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Re: OFFICIAL ELECTION THREAD

Posted: Fri Nov 13, 2020 6:58 pm
by riskllama
shhshhshh...hush now, saxi - we'll see you in 4 years.

Re: OFFICIAL ELECTION THREAD

Posted: Fri Nov 13, 2020 7:11 pm
by Dukasaur
riskllama wrote:shhshhshh...hush now, saxi - we'll see you in 4 years.

Re: OFFICIAL ELECTION THREAD

Posted: Fri Nov 13, 2020 8:23 pm
by jimboston
DoomYoshi wrote:Media keeps saying there is no evidence of voter fraud. Yet people voting for Biden is, by definition, fraud. Because they mean one thing (Trump) but then they put something else in writing.
Your statement is so convoluted...if it was meant to be funny the humor was lost.

Re: OFFICIAL ELECTION THREAD

Posted: Sat Nov 14, 2020 3:28 am
by saxitoxin
Supreme Court of the United States wrote:The individual citizen has no federal constitutional right to vote for electors for the President of the United States unless and until the state legislature chooses a statewide election as the means to implement its power to appoint members of the Electoral College. U.S. Const., Art. II, §1. This is the source for the statement in McPherson v. Blacker, 146 U.S. 1, 35 (1892), that the State legislature’s power to select the manner for appointing electors is plenary; it may, if it so chooses, select the electors itself, which indeed was the manner used by State legislatures in several States for many years after the Framing of our Constitution. Id., at 28—33.

The State, of course, after granting the franchise in the special context of Article II, can take back the power to appoint electors. See id., at 35 (“[T]here is no doubt of the right of the legislature to resume the power at any time, for it can neither be taken away nor abdicated”) (quoting S. Rep. No. 395, 43d Cong., 1st Sess.).

https://www.law.cornell.edu/supct/html/00-949.ZPC.html


Wisconsin
Senate - 19-14 Republican
Assembly - 63-35-1 Republican

Arizona
Senate - 17-13 Republican
House of Representatives - 31-29 Republican

Pennsylvania
Senate - 28-21-1 Republican
House of Representatives - 113-90 Republican

Georgia
Senate - 35-21-1 Republican
House of Representatives - 103-75-2 Republican

Michigan
Senate - 22-16 Republican
House of Representatives - 58-52 Republican

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Re: OFFICIAL ELECTION THREAD

Posted: Sat Nov 14, 2020 8:30 am
by jimboston
saxitoxin wrote:
Supreme Court of the United States wrote:The individual citizen has no federal constitutional right to vote for electors for the President of the United States unless and until the state legislature chooses a statewide election as the means to implement its power to appoint members of the Electoral College. U.S. Const., Art. II, §1. This is the source for the statement in McPherson v. Blacker, 146 U.S. 1, 35 (1892), that the State legislature’s power to select the manner for appointing electors is plenary; it may, if it so chooses, select the electors itself, which indeed was the manner used by State legislatures in several States for many years after the Framing of our Constitution. Id., at 28—33.

The State, of course, after granting the franchise in the special context of Article II, can take back the power to appoint electors. See id., at 35 (“[T]here is no doubt of the right of the legislature to resume the power at any time, for it can neither be taken away nor abdicated”) (quoting S. Rep. No. 395, 43d Cong., 1st Sess.).

https://www.law.cornell.edu/supct/html/00-949.ZPC.html

You live in a fantasy world.

No State Legislature is going to take back this right from its’ population.
It’s a guaranteed way to lose your job... and they aren’t going to throw away their careers to help Trump.

I also doubt the legality of taking this action retroactively.

I don’t believe they’d do it for future elections... but there’s zero chance of them doing it retroactively.

Perhaps if all these legislators were clones of Trump and didn’t give a flying f**k about societal norms... knowing that violating the norms risks the future of our country and destroys trust... perhaps then. Thank god psychos like Trump are 1-in-a-million.

Re: OFFICIAL ELECTION THREAD

Posted: Sat Nov 14, 2020 12:58 pm
by saxitoxin
Two hours before the start of today's MAGA March in DC, the president drove out to inspect the thousands of his supporters who had already congregated pledging to defend his second term. Nearly 100 other protests are scheduled across the country today!

We will meet the Biden-Harris campaign's outstretched hands, pleading for unity ... and we will cut them off.



Re: OFFICIAL ELECTION THREAD

Posted: Sat Nov 14, 2020 1:19 pm
by mookiemcgee
These people are protesting democracy? Does that make them facists or traitors or both Saxi?

Re: OFFICIAL ELECTION THREAD

Posted: Sat Nov 14, 2020 1:20 pm
by saxitoxin
mookiemcgee wrote:These people are protesting for democracy?
Fixed, yes.

Donald Trump is the democratically elected president of the United States until January 20, 2025.

Re: OFFICIAL ELECTION THREAD

Posted: Sat Nov 14, 2020 1:38 pm
by saxitoxin
The Democrats haven't been this worked up to keep someone out of the White House since 1860.

And we all know how that turned out.

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Re: OFFICIAL ELECTION THREAD

Posted: Sat Nov 14, 2020 1:42 pm
by mookiemcgee
saxitoxin wrote:
mookiemcgee wrote:These people are protesting for democracy?
Fixed, yes.

Donald Trump is the democratically elected president of the United States until January 20, 2025.
Why stop there? Why not 2056?

Re: OFFICIAL ELECTION THREAD

Posted: Sat Nov 14, 2020 2:00 pm
by jonesthecurl
saxitoxin wrote:Two hours before the start of today's MAGA March in DC, the president drove out to inspect the thousands of his supporters who had already congregated pledging to defend his second term. Nearly 100 other protests are scheduled across the country today!

We will meet the Biden-Harris campaign's outstretched hands, pleading for unity ... and we will cut them off.


Actually he just passed them on his way to play golf.

Re: OFFICIAL ELECTION THREAD

Posted: Sat Nov 14, 2020 2:42 pm
by jimboston
saxitoxin wrote:
mookiemcgee wrote:These people are protesting for democracy?
Fixed, yes.

Donald Trump is the democratically elected president of the United States until January 20, 2025.
Lies and the Lying Liars who Tell Them

The ship has sailed Saxi.

#1 Biden won.

#2 According to Trump and his supporters we have to wait until all the lawsuits play out to ‘know’ who the winner is.
So why are you violating the ‘party line’ and claiming he won now?

Re: OFFICIAL ELECTION THREAD

Posted: Sat Nov 14, 2020 3:18 pm
by HitRed
Arizona calling?

Re: OFFICIAL ELECTION THREAD

Posted: Sat Nov 14, 2020 4:11 pm
by DoomYoshi
jimboston wrote:
DoomYoshi wrote:Media keeps saying there is no evidence of voter fraud. Yet people voting for Biden is, by definition, fraud. Because they mean one thing (Trump) but then they put something else in writing.
Your statement is so convoluted...if it was meant to be funny the humor was lost.
Ok, perhaps it is the wrong word. What is the legal term for when you lie on a document?

Re: OFFICIAL ELECTION THREAD

Posted: Sat Nov 14, 2020 5:08 pm
by jimboston
DoomYoshi wrote:
jimboston wrote:
DoomYoshi wrote:Media keeps saying there is no evidence of voter fraud. Yet people voting for Biden is, by definition, fraud. Because they mean one thing (Trump) but then they put something else in writing.
Your statement is so convoluted...if it was meant to be funny the humor was lost.
Ok, perhaps it is the wrong word. What is the legal term for when you lie on a document?
If you lie by mail it’s mail-fraud or postal fraud.

I don’t get the joke/point?

Are you making a joke or trying to say something else?

Re: OFFICIAL ELECTION THREAD

Posted: Sat Nov 14, 2020 5:13 pm
by jimboston
HitRed wrote:Arizona calling?
Point?

Joe Biden has more votes than Trump.
It’s close but the current standing will likely remain.

Even if by some ‘miracle’ the vote recount were to determine a different result in Arizona it wouldn’t overturn the election.

Trump needs like 3 or more States to flip. It ain’t happening.

https://www.cnn.com/2020/11/13/politics ... index.html

Re: OFFICIAL ELECTION THREAD

Posted: Sat Nov 14, 2020 7:42 pm
by saxitoxin
62 affidavits, sworn and notarized under penalty of perjury, by official observers documenting ballot rigging and other misdeeds they witnessed in Michigan; a chilling read for those who care about democracy - a jubilant chronicle for those who care only about empowering elderly Joe Biden like jimboston -

https://documentcloud.adobe.com/link/tr ... ageNum=138

Re: OFFICIAL ELECTION THREAD

Posted: Sat Nov 14, 2020 9:24 pm
by Jdsizzleslice
BTW, CNN is up for sale. Wouldn't it be something if Trump purchased CNN...

Re: OFFICIAL ELECTION THREAD

Posted: Sat Nov 14, 2020 9:33 pm
by HitRed
Jdsizzleslice wrote:BTW, CNN is up for sale. Wouldn't it be something if Trump purchased CNN...
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Re: OFFICIAL ELECTION THREAD

Posted: Sat Nov 14, 2020 10:42 pm
by saxitoxin
Jdsizzleslice wrote:BTW, CNN is up for sale. Wouldn't it be something if Trump purchased CNN...
I'm hoping Sinclair Broadcasting buys CNN. The Sinclair family are big Trump supporters. I can see a Sinclair-owned CNN producing wall-to-wall coverage of Biden scandals (real or imagined) from now until the midterms, in the same way CNN did with Trump.

Re: OFFICIAL ELECTION THREAD

Posted: Sat Nov 14, 2020 11:10 pm
by riskllama
Sinclair = right wing douchebags

Re: OFFICIAL ELECTION THREAD

Posted: Sun Nov 15, 2020 1:06 am
by saxitoxin
riskllama wrote:Sinclair = right wing douchebags
speaking as a right-wing douchebag myself, I agree

In any case, the President continues to do his part in laying the groundwork for the resistance by installing more beartraps to sabotage and subvert Biden -
McEntee is not just firing people. The Pentagon general counsel this week hired former Republican operative and political appointee Michael Ellis as general counsel of the National Security Agency, making him a civilian member of the senior executive service. That gives Ellis civil service protections that will make it hard for Biden’s team to push him out. Several officials said McEntee also wants to help campaign allies secure jobs in the White House.

Some officials said they worry the new hires could destroy briefing documents prepared for the incoming Biden administration. Others criticized McEntee’s choices for key government roles.

The post-election firings are the culmination of a months-long crusade by McEntee, who reports directly to the president and sits just outside the Oval Office.
Since the election, the pace of removals seems to have accelerated. Some of the removals appear to create opportunities for policy gains in the waning days of the Trump administration.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics ... story.html

Re: OFFICIAL ELECTION THREAD

Posted: Sun Nov 15, 2020 7:14 am
by jimboston
saxitoxin wrote:62 affidavits, sworn and notarized under penalty of perjury, by official observers documenting ballot rigging and other misdeeds they witnessed in Michigan; a chilling read for those who care about democracy - a jubilant chronicle for those who care only about empowering elderly Joe Biden like jimboston -

https://documentcloud.adobe.com/link/tr ... ageNum=138
Did you read any of these?

I just read 10 random affidavits.

None were actual witnesses of voter fraud.

A couple, if true, seem like they are worth probing more deeply... like where one says poll workers entered birthdates of 1/1/1900. I’m presuming this is a placeholder way of entering the ballot provisionally... and by using the same date they can easily sort these provisional or questionable ballots out.

Most complaints were related to how these observers were ‘treated’. I’m sorry but if you are asked to pull your mask over your nose... that’s NOT voter fraud. Sorry.

Re: OFFICIAL ELECTION THREAD

Posted: Sun Nov 15, 2020 7:15 am
by jimboston
Jdsizzleslice wrote:BTW, CNN is up for sale. Wouldn't it be something if Trump purchased CNN...
He can’t afford it.

Maybe China will by it for him?

Re: OFFICIAL ELECTION THREAD

Posted: Sun Nov 15, 2020 9:53 am
by Jdsizzleslice
jimboston wrote:
Jdsizzleslice wrote:BTW, CNN is up for sale. Wouldn't it be something if Trump purchased CNN...
He can’t afford it.

Maybe China will by it for him?
Fortunately for us all, if China did buy CNN, the US Government would immediately seize all of the assets.

So then the government would own CNN...