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Conquer Club • Is atheism a religion? - Page 14
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Re: Is atheism a religion?

Posted: Thu Apr 28, 2011 9:48 am
by thegreekdog
thegreekdog wrote:Atheism is definitely not a religion.

I believe atheism is a belief, however.

Re: Is atheism a religion?

Posted: Thu Apr 28, 2011 4:20 pm
by jonesthecurl
All the people who don't vote do NOT make up a political party.

Re: Is atheism a religion?

Posted: Thu Apr 28, 2011 4:24 pm
by Haggis_McMutton
jonesthecurl wrote:All the people who don't vote do NOT make up a political party.


Actually that's not a bad idea.

Shall we call it the Apathetic Party?
Every vote that isn't cast will be a vote for us.

Re: Is atheism a religion?

Posted: Thu Apr 28, 2011 5:02 pm
by jonesthecurl
OK - but I don't want to be the Prime Minister/President.

Re: Is atheism a religion?

Posted: Thu Apr 28, 2011 5:33 pm
by Army of GOD
I don't care if I get voted to be the President

Re: Is atheism a religion?

Posted: Thu Apr 28, 2011 5:58 pm
by Juan_Bottom
MeDeFe wrote:
Juan_Bottom wrote:Dawkins does pretty much speak for all of us. His book "the God Delusion" was the most concise gathering of our arguments that I have read. That's why/how he speaks for us.

Oh please. The God Delusion is more of a collection of excerpts from and sketches of a variety of philosophical ideas. Dawkins is not a bad writer at all and his arguments are easy to follow, but intellectually he really went out of his depth with that book. Delusion may serve as a brief introduction and as a starting point for further reading and studies, but it's not what I would call a concise gathering of arguments. It most certainly is not the be-all and end-all of atheism.

Not to Atheists, to Christians. Guys like Hitchens tackle the weird stuff. Dawkins tackles all the stuff that the organized will throw at you. That's why his book feels like excerpts to you.
And I didn't think that he went out of his depth.

Re: Is atheism a religion?

Posted: Thu Apr 28, 2011 6:30 pm
by Symmetry
Juan_Bottom wrote:
MeDeFe wrote:
Juan_Bottom wrote:Dawkins does pretty much speak for all of us. His book "the God Delusion" was the most concise gathering of our arguments that I have read. That's why/how he speaks for us.

Oh please. The God Delusion is more of a collection of excerpts from and sketches of a variety of philosophical ideas. Dawkins is not a bad writer at all and his arguments are easy to follow, but intellectually he really went out of his depth with that book. Delusion may serve as a brief introduction and as a starting point for further reading and studies, but it's not what I would call a concise gathering of arguments. It most certainly is not the be-all and end-all of atheism.

Not to Atheists, to Christians. Guys like Hitchens tackle the weird stuff. Dawkins tackles all the stuff that the organized will throw at you. That's why his book feels like excerpts to you.
And I didn't think that he went out of his depth.


Honestly, he really did. I like Dawkins, he's a clever man. I've read most of his scientific work on evolution (at least the popular stuff) he's very solid there. I also class myself as an atheist. I also study religious history. Unsurprisingly Dawkins has not managed to disprove God. The God Delusion is basically a re-hash of the most basic arguments for atheism. They're all fine, but you'd get demolished in a debate with a theolgian, someone who'd actually spent time on this stuff.

It really annoys me, and I say this as an atheist, when atheists think they've come up with some amazing argument that disproves faith. Trust me, smarter men than you or I have noticed the problem and tackled it.

Re: Is atheism a religion?

Posted: Thu Apr 28, 2011 8:34 pm
by Snorri1234
Symmetry wrote:
Juan_Bottom wrote:
MeDeFe wrote:
Juan_Bottom wrote:Dawkins does pretty much speak for all of us. His book "the God Delusion" was the most concise gathering of our arguments that I have read. That's why/how he speaks for us.

Oh please. The God Delusion is more of a collection of excerpts from and sketches of a variety of philosophical ideas. Dawkins is not a bad writer at all and his arguments are easy to follow, but intellectually he really went out of his depth with that book. Delusion may serve as a brief introduction and as a starting point for further reading and studies, but it's not what I would call a concise gathering of arguments. It most certainly is not the be-all and end-all of atheism.

Not to Atheists, to Christians. Guys like Hitchens tackle the weird stuff. Dawkins tackles all the stuff that the organized will throw at you. That's why his book feels like excerpts to you.
And I didn't think that he went out of his depth.


Honestly, he really did. I like Dawkins, he's a clever man. I've read most of his scientific work on evolution (at least the popular stuff) he's very solid there. I also class myself as an atheist. I also study religious history. Unsurprisingly Dawkins has not managed to disprove God. The God Delusion is basically a re-hash of the most basic arguments for atheism. They're all fine, but you'd get demolished in a debate with a theolgian, someone who'd actually spent time on this stuff.

It really annoys me, and I say this as an atheist, when atheists think they've come up with some amazing argument that disproves faith. Trust me, smarter men than you or I have noticed the problem and tackled it.


I think Juan had a good point in that Delusion is not so much arguments for atheism as a collection of rebuttals to common arguments. It deals with the stuff that is obviously bullshit.

Re: Is atheism a religion?

Posted: Thu Apr 28, 2011 8:51 pm
by Army of GOD
BUT SNORRI, 1000*1080*1042=10101!!!!! OBVIOUSLY GOD EXISTS BY THAT FORMULA

Re: Is atheism a religion?

Posted: Thu Apr 28, 2011 8:59 pm
by Snorri1234
Army of GOD wrote:BUT SNORRI, 1000*1080*1042=10101!!!!! OBVIOUSLY GOD EXISTS BY THAT FORMULA


Obviously. It's why Dawkins left it out, he just couldn't refute it.

Re: Is atheism a religion?

Posted: Thu Apr 28, 2011 9:01 pm
by Phatscotty
Snorri1234 wrote:
Army of GOD wrote:BUT SNORRI, 1000*1080*1042=10101!!!!! OBVIOUSLY GOD EXISTS BY THAT FORMULA


Obviously. It's why Dawkins left it out, he just couldn't refute it.


Hi snorri!!!!!!!!!!!

:)

Re: Is atheism a religion?

Posted: Thu Apr 28, 2011 9:10 pm
by Snorri1234
Phatscotty wrote:
Snorri1234 wrote:
Army of GOD wrote:BUT SNORRI, 1000*1080*1042=10101!!!!! OBVIOUSLY GOD EXISTS BY THAT FORMULA


Obviously. It's why Dawkins left it out, he just couldn't refute it.


Hi snorri!!!!!!!!!!!

:)

sup phats domino?

Re: Is atheism a religion?

Posted: Thu Apr 28, 2011 9:12 pm
by Phatscotty
Snorri1234 wrote:
Phatscotty wrote:
Snorri1234 wrote:
Army of GOD wrote:BUT SNORRI, 1000*1080*1042=10101!!!!! OBVIOUSLY GOD EXISTS BY THAT FORMULA


Obviously. It's why Dawkins left it out, he just couldn't refute it.


Hi snorri!!!!!!!!!!!

:)

sup phats domino


nothing just miss old faces. Is Dawkins 100% right or just pretty much right?

Re: Is atheism a religion?

Posted: Thu Apr 28, 2011 9:17 pm
by Snorri1234
Phatscotty wrote:
Snorri1234 wrote:
Phatscotty wrote:
Snorri1234 wrote:
Army of GOD wrote:BUT SNORRI, 1000*1080*1042=10101!!!!! OBVIOUSLY GOD EXISTS BY THAT FORMULA


Obviously. It's why Dawkins left it out, he just couldn't refute it.


Hi snorri!!!!!!!!!!!

:)

sup phats domino


nothing just miss old faces. Is Dawkins 100% right or just pretty much right?

100% right unless you count that time he killed those two hookers but swore he didn't touch them.

Re: Is atheism a religion?

Posted: Thu Apr 28, 2011 9:21 pm
by Phatscotty
dang I didnt know that.

Re: Is atheism a religion?

Posted: Thu Apr 28, 2011 9:23 pm
by Haggis_McMutton
eh, no one's perfect.

Re: Is atheism a religion?

Posted: Thu Apr 28, 2011 9:27 pm
by Army of GOD
Jesus is. He killed two hookers so he could have sex with their dead bodies, but then he brought them back to life.

Sick f*ck if you ask me...

Re: Is atheism a religion?

Posted: Thu Apr 28, 2011 9:31 pm
by Victor Sullivan
Army of GOD wrote:Jesus is. He killed two hookers so he could have sex with their dead bodies, but then he brought them back to life.

Sick f*ck if you ask me...

:lol:

Re: Is atheism a religion?

Posted: Sat Apr 30, 2011 9:38 am
by Symmetry
Phatscotty wrote:
Snorri1234 wrote:
Phatscotty wrote:
Snorri1234 wrote:
Army of GOD wrote:BUT SNORRI, 1000*1080*1042=10101!!!!! OBVIOUSLY GOD EXISTS BY THAT FORMULA


Obviously. It's why Dawkins left it out, he just couldn't refute it.


Hi snorri!!!!!!!!!!!

:)

sup phats domino


nothing just miss old faces. Is Dawkins 100% right or just pretty much right?


About what?