NHL Lockout?

[Gillipig]

Lundquist has really showed why he was last years Vezina winner. Two shutouts back to back in the playoffs, how rare isn't that?

[Army of GOD]

Boston comeback was ridiculous. Two goals in under 1:30? Reimer will never hear the end of it.

Also, semp, don't talk about Jagr being a traitor. Not only am I a Pens fan but Jagr is my favorite Pen of all-time. HE also played for every Pens rival after his Pittsburgh tour.

[sempaispellcheck]

To me, he's a traitor. As a Pens fan and a Ranger fan, if you play for the Flyers, you're as good as dead to me.
Same goes, of course, for Max Talbot - as much as it pains me.

sempai

[Gillipig]

To me, he's a traitor. As a Pens fan and a Ranger fan, if you play for the Flyers, you're as good as dead to me.
Same goes, of course, for Max Talbot - as much as it pains me.

sempai

Jagr is the man! Traitor? Pff, my ass! He's born in Czech Republic, by your standards he was a traitor when he first arrived in the U.S to play hockey. But your standards are weird and don't count.

[Serbia]

To me, he's a traitor. As a Pens fan and a Ranger fan, if you play for the Flyers, you're as good as dead to me.
Same goes, of course, for Max Talbot - as much as it pains me.

sempai

Jagr is the man! Traitor? Pff, my ass! He's born in Czech Republic, by your standards he was a traitor when he first arrived in the U.S to play hockey. But your standards are weird and don't count.

No, country of origin has nothing to do with it. If you don't understand what he's saying, you either don't understand rivalries in the NHL, or you don't understand sports rivalries full stop.

Bollocks.

[keiths31]

Not a Leafs fan, but you can't pin that loss on Reimer. His D shut down and the whole team played way to conservatively. You could just tell they were unprepared to hold on to that lead.

[denominator]

Also, semp, don't talk about Jagr being a traitor. Not only am I a Pens fan but Jagr is my favorite Pen of all-time. HE also played for every Pens rival after his Pittsburgh tour.

I actually agree with AoG. If you truly respect the player as a player, it doesn't matter where he ends up playing. I may come to dislike the player because he ends up playing well against the previous team, but I don't instantly hate him as a traitor just because of the jersey he wears.

[Gillipig]

To me, he's a traitor. As a Pens fan and a Ranger fan, if you play for the Flyers, you're as good as dead to me.
Same goes, of course, for Max Talbot - as much as it pains me.

sempai

Jagr is the man! Traitor? Pff, my ass! He's born in Czech Republic, by your standards he was a traitor when he first arrived in the U.S to play hockey. But your standards are weird and don't count.

No, country of origin has nothing to do with it. If you don't understand what he's saying, you either don't understand rivalries in the NHL, or you don't understand sports rivalries full stop.

Bollocks.

No mr hockey, it is you who don't understand. I know exactly what he was talking about, I merely broadened the analogy. The same mindset he has for team rivalry, others have when it comes to rivaling leagues. But you're canadian, you wouldn't understand. It's we who ship our best players to where you are at, not the other way around.

[Army of GOD]

To me, he's a traitor. As a Pens fan and a Ranger fan, if you play for the Flyers, you're as good as dead to me.
Same goes, of course, for Max Talbot - as much as it pains me.

sempai

That's pretty paradoxical.

[Serbia]

To me, he's a traitor. As a Pens fan and a Ranger fan, if you play for the Flyers, you're as good as dead to me.
Same goes, of course, for Max Talbot - as much as it pains me.

sempai

Jagr is the man! Traitor? Pff, my ass! He's born in Czech Republic, by your standards he was a traitor when he first arrived in the U.S to play hockey. But your standards are weird and don't count.

No, country of origin has nothing to do with it. If you don't understand what he's saying, you either don't understand rivalries in the NHL, or you don't understand sports rivalries full stop.

Bollocks.

No mr hockey, it is you who don't understand. I know exactly what he was talking about, I merely broadened the analogy. The same mindset he has for team rivalry, others have when it comes to rivaling leagues. But you're canadian, you wouldn't understand. It's we who ship our best players to where you are at, not the other way around.

I'm not Mr. Hockey; that's Gordie Howe.
I'm not Canadian; I'm an American.
I do understand that the best European players come to play in North America. No one is debating that, but thanks for trying to change the subject.
Also, you weren't debating different leagues in different countries; you made a stupid analogy regarding nationality by pointing out where Jagr was born. No American looked at Jagr as any type of traitor; I don't know what Communist Party officials in Czechoslovakia thought of his defection at the time though.

Bottom line; none of this has ANYTHING to do with sempai's feelings toward Jagr based on his leaving Pittsburgh and New York, and eventually playing in Philadelphia.

Bollocks.

[Gillipig]

To me, he's a traitor. As a Pens fan and a Ranger fan, if you play for the Flyers, you're as good as dead to me.
Same goes, of course, for Max Talbot - as much as it pains me.

sempai

Jagr is the man! Traitor? Pff, my ass! He's born in Czech Republic, by your standards he was a traitor when he first arrived in the U.S to play hockey. But your standards are weird and don't count.

No, country of origin has nothing to do with it. If you don't understand what he's saying, you either don't understand rivalries in the NHL, or you don't understand sports rivalries full stop.

Bollocks.

No mr hockey, it is you who don't understand. I know exactly what he was talking about, I merely broadened the analogy. The same mindset he has for team rivalry, others have when it comes to rivaling leagues. But you're canadian, you wouldn't understand. It's we who ship our best players to where you are at, not the other way around.

I'm not Mr. Hockey; that's Gordie Howe.
I'm not Canadian; I'm an American.
I do understand that the best European players come to play in North America. No one is debating that, but thanks for trying to change the subject.
Also, you weren't debating different leagues in different countries; you made a stupid analogy regarding nationality by pointing out where Jagr was born. No American looked at Jagr as any type of traitor; I don't know what Communist Party officials in Czechoslovakia thought of his defection at the time though.

Bottom line; none of this has ANYTHING to do with sempai's feelings toward Jagr based on his leaving Pittsburgh and New York, and eventually playing in Philadelphia.

Bollocks.

You're just too dense to discuss this with. Go back to your drinking glass please.

[Serbia]

To me, he's a traitor. As a Pens fan and a Ranger fan, if you play for the Flyers, you're as good as dead to me.
Same goes, of course, for Max Talbot - as much as it pains me.

sempai

Jagr is the man! Traitor? Pff, my ass! He's born in Czech Republic, by your standards he was a traitor when he first arrived in the U.S to play hockey. But your standards are weird and don't count.

No, country of origin has nothing to do with it. If you don't understand what he's saying, you either don't understand rivalries in the NHL, or you don't understand sports rivalries full stop.

Bollocks.

No mr hockey, it is you who don't understand. I know exactly what he was talking about, I merely broadened the analogy. The same mindset he has for team rivalry, others have when it comes to rivaling leagues. But you're canadian, you wouldn't understand. It's we who ship our best players to where you are at, not the other way around.

I'm not Mr. Hockey; that's Gordie Howe.
I'm not Canadian; I'm an American.
I do understand that the best European players come to play in North America. No one is debating that, but thanks for trying to change the subject.
Also, you weren't debating different leagues in different countries; you made a stupid analogy regarding nationality by pointing out where Jagr was born. No American looked at Jagr as any type of traitor; I don't know what Communist Party officials in Czechoslovakia thought of his defection at the time though.

Bottom line; none of this has ANYTHING to do with sempai's feelings toward Jagr based on his leaving Pittsburgh and New York, and eventually playing in Philadelphia.

Bollocks.

You have defeated me. Please carry on.

Thanks for the recognition, bud. Mad props to ya!

Bollocks.

[Gillipig]

Jagr is the man! Traitor? Pff, my ass! He's born in Czech Republic, by your standards he was a traitor when he first arrived in the U.S to play hockey. But your standards are weird and don't count.

No, country of origin has nothing to do with it. If you don't understand what he's saying, you either don't understand rivalries in the NHL, or you don't understand sports rivalries full stop.

Bollocks.

No mr hockey, it is you who don't understand. I know exactly what he was talking about, I merely broadened the analogy. The same mindset he has for team rivalry, others have when it comes to rivaling leagues. But you're canadian, you wouldn't understand. It's we who ship our best players to where you are at, not the other way around.

I'm not Mr. Hockey; that's Gordie Howe.
I'm not Canadian; I'm an American.
I do understand that the best European players come to play in North America. No one is debating that, but thanks for trying to change the subject.
Also, you weren't debating different leagues in different countries; you made a stupid analogy regarding nationality by pointing out where Jagr was born. No American looked at Jagr as any type of traitor; I don't know what Communist Party officials in Czechoslovakia thought of his defection at the time though.

Bottom line; none of this has ANYTHING to do with sempai's feelings toward Jagr based on his leaving Pittsburgh and New York, and eventually playing in Philadelphia.

Bollocks.

You have defeated me. Please carry on.

Thanks for the recognition, bud. Mad props to ya!

Bollocks.

I think you've looked a little bit too deep in your glass, mr budweiser

[sempaispellcheck]

Serbia, thank you for understanding me.

Gilipig, by saying this:

But your standards are weird and don't count.

you essentially forfeited any claim you might have had to a valid point.
If you're just going to dismiss my argument, I'm more than happy to dismiss yours.

As for this:

...As a Pens fan and a Ranger fan...

That's pretty paradoxical.

I guess you could say that, but there's a reason for it.
I'm a Ranger fan because I was born and raised a Ranger fan - when you grow up in New York, that's what happens.
When I was younger, my brother was a Penguins fan (for reasons I'm not aware of), and he had a Penguins jacket, which eventually got passed down to me. Of course, I couldn't wear the jacket without supporting the team, so I became a Pens fan.
Judge me as you will, but I know plenty of people who root for their teams for much more arbitrary reasons.

sempai

[Army of GOD]

...As a Pens fan and a Ranger fan...

That's pretty paradoxical.

I guess you could say that, but there's a reason for it.
I'm a Ranger fan because I was born and raised a Ranger fan - when you grow up in New York, that's what happens.
When I was younger, my brother was a Penguins fan (for reasons I'm not aware of), and he had a Penguins jacket, which eventually got passed down to me. Of course, I couldn't wear the jacket without supporting the team, so I became a Pens fan.
Judge me as you will, but I know plenty of people who root for their teams for much more arbitrary reasons.

sempai

Haha, no, I understand. I was brought up a Ranger fan (grew up in Upstate NY and my dad and mom are both from NYC) and my oldest brother even got me a Rangers hockey bag when I was like 6. But I loved Lemieux and Jagr and was really always a Pens fan.

[Army of GOD]

Pens dominate Sens. Bruins sneak past the Rangers.

[sempaispellcheck]

Pens dominate Sens.

Good. Hopefully, that continues.

Bruins sneak past the Rangers.

Boo. That needs to be fixed.

sempai

[Gillipig]

I really thought the Rangers would take this opening game, well it was a close one at least.

Biggest game for a swede last night, was of course that we knocked out Canada in the Worlds. I had slim hopes at best before the game but we came out with speed and purpose, and Canada couldn't find their groove. First game I've ever seen where Sweden played more physical than Canada.

[keiths31]

Pens dominate Sens.

Good. Hopefully, that continues.

sempai

It won't...

[Gillipig]

Pens dominate Sens.

Good. Hopefully, that continues.

sempai

It won't...

We'll see....

[ben79]

Great game by Zetterberg and the Wings last night. Cheering for NYR this afternoon.

[Serbia]

The Wings totally flipped the script on the Blackhawks. I found it so funny that Chicago's players kept saying Detroit "played our game; beat us at our game". The puck possession game has always been Detroit's game; they just haven't been as good at it this year. Well, Detroit is a young, improving team, and they're figuring it out at the right time of the year.

This doesn't mean I'm ready to award Detroit the series, far from it, but we've definitely got a series now. Go Wings!

Bollocks.

[Army of GOD]

Both goalies played great games; Anderson outlasted Vokoun though.

[Serbia]

I was shocked Ottawa got the tie in regulation; needing a shorthanded goal, with Anderson on the bench, against Pittsburgh? You're not going to get that lucky very often. Wish I could have stayed awake for the OT's.

Big game in Detroit tonight...

Bollocks.

[Baron Von PWN]

That Sens vs Pens game last night was one of the most intense games ever. So many awesome goal opportunities for both teams. I think it'll either be a 6 or 7 game series.