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The Bison King wrote:The border of Buriram doesn't fully connect to Khon Kaen.


Yes I can see it in the large map, there is a small gap in the border separating Buriram from Khorat just before it meets Khon Kaen.

One other issue - please add some sort of connecting line between Phuket and Phang Nga. Also, if you think it would look ok, please add one between Phuket and Krabi, as there are frequent boat connections between those provinces. If you think it would look bad, we don't need it.

Cheers, looking very good! I'll have the xml done soon.
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The Bison King wrote:The border of Buriram doesn't fully connect to Khon Kaen.


Yes I can see it in the large map, there is a small gap in the border separating Buriram from Khorat just before it meets Khon Kaen.

One other issue - please add some sort of connecting line between Phuket and Phang Nga. Also, if you think it would look ok, please add one between Phuket and Krabi, as there are frequent boat connections between those provinces. If you think it would look bad, we don't need it.

Cheers, looking very good! I'll have the xml done soon.


Good idea with the connections, i am surprised that wasn't discussed earlier.. the draft above is crap, i will have to redo it when i actually get time to sit down and do something. Thanks FD

edit: actually i messed it up, i saved over the big version with the small version on the psd file, i might have to redo it, i am hating the look of the small version of the map, especially the names, they are WAY to blurry

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Big:
[bigimg]http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5208/5351070881_56920f9d6b_b.jpg[/bigimg]


Small:
[bigimg]http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5045/5351660028_9a21b18886_z.jpg[/bigimg]

small version will have to re do the names, still blurry but it is looking better then before i think

edit: And the 888's on the small version
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Should 'territory abbreviations' be 'region abbreviations'---since you reference 'regions' in the other legend?

Looking at the small, I wish the text could be boosted a bit, or bolder. Otherwise I'm liking the map.


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AndyDufresne wrote:Should 'territory abbreviations' be 'region abbreviations'---since you reference 'regions' in the other legend?

Looking at the small, I wish the text could be boosted a bit, or bolder. Otherwise I'm liking the map.


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Sounds good to me, i will change that on the next update...

I am planning on messing with the small version text, i was just wondering what everyone thought about the large version first before messing with the small version, it gets tricky now that i have to work with 2 different versions because of the text change.

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I've pretty much finished the xml for the large Thailand map. Just need to fine tune the starting locations, which I'll do later.

If anybody wants an xml sneak preview of large map:

http://www.conquerclub.com/mapmaker/index.php

xml URL - http://www.killersapp.com/thailand.xml
map URL - http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5208/5351070881_56920f9d6b_b.jpg
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Large version

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Small version

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changed the text on the small version, it looked a lot clearer to me, let me know. Also changed from Tert Abrv. to Region Abrv on the key like Andy suggested above.

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One additional spelling edit I noticed when coding xml - should be "Phak Nuea" instead of "Phak Nua".
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FarangDemon wrote:One additional spelling edit I noticed when coding xml - should be "Phak Nuea" instead of "Phak Nua".


changed.

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[bigimg]http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5165/5369442301_ac2ebab308_b.jpg[/bigimg]

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The region names on the small map appear readable. The legend is a little fuzzy, but otherwise I don't have too many complaints about the map.


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Where is your 888's on Phrae?
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Nola_Lifer wrote:Where is your 888's on Phrae?


[bigimg]http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5203/5371676754_2e7853b148_z.jpg[/bigimg]

And thanks andy, i will work more on the text in the key in just a bit here, i am too seeing the fuzzy.

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Its clear now. I am going to Chiang Rai today, be back in a few.

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Looking pretty good Griff, there are a couple territory names that are getting lost in their borders. Ratchaburi, Phechiburi, and Narathlwat stick out to me the most. A little moving around or maybe just a little erasing of the borders directly under the territory name just to make sure everything is readable.

Give a check of your image on vischeck to make sure anyone with color blindness won't have much trouble viewing the map. http://www.vischeck.com/vischeck/vischeckImage.php
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RedBaron0 wrote:Looking pretty good Griff, there are a couple territory names that are getting lost in their borders. Ratchaburi, Phechiburi, and Narathlwat stick out to me the most. A little moving around or maybe just a little erasing of the borders directly under the territory name just to make sure everything is readable.

Give a check of your image on vischeck to make sure anyone with color blindness won't have much trouble viewing the map. http://www.vischeck.com/vischeck/vischeckImage.php



[bigimg]http://vischeck.homeip.net/uploads/vc_olrYpQ_sim.jpg[/bigimg]

[bigimg]http://vischeck.homeip.net/uploads/vc_oLvus6_sim.jpg[/bigimg]

should be fine i think, its pretty clear what belongs to what, and the shades of gray are all a little different. Clear to me at least.

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small:

[bigimg]http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5250/5380375987_35c8588e27_z.jpg[/bigimg]

large:

[bigimg]http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5289/5380375751_a6565a94ca_b.jpg[/bigimg]

Ok i just erased and fine tuned the boarders behind those names that were not so clear on both versions.

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Ugh, the images are broken, you gotta save'um after you run a vischeck.

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But you're right, distinct regions for color blind folks.

Please put up some armies numbers, graphically, and lets make sure the colors don't blend together too much, the red and blue numbers I'm most afraid of, other than that I think you're good with the army number colors.
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Here is what i got, looked good to me... let me know

org. small version w/ 888's
[bigimg]http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5213/5386984589_ab7c6a04d7_z.jpg[/bigimg]

color blind versions w/ 888's (as above)
[bigimg]http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5220/5387585816_7d136bde01.jpg[/bigimg]
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The only maybe unfortunate thing I see are a few of the troop counts over the Royal Army Region icons, but for the most part, I'm not sure that can be helped.


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AndyDufresne wrote:The only maybe unfortunate thing I see are a few of the troop counts over the Royal Army Region icons, but for the most part, I'm not sure that can be helped.


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The digs could be moved a bit, I bet I could have at least half the icon show w the 888 on top if that is acceptable?

or even make the Royal Army Region icons smaller for the small version...
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Actually the little Royal Army icons don't look bad on the small version IMO. Seems to fit the 888's in those areas a lot easier now. I reduced the size by 30% i think it was of those icons

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This map is looking good. Seems to all fit in also! Well done working in small areas.
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Alright a few things that are popping out for me, but your journey is coming close to it's end. ;)

The background could be a touch darker, or could use a smidge of glow.
The non-playable areas are different colors, make them all the same color, personally I like the color of Myanmar to the west.
The non-playable area to the south, Malaysia, is outlined where the rest of the non-playable areas are not. Looks better without the outline.
While the playable surface covers the outer border of the map, the rivers also are on top of this border. It's kinda odd for me to see, a geographic feature on top while everything else is under. Drop the rivers below the outer border.
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Big
[bigimg]http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5254/5392446428_35fc16f641_b.jpg[/bigimg]

Small
[bigimg]http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5297/5391846837_9d79647fbc_z.jpg[/bigimg]

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