Conquer Club

Iron Butterfly wrote:I am Cop. marashu is scum.

Dakky I want you to explain why I am not the cop.

It's a gut feeling. You could be insane Cop or have another modifier.

Iron Butterfly wrote:Marashu may be mafia but I want full discussion or at least for everyone to say what they need to say.

You said yourself... MAY BE. You didn't said he IS. That's why I have a feeling.

I don't think IB would do everything he did if he were scum.

So if he's insane cop then tough luck for us. We'll find out one way or another.

I have no choice but to believe dakky.. so we'll just keep playing like this with a townie who is lynchproof and has done nothing with his role. It's not like we have a choice. Anyway his answer means I don't have to change my mind.

So I'm gonna believe IB and Vote Marashu.

Marashu wrote:First, just want to say that I'm heading out of town right after work tomorrow and get home sometime Sunday, so I won't be able to post at day start.

Unvote guys.

dakky21 wrote:

Iron Butterfly wrote:I am Cop. marashu is scum.

Dakky I want you to explain why I am not the cop.

It's a gut feeling. You could be insane Cop or have another modifier.

Iron Butterfly wrote:Marashu may be mafia but I want full discussion or at least for everyone to say what they need to say.

You said yourself... MAY BE. You didn't said he IS. That's why I have a feeling.

Since it's only a gut feeling, I'll believe a claimed cop over you. I'll wait until marashu gets back to defend himself before voting for him though.

marashu - metsfanmax, Tim Woodbury, Bujaber

5 votes needed for a lynch.

dakky21 wrote:

Iron Butterfly wrote:I am Cop. marashu is scum.

Dakky I want you to explain why I am not the cop.

It's a gut feeling. You could be insane Cop or have another modifier.

Iron Butterfly wrote:Marashu may be mafia but I want full discussion or at least for everyone to say what they need to say.

You said yourself... MAY BE. You didn't said he IS. That's why I have a feeling.

May be is not the same as Maybe. Cmon use your head will you Dakky?

And to make it CLEAR

Marushu IS Mafia

BuJaber wrote:Well I'm guessing he protected N1's scum target from getting killed and now we'll never know who it was.

Mets suspected IB and vice versa... interesting. Don't know who to believe.

Hotshot might be a good person to lynch actually. I'll re read some stuff and build a case.

question Bujaber why do you say he protected the N1 scum target from being killed, N1 ptlowe was killed.

regarding IB's claim, i'm inclined to believe his claim, also i doubt he is anything other than a regular cop, if he wasn't a regular cop he should know about it by now, N1 he investigated rag, who we know is town, n2 he investigated marashu who is scum. that gives him two results so he should know what kind of cop he is. if he were an insane cop the results would have been switched, ie rag would have given a scum result and marashu an innocent result, since rag is town, he knows he is insane and all innocent results mean scum, paranoid cop would have given a guilty result both nights, he knows rag is town so he knows he is paranoid and he wouldn't have said marashu is scum. naive cop he would have gotten an innocent result both times, and he wouldn't have said marashu is scum.

unvote for now at WCG's request since Marashu cannot comment yet

It's obviously always a possibility that IB is an insane cop or something. But unless we have a completely solid reason to ignore his result, we lynch Marashu and then deal with the situation afterward if Marashu does not flip scum. dakky's hunch is not enough to go on there.

The other possibility is something weird like that IB is a lyncher, but this can't bother us either, I don't care if IB wins, I just care if town wins.

I also need to clarify for the record that I have no proof Mets is scum. My reasoning for posting last night in hindsight was silly. I got paranoid about surviving the night and put myself out there. Part of my reasoning was that with all the role Town seems to have and Mitch flipping vanilla goon it makes sense that Mafia would have a God Father role. I nailed Mitch by narrowing down my pool of who I think is mafia and what was the best choice. Then my head went to what if land.

Now part of this post IS a Mia Culpa to Mets as that if he is Town I would be pissed at my reasoning. BUT that hammer certainly did Mets no favors either.

I did however misinterpret his post on Gregwolf and his logic does make sense. I thought he was trying to throw me under the bus while he was actually questioning Gregwolf.

I also forgot a third line of reasoning....Mafia may have left me alive because they believed the focus would be on Mets because of me.

Just needed to set record straight.

I'll add on to that:

I am pretty sure the remaining mafia is amongst, IronButterfly, Marashu, Metsfanmax, Gregswolf and Hotshot.

It appears the first two names on that list are resolving themselves today. (I'll lean heavily on IB being the town of the pair for obvious reasons)

Dakky, reread your question to me. If I am town, then my answer is meaningless as that situation doesnt occur. If I am scum, then my answer is meaningless as I wouldnt necessarily tell the truth. Still want me to answer?

I know I am dead but if anyone is interested this story line is on netflicks, it is called gunpowder,treason and plot and it is quite good,sorry for talking, good luck all.

Okay Wing... Unvote


Greg I had another theory when I wrote that. It had to do with dakky having an odd role and killing ptlowe. It's not relevant any more.

WingCmdr Ginkapo wrote:What I will say, this does probably make Tim town. I'm not going to explain why.

WingCmdr Ginkapo wrote:Dakky, reread your question to me. If I am town, then my answer is meaningless as that situation doesnt occur. If I am scum, then my answer is meaningless as I wouldnt necessarily tell the truth. Still want me to answer?

You confirmed Tim as town without saying WHY in the first place and why you didn't want to say your reasons for it. Reminds me of me, day or two before. While I know I'm town, I want to hear your reasons why you know Tim is town and why you won't say your reasons. I think you're some kind of 3rd party vig and you didn't try to shoot anyone yet and that's why Tim didn't get any results.

dakky21 wrote:

WingCmdr Ginkapo wrote:What I will say, this does probably make Tim town. I'm not going to explain why.

WingCmdr Ginkapo wrote:Dakky, reread your question to me. If I am town, then my answer is meaningless as that situation doesnt occur. If I am scum, then my answer is meaningless as I wouldnt necessarily tell the truth. Still want me to answer?

You confirmed Tim as town without saying WHY in the first place and why you didn't want to say your reasons for it. Reminds me of me, day or two before. While I know I'm town, I want to hear your reasons why you know Tim is town and why you won't say your reasons. I think you're some kind of 3rd party vig and you didn't try to shoot anyone yet and that's why Tim didn't get any results.

What is this Dakky?

Mafia is about trust. You either trust me or you dont.

dakky21 wrote:

WingCmdr Ginkapo wrote:What I will say, this does probably make Tim town. I'm not going to explain why.

WingCmdr Ginkapo wrote:Dakky, reread your question to me. If I am town, then my answer is meaningless as that situation doesnt occur. If I am scum, then my answer is meaningless as I wouldnt necessarily tell the truth. Still want me to answer?

You confirmed Tim as town without saying WHY in the first place and why you didn't want to say your reasons for it. Reminds me of me, day or two before. While I know I'm town, I want to hear your reasons why you know Tim is town and why you won't say your reasons. I think you're some kind of 3rd party vig and you didn't try to shoot anyone yet and that's why Tim didn't get any results.

He aint reaults for a reason and its not that he aint targeted someone

WingCmdr Ginkapo wrote:What is this Dakky?

Mafia is about trust. You either trust me or you dont.

It's too early to tell. If we lynch Mars and he flips as mafia, I'll trust only IB.

Tim knows something about you and you know something about Tim, but you both don't want to share the information. I guess townies wouldn't act so strange. So let's see how will Mars flip and then... I'll decide if I trust you or not.

BTW IB... Mets can still be scum so your outburst may not be wrong.

dakky21 wrote:

WingCmdr Ginkapo wrote:What is this Dakky?

Mafia is about trust. You either trust me or you dont.

It's too early to tell. If we lynch Mars and he flips as mafia, I'll trust only IB.

Tim knows something about you and you know something about Tim, but you both don't want to share the information. I guess townies wouldn't act so strange. So let's see how will Mars flip and then... I'll decide if I trust you or not.

BTW IB... Mets can still be scum so your outburst may not be wrong.

i know nothing bout him other then i dont trut him thus why if hes doing actions at night thye aint getting through

TimWoodbury wrote:i know nothing bout him other then i dont trut him thus why if hes doing actions at night thye aint getting through

I think I know everything now

ptlowe was the Doctor
Ragian was Jailkeeper
Tim is some kind of Watcher
IB is the Cop
BuJaber is the King (whatever that means)

That leaves:
me as lynchproof
Marashu as another scum

And that leaves:
mets as unknown
hotshot as unknown
greg as unknown

now we get to Wing... who was prevented both nights (Tim said actions so thats a multiple number) and since we got confirmed Doctors, Jailkeepers, Kings, Cops, Watchers... leaves me to think he is a Vig. Unless someone is lying... I guess we'll have to deal with it D4.

dakky21 wrote:

TimWoodbury wrote:i know nothing bout him other then i dont trut him thus why if hes doing actions at night thye aint getting through

I think I know everything now

ptlowe was the Doctor
Ragian was Jailkeeper
Tim is some kind of Watcher
IB is the Cop
BuJaber is the King (whatever that means)

That leaves:
me as lynchproof
Marashu as another scum

And that leaves:
mets as unknown
hotshot as unknown
greg as unknown

now we get to Wing... who was prevented both nights (Tim said actions so thats a multiple number) and since we got confirmed Doctors, Jailkeepers, Kings, Cops, Watchers... leaves me to think he is a Vig. Unless someone is lying... I guess we'll have to deal with it D4.

you got me wrong but i guess you can say its close

So, I don't know why I came up as scum, but at this point, policy lynch is probably what's best for town anyway, though I would obviously prefer if we lynch actual scum tonight. At the very least, I'm going to claim my actions, so when I flip, you'll know it's true.

I'm Richard Bancroft, Archbishop of Canterbury. I'm the town flavor cop. I believe IB's claim because I checked him N1, and did indeed get Thomas Knyvet (was torn between investigating him and mitch). N2 I investigated mets, and Elizebeth Stuart is the result I got. This raised some flags for me - on the one hand, she's young when this happened, and technically wasn't involved in the gunpowder plot. On the other hand, the gunpowder plot was meant to put her on the throne. So it raised more questions than it answered, honestly.

@IB - I'm not doubting your sanity, which means there must be a framer among the mafia. I understand that at this point, I should be the lynch, but I would like to hear what mets has to say about his role.

There's nothing more to say. I am indeed Elizabeth Stuart, and as far as I know I am a VT.

Metsfanmax wrote:There's nothing more to say. I am indeed Elizabeth Stuart, and as far as I know I am a VT.

Does that mean Marashu is telling the truth and IB is lying? Or IB is a insane cop while Mars is a sane flavor cop? This doesn't make any sense.

There is no way that Marashu could have known my role name other than him being a flavor cop. But him being a flavor cop does not necessarily make him town.

dakky21 wrote:

Metsfanmax wrote:There's nothing more to say. I am indeed Elizabeth Stuart, and as far as I know I am a VT.

Does that mean Marashu is telling the truth and IB is lying? Or IB is a insane cop while Mars is a sane flavor cop? This doesn't make any sense.

No there's an obvious description which is that both Marashu and Mets are scum and are confirming each others' identities. Town flavor cop is a brilliant fake claim .. kudos on that one. All Mets has to do is confirm he's that name.

We were all under the impression that there are no vanilla townies. Is Mets claiming that the mod changed his mind and assigned vanilla roles after all?

IF flavor matters then someone who would replace the king after an assassination is most likely part of the plot, or maybe 3rd party. Though this doesn't matter to me.

The reality is if we don't believe IB, and we lynch him we would only know if IB was telling the truth or not. HOWEVER, if we lynch Marashu or Mets.. we'll know both. Or at the very least, we'll know one for sure and a little bit about the other. Actually if we lynch Marashu we'll also know if we can trust IB. 3 people pretty much figured out with the price of one lynch.
We HAVE to vote Marashu.

Vote Marashu