immigration.” Considered from any angle, this was a disgraceful thing to say. For a start, Joe Biden has, in fact, “played politics” with the border, and he did so again in this speech when he pretended preposterously that it was “Trump and the Republicans” — rather than the progressive wing of his coalition — who were standing in the way of his ability to deal with the problem. Tellingly, Biden has now tried to have this issue both ways in the space of six months. Earlier this year, Biden claimed that he could not enforce existing immigration law without further input from Congress. Last month, he reversed himself and then demanded credit for doing a small part of the job he was supposed to have been doing all along.

More broadly, though, “politics” is precisely what has been missing from this White House’s approach to immigration. Like Barack Obama before him, President Biden seems to believe that Congress is not the sole repository of all the federal government’s legislative powers but is instead an advice bureau that can be consulted when the executive feels like it. President Biden did not consult Congress when he decided to open up the border, and he has not consulted Congress now that he has decided to pursue a mass amnesty. For better or for worse, Congress has already set out the rules in this area, and, for better or for worse, those rules are binding on the president. Per Section 212(d)(5) of the Immigration and Nationality Act (INA), the parole of otherwise-inadmissible aliens may not be granted on a blanket basis, but case-by-case — or, in extreme circumstances, on urgent humanitarian grounds. Being down in the polls clearly does not qualify, and neither does a desperate desire to earn “more support from Latino voters.” Confirmation of this can be found in Article II.

jusplay4fun wrote:More incompetence, more illegal acts, and more politics of desperation by Biden is documented here:

Biden’s Lawless Mass Amnesty

President Joe Biden announces a new effort to allow immigrants in the U.S. illegally to obtain legal status if they are married to U.S. citizens, at the White House in Washington, D.C., June 18, 2024.

Introducing his latest “immigration relief” policy at the White House yesterday, President Biden told the assembled crowd that the changes he was making had been considered by Congress and had “passed.” Then, correcting himself, he conceded that this was not true. Rather, he admitted, he was announcing yet another “executive order.”

That Biden chose the twelfth anniversary of DACA to promulgate his alterations is fitting. Indeed, all that was missing was a commemorative sign that read, “Twelve years of ignoring the Constitution.” The creation of DACA, you may recall, was marked by President Barack Obama’s astonishing insistence that “if Congress won’t act, I will.” Prior to its announcement, Obama had explained frequently that he did not have the power to rewrite immigration law on the fly. “I am not a king,” Obama said often. “I am not an emperor.” But, with a tough reelection fight looming, he forgot all that and did it anyway. Civically, this represented a low moment in American history. That President Biden aspires to celebrate it — let alone to build on it — is damning in the extreme.

Alas, that, undoubtedly, is his aim. Adopting his decreasingly persuasive tough-guy pose, Biden told the audience, “Folks, I’m not interested in playing politics with the border or with immigration.” Considered from any angle, this was a disgraceful thing to say. For a start, Joe Biden has, in fact, “played politics” with the border, and he did so again in this speech when he pretended preposterously that it was “Trump and the Republicans” — rather than the progressive wing of his coalition — who were standing in the way of his ability to deal with the problem. Tellingly, Biden has now tried to have this issue both ways in the space of six months. Earlier this year, Biden claimed that he could not enforce existing immigration law without further input from Congress. Last month, he reversed himself and then demanded credit for doing a small part of the job he was supposed to have been doing all along.

More broadly, though, “politics” is precisely what has been missing from this White House’s approach to immigration. Like Barack Obama before him, President Biden seems to believe that Congress is not the sole repository of all the federal government’s legislative powers but is instead an advice bureau that can be consulted when the executive feels like it. President Biden did not consult Congress when he decided to open up the border, and he has not consulted Congress now that he has decided to pursue a mass amnesty. For better or for worse, Congress has already set out the rules in this area, and, for better or for worse, those rules are binding on the president. Per Section 212(d)(5) of the Immigration and Nationality Act (INA), the parole of otherwise-inadmissible aliens may not be granted on a blanket basis, but case-by-case — or, in extreme circumstances, on urgent humanitarian grounds. Being down in the polls clearly does not qualify, and neither does a desperate desire to earn “more support from Latino voters.” Confirmation of this can be found in Article II.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics ... b3e9&ei=37

and who is the THREAT to Democracy..??

Pack Rat wrote:Quite the conspiracy!

Migrants arrested in killing of 12-year-old girl, police say

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Authorities say two undocumented migrants from Venezuela are under arrest in the killing of a 12-year-old girl in Houston. It was the latest example of undocumented immigrants arrested for violent crimes. But studies show immigrants are less likely to commit crimes than citizens. NBC News' Gabe Gutierrez reports.

Migrant in US illegally was previously deported prior to allegedly killing woman: ICE
Victor Antonio Martinez-Hernandez is suspected in the death of Rachel Morin.

"On June 14, officers from the Tulsa, Oklahoma, police department and agents from the FBI arrested Victor Antonio Martinez-Hernandez, a 23-year-old unlawfully present Salvadoran national wanted by authorities in Harford County, Maryland, for the Aug. 6, 2023, murder of Rachel Morin. U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement lodged an immigration detainer against Martinez-Hernandez with the Tulsa County Jail June 15, 2024," ICE Spokesperson James Covington said in a statement.

jusplay4fun wrote:Crimes by migrants to the USA:

Migrants arrested in killing of 12-year-old girl, police say

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Authorities say two undocumented migrants from Venezuela are under arrest in the killing of a 12-year-old girl in Houston. It was the latest example of undocumented immigrants arrested for violent crimes. But studies show immigrants are less likely to commit crimes than citizens. NBC News' Gabe Gutierrez reports.

https://www.nbcnews.com/nightly-news/vi ... 3474885562

Migrant in US illegally was previously deported prior to allegedly killing woman: ICE
Victor Antonio Martinez-Hernandez is suspected in the death of Rachel Morin.

"On June 14, officers from the Tulsa, Oklahoma, police department and agents from the FBI arrested Victor Antonio Martinez-Hernandez, a 23-year-old unlawfully present Salvadoran national wanted by authorities in Harford County, Maryland, for the Aug. 6, 2023, murder of Rachel Morin. U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement lodged an immigration detainer against Martinez-Hernandez with the Tulsa County Jail June 15, 2024," ICE Spokesperson James Covington said in a statement.

https://abcnews.go.com/US/migrant-us-il ... =111296249