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Re: [CL4] Phase Two - Division 1

Posted: Sun Jul 01, 2012 5:43 pm
by betiko
Leehar wrote:
denthefrog wrote:medals?
i dont think anybody in kort was aware of geting medals for phase 2
nice surprise

lol, and you guys came up with the format :P
Yup, each phase 2 winner Division winner gets a medal.

Kinda weird tho, because all we'd have had to do was purposefully do worse for our Phase 1 results, and get an easier shot at 2 sets of medals for phase 2 and 4 wins in a lower division.
Thankfully I don't think that was in anyone's mind, but it does seem a bit nonsensical and bears looking into for future seasons.

Totally agree, medal attributions make no sense in cl4. Winner of div 5 gets rewarded but second of div 1 doesn t... No logic at all! Also, you end up playing over 100 games with a completely positive record, a div 4 winner is most likely in negatives... A fair thing would be to reward the 4 advancing in div 1, the 3 first ones advancing in div 2 and so on... I believe making it to phase 3 in div 1 is an acheivement but apparently not. Beating one of the worse ranked clans in cc3 s first round in 41 games is considered as an acheivement deserving a medal though

Re: [CL4] Phase Two - Division 1

Posted: Sun Jul 01, 2012 5:51 pm
by Qwert
well i think that now its all clear,consider that emp have two tie results(6-6 against KORT and TSm) and that IA will win against TSM,and AOC will lost against PACk, so 4th teams move to next stage.

-KORT-10
-PACK-8
-EMP-8
-IA-8
---------

Re: [CL4] Phase Two - Division 1

Posted: Sun Jul 01, 2012 7:52 pm
by ahunda
qwert wrote:well i think that now its all clear,consider that emp have two tie results(6-6 against KORT and TSm) and that IA will win against TSM,and AOC will lost against PACk, so 4th teams move to next stage.

-KORT-10
-PACK-8
-EMP-8
-IA-8
---------

Erm, no. If we win against TSM (and it looks like it), we´ll be at 7 points. And then it will all come down to that Conquer Rome Quad against AOC.

If we win that one, we´ll be at 8 points and AOC at 6 (and us going through to next round, I think). If AOC wins it, we´ll both be at 7 points, and they´ll probably have the better win% and go through then. And that game is absolutely not decided.

And now I haven´t even looked into TOFU, who - I believe - are still in the race too ?

Re: [CL4] Phase Two - Division 1

Posted: Sun Jul 01, 2012 11:20 pm
by Bruceswar
ahunda wrote:
qwert wrote:well i think that now its all clear,consider that emp have two tie results(6-6 against KORT and TSm) and that IA will win against TSM,and AOC will lost against PACk, so 4th teams move to next stage.

-KORT-10
-PACK-8
-EMP-8
-IA-8
---------

Erm, no. If we win against TSM (and it looks like it), we´ll be at 7 points. And then it will all come down to that Conquer Rome Quad against AOC.

If we win that one, we´ll be at 8 points and AOC at 6 (and us going through to next round, I think). If AOC wins it, we´ll both be at 7 points, and they´ll probably have the better win% and go through then. And that game is absolutely not decided.

And now I haven´t even looked into TOFU, who - I believe - are still in the race too ?



TOFU is out. They got eliminated some time back.

Re: [CL4] Phase Two - Division 1

Posted: Mon Jul 02, 2012 6:23 am
by Chariot of Fire
Not true Bruce. We could feasibly finish on 8pts if we win our 2 active games vs AFOS. That's looking highly unlikely though. However, with the dice that CC serves up nowadays we're not ruling it out. It would leave us having won 3 and drawn 2. As it looks though I expect we will finish with won 2 drawn 3 (7pts).

Re: [CL4] Phase Two - Division 1

Posted: Mon Jul 02, 2012 6:36 am
by Qwert
ahunda wrote:
qwert wrote:well i think that now its all clear,consider that emp have two tie results(6-6 against KORT and TSm) and that IA will win against TSM,and AOC will lost against PACk, so 4th teams move to next stage.

-KORT-10
-PACK-8
-EMP-8
-IA-8
---------

Erm, no. If we win against TSM (and it looks like it), we´ll be at 7 points. And then it will all come down to that Conquer Rome Quad against AOC.

If we win that one, we´ll be at 8 points and AOC at 6 (and us going through to next round, I think). If AOC wins it, we´ll both be at 7 points, and they´ll probably have the better win% and go through then. And that game is absolutely not decided.

And now I haven´t even looked into TOFU, who - I believe - are still in the race too ?

yes,you right, Conquer rome are decision game. At this moment i give advantage to IA in Conquer Rome.
Any way,who win this game will move to next stage.

Re: [CL4] Phase Two - Division 1

Posted: Mon Jul 02, 2012 6:57 am
by lord voldemort
Tofu are out of the race..Dont kid yourself Si.
Its entirely down to that Conquer Rome I believe for the last spot.
Either way its apparent any of these 8 clans can beat each other on any given day

Re: [CL4] Phase Two - Division 1

Posted: Mon Jul 02, 2012 8:40 am
by Chariot of Fire
lord voldemort wrote:Tofu are out of the race..Dont kid yourself Si.
Its entirely down to that Conquer Rome I believe for the last spot.
Either way its apparent any of these 8 clans can beat each other on any given day


Don't worry mate, I'm not kidding myself. This is why I've said we will likely finish on 7pts. However, when someone says "TOFU were out of the race a long time ago" it simply isn't true. We could still qualify, unfeasible as it may seem now, and two days ago the odds for us were even better (just fortune didn't smile on us in one particular game).

Greece in the quarter finals of the Euros? No chance. They still got there though didn't they. So no-one should ever say never - not while it's still mathematically possible.

Re: [CL4] Phase Two - Division 1

Posted: Mon Jul 02, 2012 7:09 pm
by skillfull
Chariot of Fire wrote:
lord voldemort wrote:Tofu are out of the race..Dont kid yourself Si.
Its entirely down to that Conquer Rome I believe for the last spot.
Either way its apparent any of these 8 clans can beat each other on any given day




Greece in the quarter finals of the Euros? No chance. They still got there though didn't they. So no-one should ever say never - not while it's still mathematically possible.

hehe! That's right cof

Re: [CL4] Phase Two - Division 1

Posted: Tue Jul 03, 2012 1:08 am
by jetsetwilly
ahunda wrote:
qwert wrote:well i think that now its all clear,consider that emp have two tie results(6-6 against KORT and TSm) and that IA will win against TSM,and AOC will lost against PACk, so 4th teams move to next stage.

-KORT-10
-PACK-8
-EMP-8
-IA-8
---------

Erm, no. If we win against TSM (and it looks like it), we´ll be at 7 points. And then it will all come down to that Conquer Rome Quad against AOC.

If we win that one, we´ll be at 8 points and AOC at 6 (and us going through to next round, I think). If AOC wins it, we´ll both be at 7 points, and they´ll probably have the better win% and go through then. And that game is absolutely not decided.

And now I haven´t even looked into TOFU, who - I believe - are still in the race too ?



AOC win/loss would end up as Won 44 Lost 40. IA would be 42/42 ?

Re: [CL4] Phase Two - Division 1

Posted: Tue Jul 03, 2012 9:59 am
by josko.ri
[player]Leehar[/player] from EMP asked me on msn "Do you think you can wall any of my clan mates to warn them about my turns?
" so empire guys please watch for him in his apsence.

Re: [CL4] Phase Two - Division 1

Posted: Tue Jul 03, 2012 10:04 am
by The Voice
josko.ri wrote:[player]Leehar[/player] from EMP asked me on msn "Do you think you can wall any of my clan mates to warn them about my turns?
" so empire guys please watch for him in his apsence.


Gotcha, thanks bud.

Re: [CL4] Phase Two - Division 1

Posted: Tue Jul 03, 2012 10:43 am
by Leehar
Thanks Josko and skill!
jetsetwilly wrote:
ahunda wrote:
qwert wrote:well i think that now its all clear,consider that emp have two tie results(6-6 against KORT and TSm) and that IA will win against TSM,and AOC will lost against PACk, so 4th teams move to next stage.

-KORT-10
-PACK-8
-EMP-8
-IA-8
---------

Erm, no. If we win against TSM (and it looks like it), we´ll be at 7 points. And then it will all come down to that Conquer Rome Quad against AOC.

If we win that one, we´ll be at 8 points and AOC at 6 (and us going through to next round, I think). If AOC wins it, we´ll both be at 7 points, and they´ll probably have the better win% and go through then. And that game is absolutely not decided.

And now I haven´t even looked into TOFU, who - I believe - are still in the race too ?



AOC win/loss would end up as Won 44 Lost 40. IA would be 42/42 ?

Is the 7 points IA already have, including the 1 from the 6 games already won against AoC?

Re: [CL4] Phase Two - Division 1

Posted: Tue Jul 03, 2012 11:29 am
by Chariot of Fire
"Do you think you can wall any of my clan mates to warn them about my turns?"


What, like "Watch out guys, Leehar's playing a turn!" ;-)

Re: [CL4] Phase Two - Division 1

Posted: Tue Jul 03, 2012 1:56 pm
by jetsetwilly
Leehar wrote:Thanks Josko and skill!
jetsetwilly wrote:
ahunda wrote:
qwert wrote:well i think that now its all clear,consider that emp have two tie results(6-6 against KORT and TSm) and that IA will win against TSM,and AOC will lost against PACk, so 4th teams move to next stage.

-KORT-10
-PACK-8
-EMP-8
-IA-8
---------

Erm, no. If we win against TSM (and it looks like it), we´ll be at 7 points. And then it will all come down to that Conquer Rome Quad against AOC.

If we win that one, we´ll be at 8 points and AOC at 6 (and us going through to next round, I think). If AOC wins it, we´ll both be at 7 points, and they´ll probably have the better win% and go through then. And that game is absolutely not decided.

And now I haven´t even looked into TOFU, who - I believe - are still in the race too ?



AOC win/loss would end up as Won 44 Lost 40. IA would be 42/42 ?

Is the 7 points IA already have, including the 1 from the 6 games already won against AoC?


Yes, so they have 1 point in the bag to put them on 7. Beating us in Conquer Rome takes them to 8 points and puts them straight through.

Re: SCORE UPDATE

Posted: Thu Jul 05, 2012 12:23 pm
by tokle
Round 1:
PACK 8-4 TOFU
AOC 5-6 IA
AFOS 5-7 EMP
TSM 5-7 KORT

Round 2:
IA 5-7 PACK
EMP 5-7 TOFU
KORT 7-5 AOC
TSM 4-8 AFOS

Round 3:
PACK 4-8 EMP
IA 4-8 KORT
TOFU 5-6 TSM
AOC 8-4 AFOS

Round 4:
KORT 7-5 PACK
TSM 6-6 EMP
AFOS 4-7 IA
AOC 4-7 TOFU

Round 5:
PACK 4-8 TSM
KORT 5-7 AFOS
EMP 4-7 AOC
IA 8-4 TOFU

Round 6:
AFOS 2-10 PACK
AOC 7-4 TSM
TOFU 5-6 KORT
IA 4-8 EMP

Round 7:
PACK 6-5 AOC
AFOS 5-5 TOFU
TSM 4-6 IA
KORT 6-5 EMP

Re: [CL4] Phase Two - Division 1

Posted: Fri Jul 06, 2012 3:48 am
by Teflon Kris
Scores and table updated although updated table not yet showing for some photo-bucket-related reason. :roll:

Feel free to wall me any updated scores that come in before the Age of Aquarius.

;)

Re: [CL4] Phase Two - Division 1

Posted: Sat Jul 07, 2012 2:22 am
by lord voldemort
Use imgur. Much better ;)

Re: [CL4] Phase Two - Division 1

Posted: Sat Jul 07, 2012 3:05 pm
by PROFITS
jetsetwilly wrote:
Leehar wrote:Thanks Josko and skill!
jetsetwilly wrote:
ahunda wrote:
qwert wrote:well i think that now its all clear,consider that emp have two tie results(6-6 against KORT and TSm) and that IA will win against TSM,and AOC will lost against PACk, so 4th teams move to next stage.

-KORT-10
-PACK-8
-EMP-8
-IA-8
---------

Erm, no. If we win against TSM (and it looks like it), we´ll be at 7 points. And then it will all come down to that Conquer Rome Quad against AOC.

If we win that one, we´ll be at 8 points and AOC at 6 (and us going through to next round, I think). If AOC wins it, we´ll both be at 7 points, and they´ll probably have the better win% and go through then. And that game is absolutely not decided.

And now I haven´t even looked into TOFU, who - I believe - are still in the race too ?



AOC win/loss would end up as Won 44 Lost 40. IA would be 42/42 ?

Is the 7 points IA already have, including the 1 from the 6 games already won against AoC?


Yes, so they have 1 point in the bag to put them on 7. Beating us in Conquer Rome takes them to 8 points and puts them straight through.


Mathematically, we can still tie aoc with a loss in conquer rome, winning 2 games we are losing, and aoc losing 1 game (waterloo). this would put us both at 7 pts and 43 win record. the odds of us coming back in vancouver vs tsm and stalingrad vs afos are slim to none though. plus aoc seems to be slightly ahead in waterloo vs tofu imo. So it's safe to say conquer rome is do or die for aoc and ia.

Re: [CL4] Phase Two - Division 1

Posted: Wed Jul 11, 2012 2:54 pm
by Teflon Kris
Scores and table updated.

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Re: [CL4] Phase Two - Division 1

Posted: Wed Jul 11, 2012 9:09 pm
by lord voldemort
I just want the next round to start already

Re: [CL4] Phase Two - Division 1

Posted: Thu Jul 12, 2012 7:02 am
by Leehar
Conquer Rome is holding us up I think ;)
Can't decide 3rd/4th without it, and it's been going since the first week!

Re: [CL4] Phase Two - Division 1

Posted: Thu Jul 12, 2012 8:07 am
by lord voldemort
Leehar wrote:Conquer Rome is holding us up I think ;)
Can't decide 3rd/4th without it, and it's been going since the first week!

Wait so is the top 4 actually decided...or are we deciding 4-5/6th?

Re: [CL4] Phase Two - Division 1

Posted: Thu Jul 12, 2012 8:14 am
by ahunda
KORT, PACK & EMP are through.

IA & AOC battling over 4th spot.

Re: [CL4] Phase Two - Division 1

Posted: Thu Jul 12, 2012 8:21 am
by Leehar
Yup whoops, 4th/5th!

If IA win Conquer Rome, they join us and Pack on 8 points; if AoC win, they join IA on 7 points and adv due to WP?