Conquer Club

gimil wrote:

WidowMakers wrote:Can I get my "Game Play Pending NEW XML Feature" stamp too oak?

Thanks

Feeling left out?

n00blet wrote:How beast would this be with infected neutrals?
Instant death...the carnage would be insane

oaktown wrote:I'd like to see a horizontal line in the top left legend separating the "Revert to 30 neutrals" line with the rest fo the info in that box, since they aren't related. You've used lines in that way elsewhere in the legend.

oaktown wrote:So really the high neutral reset is just to make walls, yes? That's cool.

oaktown wrote:That said, the key to holding any color bonus is going to be setting up walls around yourself as you advance. The easiest colors to hold - and therefor the colors that should receive the smallest bonuses - will be the ones that can be taken progressively, with walls being easily constructed behind you for defense. Obviously the corner and side colors will be the easiest starts. For example, you can hold yellow by creating 14 walls and holding three points. White can be held with 17 walls and defending six points. To hold red you need to create 21 walls and hold 6 defense points. Gray requires just 12 walls and 5 defense points. Yellow and gray seem to be the easier holds, yet they are both worth more than either white or red. And yellow seems to be worth way to much relative to, say, the light green, which will require you to create 16 wall squares and hold two points: +27 for a region that may be more difficult to hold than a +42 region?

I haven't looked all the way back through this thread to see how the bonuses were calculated, but I think that the main ingredient has to be how many unique individual points of contact a region has with neighbors. The light green may look nice and safe against the top edge, but it has almost as many unique points of contact (18) as the white region (23). And poor purple: 25 points of contact yet it's worth less than white, yellow, and gray.

of course, this only takes into consideration ease of holding the entire region, not the ease of setting up walls as you advance. Some regions (like white) will require you to create more walls along the way to keep your enemies from breaking through from other arms of the white region. Whew!

Color       / # of Sub Groups / # of Terts / Direct connections / Wall / Bonus
Purple      / 3 / 15 / 2 / 9  / +21
Blue        / 3 / 15 / 3 / 14 / +24
Dark Green  / 3 / 16 / 2 / 9  / +22
Light Green / 4 / 19 / 3 / 18 / +27
Magenta     / 4 / 22 / 5 / 20 / +36
Brown       / 4 / 22 / 6 / 12 / +39
Orange      / 4 / 22 / 6 / 19 / +39
Cyan        / 4 / 22 / 6 / 25 / +40
Cream       / 4 / 23 / 6 / 17 / +40
Red         / 5 / 26 / 6 / 22 / +41
Yellow      / 5 / 27 / 3 / 15 / +42
Dark Gray   / 6 / 30 / 5 / 16 / +44 

oaktown wrote:Is there a segment line missing in orange? You have a 13 territory sub-region. White has a 12.

oaktown wrote:The similarities between the "I" and the "J" still bother me.

oaktown wrote:I'm pleased with the bonus rather than the victory condition - placing 454 armies is pretty much a victory anyway.

oaktown wrote:alright... I hope I gave you some things to chew on widow.

InkL0sed wrote:It'd be cool if there was an XML feature that made connecting two territories a continent. So you could just make it behoove a player to hold the shortest route, but actually be able to hold any route.

I guess it would work like this:

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<connect>
   454
  <end>Start</end>
  <end>Finish</end>
</connect>

Or something of that nature.

WidowMakers wrote:

InkL0sed wrote:It'd be cool if there was an XML feature that made connecting two territories a continent. So you could just make it behoove a player to hold the shortest route, but actually be able to hold any route.

I guess it would work like this:

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<connect>
   454
  <end>Start</end>
  <end>Finish</end>
</connect>

Or something of that nature.

That is an interesting idea but I don't want to wait around for another XML feature I need. Plus I don't see that really working for many other maps and I don't think Lack will code that up just for me.

Good idea though.

WM

yeti_c wrote:

WidowMakers wrote:

InkL0sed wrote:It'd be cool if there was an XML feature that made connecting two territories a continent. So you could just make it behoove a player to hold the shortest route, but actually be able to hold any route.

I guess it would work like this:

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<connect>
   454
  <end>Start</end>
  <end>Finish</end>
</connect>

Or something of that nature.

That is an interesting idea but I don't want to wait around for another XML feature I need. Plus I don't see that really working for many other maps and I don't think Lack will code that up just for me.

Good idea though.

WM

This feature would be cool in an Age Of Merchant Redux...

Initially the idea was to connect up resources to markets/ports etc... however - due to the myriad of connections - it would've been impossible to code - so just had to be holding the certain resources...

Also - could work for AOR 1 & 2 REDUXes as well...

C.

gimil wrote:To continue slightly off topic, wouldn't that be brutal to code?

MrBenn wrote:I'll lock this thread until the XML becomes available.

-There is no XML update so the resetting killer neutrals to a higher value will not happen.

cairnswk wrote:Why don't you put up a poll?

n00blet wrote:I want to see it...I voted 3, but with this caveat:

Change it back to the original way you wanted the neutrals to work once the XML update is passed through.

Victor Sullivan wrote::cry: This map looks amazing... Couldn't the walls just start out 30 neutral? Not like it matters at this point...

-Sully...