[Abandoned] - The Trojan War

yeti_c · Post by **yeti_c** » Wed Jul 02, 2008 10:41 am

Hmmm - can I suggest you go and try to make a thread in the FF Forum?

C.

bryguy · Post by **bryguy** » Wed Jul 02, 2008 10:43 am

hulmey wrote:
mibi wrote:
bryguy wrote:hey, when everybody thinks that its ready for moving, you could just make another thread for it in ff or the map foundry

yeah, and i will just paste the stamps in as well.

lol...

yeti_c wrote:Hmmm - can I suggest you go and try to make a thread in the FF Forum?

C.

thats basically what i was thinking/suggesting

and maybe you could find a way to sticky it even lol

yeti_c · Post by **yeti_c** » Wed Jul 02, 2008 10:44 am

You're not understanding me...

Go now - and try to make a thread in FF...

C.

mibi · Post by **mibi** » Wed Jul 02, 2008 11:10 am

yeti_c wrote:You're not understanding me...

Go now - and try to make a thread in FF...

C.

I just did, and I stickied it. I marked it as 'invisible' though by accident. Maybe a mod can remove the invisible tag.

DiM · Post by **DiM** » Wed Jul 02, 2008 12:12 pm

mibi wrote:
yeti_c wrote:You're not understanding me...

Go now - and try to make a thread in FF...

C.

I just did, and I stickied it. I marked it as 'invisible' though by accident. Maybe a mod can remove the invisible tag.

mibi, you're wasting your time making threads and posting.

pm me and i'll send you the Map Upload tool. no need for posting stamping and shit. just upload the map straight to CC

Ditocoaf · Post by **Ditocoaf** » Wed Jul 02, 2008 1:18 pm

yeti_c wrote:You're not understanding me...

Go now - and try to make a thread in FF...

C.

Hmm... I see... well, then. He could at least make a thread in the foundry...

Ditocoaf · Post by **Ditocoaf** » Wed Jul 02, 2008 2:15 pm

The Random One wrote:I'll risk a guess.

It is Troy. The maps posted on the first pages seem to confirm that.

But it's not historic Troy, it's more like Homeric Troy. The top portion of the map will be an Olympus-like area, and controlling the gods' territories will give you advantadges in battle - for instance, you need to control Neptune's zone to attack sea territories.

Just a way out there guess. I'm probably way off, but if I'm not I'll be really really happy.

!!!

reading through this thread (wow... I hadn't realized how long ago this was made. I guess there isn't as much of a chance for it as I had even thought.

) I came upon a pet peeve of mine. DON'T USE THE ROMAN GOD'S NAMES FOR GREEK GODS! Once, in a classroom, I saw this big poster called "The Greek Gods"... and it talked about Mars and Neptune and I wanted to tear it down and rip it to shreds.

bryguy · Post by **bryguy** » Wed Jul 02, 2008 2:17 pm

DiM wrote:
mibi wrote:
yeti_c wrote:You're not understanding me...

Go now - and try to make a thread in FF...

C.

I just did, and I stickied it. I marked it as 'invisible' though by accident. Maybe a mod can remove the invisible tag.

mibi, you're wasting your time making threads and posting.

pm me and i'll send you the Map Upload tool. no need for posting stamping and shit. just upload the map straight to CC

what about the xml tho?

p.s. is there really such a thing tho?!?!

yeti_c · Post by **yeti_c** » Wed Jul 02, 2008 2:20 pm

bryguy wrote:
DiM wrote:
mibi wrote:
yeti_c wrote:You're not understanding me...

Go now - and try to make a thread in FF...

C.

I just did, and I stickied it. I marked it as 'invisible' though by accident. Maybe a mod can remove the invisible tag.

mibi, you're wasting your time making threads and posting.

pm me and i'll send you the Map Upload tool. no need for posting stamping and shit. just upload the map straight to CC

what about the xml tho?

p.s. is there really such a thing tho?!?!

Ditocoaf · Post by **Ditocoaf** » Wed Jul 02, 2008 2:29 pm

I just realized something. The All Oceans continent shouldn't be worth +9... because you only have to defend against one line of attack, which you probably already hold. In fact, since most of the gods give you a pretty decent bonus, and can only be attacked from one direction (or zeus), then who would bother going for the bonuses down on land, where you have to defend against attacks from all sides?

bryguy · Post by **bryguy** » Wed Jul 02, 2008 2:34 pm

Ditocoaf wrote:I just realized something. The All Oceans continent shouldn't be worth +9... because you only have to defend against one line of attack, which you probably already hold. In fact, since most of the gods give you a pretty decent bonus, and can only be attacked from one direction (or zeus), then who would bother going for the bonuses down on land, where you have to defend against attacks from all sides?

?????

i thought that since the oceans can attack any adjacent land territories/boats, it was the same vice versa

t-o-m · Post by **t-o-m** » Wed Jul 02, 2008 2:45 pm

yeti_c wrote:
bryguy wrote:p.s. is there really such a thing tho?!?!

my reaction in a nutshell

Ditocoaf · Post by **Ditocoaf** » Wed Jul 02, 2008 3:56 pm

START A PETITION TO WAIVE THE HEIGHT LIMIT

(This is the first time I have ever typed in all caps.)

Army of Achilles · Post by **Army of Achilles** » Thu Jul 03, 2008 12:57 pm

Hopefully this will be made a map soon. I'm looking forward to hosting a tournament on this map.

wcaclimbing · Post by **wcaclimbing** » Thu Jul 03, 2008 1:14 pm

Ditocoaf wrote:START A PETITION TO WAIVE THE HEIGHT LIMIT

(This is the first time I have ever typed in all caps.)

That has been tried so many times.... and its never worked. People have been pushing for size changes for a long time. But no changes so far...

mibi · Post by **mibi** » Thu Jul 03, 2008 1:31 pm

wcaclimbing wrote:
Ditocoaf wrote:START A PETITION TO WAIVE THE HEIGHT LIMIT

(This is the first time I have ever typed in all caps.)

That has been tried so many times.... and its never worked. People have been pushing for size changes for a long time. But no changes so far...

I will start a petition once I update with army digits and neutral counts.

yeti_c · Post by **yeti_c** » Fri Jul 04, 2008 8:40 am

mibi wrote:
wcaclimbing wrote:
Ditocoaf wrote:START A PETITION TO WAIVE THE HEIGHT LIMIT

(This is the first time I have ever typed in all caps.)

That has been tried so many times.... and its never worked. People have been pushing for size changes for a long time. But no changes so far...

I will start a petition once I update with army digits and neutral counts.

Can you fix "Alter" too?

C.

Phatscotty · Post by **Phatscotty** » Fri Jul 04, 2008 9:52 pm

I've been thinkin it would be awesome to have a map of the Trojan War. Have you put any thought into Using the different kings, or is that what you mean by "hero" ajax,demides, odysseus achilles. etc. I am a Greek mythology expert and have read the Iliad at least 10 times. If you seek any input whatsoever I would be happy to contribute

mibi · Post by **mibi** » Fri Jul 04, 2008 10:27 pm

Phatscotty wrote:I've been thinkin it would be awesome to have a map of the Trojan War. Have you put any thought into Using the different kings, or is that what you mean by "hero" ajax,demides, odysseus achilles. etc. I am a Greek mythology expert and have read the Iliad at least 10 times. If you seek any input whatsoever I would be happy to contribute

the major kings are in the Hero's section. I think the map is fairly accurate to the topography of the region and the gameplay works with the story as well. i.e. Troy only has one border, but can can be attacked via the trojan horse, the different heros can attack each other if they killed them in the story, the gods all have bonuses and abilities relevant to who they are.

any input is helpful though.

mibi · Post by **mibi** » Sat Jul 05, 2008 8:19 am

Ditocoaf wrote:I just realized something. The All Oceans continent shouldn't be worth +9... because you only have to defend against one line of attack, which you probably already hold. In fact, since most of the gods give you a pretty decent bonus, and can only be attacked from one direction (or zeus), then who would bother going for the bonuses down on land, where you have to defend against attacks from all sides?

Your right, having the ocean is a huge bonus with only one way to defend, i.e posiedon. But keep in mind in order to get the ocean you have to conquer 15 territories that have neutrals on them, all of posiedon and all of the ocean. That is a lot of neutral killing meanwhile other players are eliminating you from the mortal realm. So its a big bonus, but it requires the most work of any bonus as well.

Also be weary of Zeus who can attack any god, and Hera who can attack zeus, and then any god.

mibi · Post by **mibi** » Sat Jul 05, 2008 10:34 pm

update with digits.

Changes:

1. Added neutrals and digits, as you can see all gods and heros are 2, the final god spaces are 3, and lastly, priums palace is 4 to offset a player starting primarily in Troy.
2. changed Alter to Altar
3. Removed the non-deploy rule

[bigimg]http://img378.imageshack.us/img378/1442/troy4digitsvn6.jpg[/bigimg]

Incandenza · Post by **Incandenza** » Sat Jul 05, 2008 10:47 pm

One super quick thing, you've misspelled "Palace" as both Pallace and Palalce.

wcaclimbing · Post by **wcaclimbing** » Sat Jul 05, 2008 11:46 pm

and Quadrat (in the castle thing) doesn't have an army number on it :roll:

mibi · Post by **mibi** » Sun Jul 06, 2008 12:03 am

wcaclimbing wrote:and Quadrat (in the castle thing) doesn't have an army number on it

Incandenza wrote:One super quick thing, you've misspelled "Palace" as both Pallace and Palalce.

Good eyes folks. Any commentary on the neutrals or anything thats not an error.

Incandenza · Post by **Incandenza** » Sun Jul 06, 2008 12:15 am

Okay...

The neutrals in the god/hero columns are all pretty wonky.
You need to specify which fleet belongs to menelaus and which belongs to agamemnon.
When it comes to one god/hero attacking another, which terit is being attacked, the base of the column? The top? The base of the earth-type bits?
Also, do I need to hold the whole column to hold the god/hero?
One has to attack 21 armies over 7 terits to take zeus, seems a bit much, even for a +6.
Ocean 3 appears to have some sort of comma after the terit name.

That's the stuff that jumps out at me, aside from other spelling errors ("Prium" should be "Priam", "Achaean Barracks" has an M instead of an N

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