Conquer Club

AceArtemis wrote:

pmchugh wrote:So does anyone have anything to add? Or are we just going to wait a week for the deadline

@ Stroop do you not believe me that there is a town? Or is it that you don't believe me to be one of those townies?

To be honest, I don't have much to say. I'm still waiting for gimpy to provide an adequate response to my accusations. I won't take part in speculation because I find it distracts from the real point of the game: finding scum. If we are to catch scum today, we need to go back to scumtell discussion and away from setup speculation.

i'll give an adequate respoonse when you make an adequate accusation. I plainly laid out why i voted on day 1 the way I did and the inherant flaws in day 1 play. I am sorry you have feelings on inadequacy on the matter but it has little to do w/ me

AceArtemis wrote:
Mod: Have you tried a mass prod?

Yes, I gave a mass prod a while ago along with a warning.

Right, claim.

I am Blubb, a survivor.

Still need to re-read...

Stroop wrote:Right, claim.

I am Blubb, a survivor.

Still need to re-read...

No powers?

pmchugh wrote:

Stroop wrote:Right, claim.

I am Blubb, a survivor.

Still need to re-read...

No powers?

No powers.

Suspect101 wrote:I am going to change tthe characters to follow the movie instead of the book. Many of the spelling are different and some of the characters are non existant in the movie or have different roles in the book, so to make it easier, I will use the characters from the movie.

From wikipedia:

inning of the novel as well as the film introduces a travelling party consisting of messengers: Gluckuk, a tiny man riding a racing snail (in the film he is called Teeny Weeny and portrayed by Deep Roy) and Vooshvazool, a Nighthob who rides on a bat, Pyornkrachzark, a Rockbiter riding a stone vehicle, and Blubb, a will-o'-the-wisp. All four are sent their respective people to the Ivory Tower to to ask the Childlike Empress for help against the Nothing's destructive forces. In the film, Blubb isn't featured and his actions are given to the Rockbiter.

Got ya!

stroop has fake claimed, time for a lynch boys

Would have been nice if that info had been on page 1...

I am Ygramul. I fake-claimed because wikipedia makes it seem like I'm an evil monster and I did not feel like sharing my actual role. I am a third party Jack of all Trades with survivor win condition, but I have no idea what my actions do. Each night, I get to pick a shape to shift to and a person to target and something happens to them.

I have no idea what I did in night 1, but I targeted /.

Stroop wrote:Would have been nice if that info had been on page 1...

I am Ygramul. I fake-claimed because wikipedia makes it seem like I'm an evil monster and I did not feel like sharing my actual role. I am a third party Jack of all Trades with survivor win condition, but I have no idea what my actions do. Each night, I get to pick a shape to shift to and a person to target and something happens to them.

I have no idea what I did in night 1, but I targeted /.

so you lied, and then told the truth? how are we to believe you this time?
vote stroop

Vote Count

Falkomagno (2)- Sam_levi_11, Thessaruz
Stroop (5) - pmchugh, thischarmingman, Falkomagno, Nzen, gimpyThewonder
pmchugh (1) - Stroop
gimpyThewonder (1) - AceArtemis

With 11 alive it takes 6 to lynch. Stroop is at L-1

Not Voting:

LSU, /

Stroop wrote:Would have been nice if that info had been on page 1...

I am Ygramul. I fake-claimed because wikipedia makes it seem like I'm an evil monster and I did not feel like sharing my actual role. I am a third party Jack of all Trades with survivor win condition, but I have no idea what my actions do. Each night, I get to pick a shape to shift to and a person to target and something happens to them.

I have no idea what I did in night 1, but I targeted /.

I've got to give you credit for not backing down but I simply can't believe this. If your telling the truth then if anything your role would be an SK. But I may as well play along till the deadline or I am 100% sure.

What shape's can you shift to? What shape did you choose last night? Why did you target /? Why didn't you reveal all of the info to the previous questions in your last post?

I'll let him lay out his answers to those questions before I hammer.

You could press Stroop, but his second claim is semi-provable. Induction can suggest its probable truth.

/ isn't dead, so it wasn't vigilante. If he protected, it wouldn't be evident unless another tried to kill /. LSU didn't indicate / was protected, but that doesn't improve or disprove either claim. Stroop didn't indicate receiving an investigation about /, but he could have withheld again, maybe. Provisionally eliminating those suggests he may have roleblocked / (unless you care to suggest a less common role effect).

So, I ask /, do you have reason to believe you were roleblocked last night? No need to claim, just yes or no.

Despite this, the claim amounts to nothing tangible without /'s confirmation. Given the bandwagon hop to kill Simon and implying he isn't third party, I stand behind my vote until Stroop firms up his claim or / supports it.

pmchugh wrote:What shape's can you shift to?

I can shift into a spider, a hand and a scorpion.

What shape did you choose last night?

I chose the hand, because the other two sound like I might have killed / and I wasn't ready to kill anyone yet.

Why did you target /?

For no reason at all, really. I had no idea what I would do, so I just picked someone.

Why didn't you reveal all of the info to the previous questions in your last post?

I rushed the claim because I had to leave.

I have no reason to believe I was role-blocked.

Stroop wrote:

pmchugh wrote:What shape's can you shift to?

I can shift into a spider, a hand and a scorpion.

What shape did you choose last night?

I chose the hand, because the other two sound like I might have killed / and I wasn't ready to kill anyone yet.

Why did you target /?

For no reason at all, really. I had no idea what I would do, so I just picked someone.

Why didn't you reveal all of the info to the previous questions in your last post?

I rushed the claim because I had to leave.

What do you mean by "yet". If anything your role sounds anti-town even if it is true. I am not sure whether to believe this as you would never be counter-claimed with such a scummy role and you lied in the first place. A hand sounds like it could only be a roleblock and if / has no reason to believe he was blocked then I am afraid you are without evidence.

I support a hammer, this isn't a very likely survivor role IMO and the risk of letting you go if your Gmork or The Nothing is too high.

pmchugh wrote:What do you mean by "yet". If anything your role sounds anti-town even if it is true. I am not sure whether to believe this as you would never be counter-claimed with such a scummy role and you lied in the first place. A hand sounds like it could only be a roleblock and if / has no reason to believe he was blocked then I am afraid you are without evidence.

I figure the hand would be roleblocking, protecting or jailkeeping. Since / wasn't roleblocked, I think it was protection. That, or / has no role that I could have blocked.

By "yet" I mean that I want to have an idea of who I might be killing before I start using potentially lethal actions. As long as I have no reason to think the scum holds the advantage, I will not kill townies. I will even let you decide my night action in an attempt to prove that I am really Ygramul. Just tell me which shape to use and on who.

Stroop wrote:

pmchugh wrote:What do you mean by "yet". If anything your role sounds anti-town even if it is true. I am not sure whether to believe this as you would never be counter-claimed with such a scummy role and you lied in the first place. A hand sounds like it could only be a roleblock and if / has no reason to believe he was blocked then I am afraid you are without evidence.

I figure the hand would be roleblocking, protecting or jailkeeping. Since / wasn't roleblocked, I think it was protection. That, or / has no role that I could have blocked.

By "yet" I mean that I want to have an idea of who I might be killing before I start using potentially lethal actions. As long as I have no reason to think the scum holds the advantage, I will not kill townies. I will even let you decide my night action in an attempt to prove that I am really Ygramul. Just tell me which shape to use and on who.

But then scum could simply target him and make you seem like scum, or if you are the scum, you could just kill him...

sam_levi_11 wrote:

Stroop wrote:

pmchugh wrote:What do you mean by "yet". If anything your role sounds anti-town even if it is true. I am not sure whether to believe this as you would never be counter-claimed with such a scummy role and you lied in the first place. A hand sounds like it could only be a roleblock and if / has no reason to believe he was blocked then I am afraid you are without evidence.

I figure the hand would be roleblocking, protecting or jailkeeping. Since / wasn't roleblocked, I think it was protection. That, or / has no role that I could have blocked.

By "yet" I mean that I want to have an idea of who I might be killing before I start using potentially lethal actions. As long as I have no reason to think the scum holds the advantage, I will not kill townies. I will even let you decide my night action in an attempt to prove that I am really Ygramul. Just tell me which shape to use and on who.

But then scum could simply target him and make you seem like scum, or if you are the scum, you could just kill him...

I know it has it's flaws, but I think it's the best I can do to prove that I'm really not scum...

Also, if I make it into the night, I'll probably be investigated/tracked and my assigned target would be watched if possible...

there is also the old saying of lynch all liars and you my friend are a liar about who your role was. is there a consensus for me to go ahead and hammer? if so i'll hammer tonight when i return from visiting my dad for father's day.

Hi guys sorry that I've been a bit inactive that last days, have been/is away.

While I still think that falko have looked more like scum I do think that stroopis a good lynch. Worst case it's a non-essential role and best case it's g'mork/nothingness.

So, Vote Stroop.


LSU

*sigh* Blubb was a really shit fake-claim

but I WANTED TO HAMMER HIM!

Stroop wrote:*sigh* Blubb was a really shit fake-claim

Don't feel too bad a mere mortal might not have realised it

So who were you really?

long fathers day.

I will post in this thread tomorrow.

so...night is already started??


Becasue I really think that stroops is liying.

Stroop wrote:The Simon lynch was fine. Granted, the initial reasons weren't the best, but when he claimed third party we had a safe lynch.

It's clear that Stroop is not 3rd party