Conquer Club

OK here are the large and small maps with all changes applied.

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4061/430 ... bdb4_o.png

[bigimg]http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4061/4302469166_31e626bdb4_o.png[/bigimg]

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2804/430 ... 694e_o.png

Well done and well deserved.

Welcome to the Final Forge

Congrats! Very well deserved.

RedBaron0 wrote:Well done and well deserved.

MrBenn wrote:Welcome to the Final Forge

Industrial Helix wrote:=D>
Congrats! Very well deserved.

Thanx =)

I will get that XML updated as soon as possible, I look forward to the feedback from the final forge.

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new XML coming this monday afternoon =)

sorry for the delay ...

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XML Updated

Map Maker - http://www.conquerclub.com/mapmaker/index.php
XML - http://www.bigottergames.com/downloads/monsters13.xml (v0_13_17)
Small - http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2804/430 ... 694e_o.png (v0_13_17)
Large - http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4061/430 ... bdb4_o.png (v0_13_17)

Here is map with 88's and 888's applied via the xml tool.

LARGE 88 - http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2696/436 ... fb1f_o.png

[bigimg]http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2696/4361726146_b66240fb1f_o.png[/bigimg]

LARGE 888 - http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4047/436 ... 7197_o.png

[bigimg]http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4047/4360984243_e812c37197_o.png[/bigimg]

SMALL 88 - http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4066/436 ... 0b16_o.png



SMALL 888 - http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4010/436 ... 7aaa_o.png



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XML Update

- fixed xml so holding 1 or 2 monsters actually gets the 3 bonus it was suposed ot get.
- removed 6 and 9 monster bonus from the xml as it is the same as holding 1,2 or even 3 monsters.
- fixed a connection to Goz with Gak that was incorrectly connecting to Geb

Map Maker - http://www.conquerclub.com/mapmaker/index.php
XML - http://www.bigottergames.com/downloads/monsters13a.xml (v0_13_17)
Small - http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2804/430 ... 694e_o.png (v0_13_17)
Large - http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4061/430 ... bdb4_o.png (v0_13_17)

XML Updated

- Bonuses for 2 and 3 monsters removed to l;ighten xml.
- reworded the bonus names from things like "1 Monster" to "Monsters (1 - 11)" and "48 Monsters" to "Monsters (48)"
- "Grath" was set to a 3 bonus and now matches the other wizards.

I wanted to ask if this makes sense...

You get 0 bonus for 0 monsters... the monsters are the playfield for the standard bonus I assumed that it would make sense that if you loose all monsters you get 0. Does this sound sensible or should there still be a minimum of 3 even if you have no monsters?

Map Maker - http://www.conquerclub.com/mapmaker/index.php
XML - http://www.bigottergames.com/downloads/monsters13b.xml (v0_13_17 b)
Small - http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2804/430 ... 694e_o.png (v0_13_17)
Large - http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4061/430 ... bdb4_o.png (v0_13_17)[/quote]

dolomite13 wrote:I wanted to ask if this makes sense...

You get 0 bonus for 0 monsters... the monsters are the playfield for the standard bonus I assumed that it would make sense that if you loose all monsters you get 0. Does this sound sensible or should there still be a minimum of 3 even if you have no monsters?

It isn;t possible to have a 0 territory bonus - which is why Poker Club gives out 1, with all the awarded bonuses reduced by one...

MrBenn wrote:

dolomite13 wrote:I wanted to ask if this makes sense...

You get 0 bonus for 0 monsters... the monsters are the playfield for the standard bonus I assumed that it would make sense that if you loose all monsters you get 0. Does this sound sensible or should there still be a minimum of 3 even if you have no monsters?

It isn;t possible to have a 0 territory bonus - which is why Poker Club gives out 1, with all the awarded bonuses reduced by one...

Ah... I shall set it for minimum 3 ... which is how I believe the "classic" map works =)

So its minimum 3 that means first bonus is at 12 (+1) so I lowered all bonuses by 3 across the board and removed anything below 12 so this should make the bonuses correct.

http://www.bigottergames.com/downloads/monsters13x.xml

0-11 = +3
12=14 = +4
15-17 = +5
18-20 = +6
21-23 = +7
24-26 = +8
27-29 = +9
30-32 = +10
33-35 = +11
36-38 = +12
39-41 = +13
42-44 = +14
45-47 = +15
48 = +16

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You could always set the minimum to 1 and have it closer to the original idea. If you wanted to keep the 0 for 0 monsters idea, then you could also have owning a wizard be worth -1 deployable.

The other thing to consider is that it may be better to keep it at a 3 minimum, since otherwise it might get difficult to get started if you get screwed by the dice.

If you wanted to keep the 0 for 0 monsters idea, then you could also have owning a wizard be worth -1 deployable.

Yes, but I don't think it's still possible to get 0 troops. You'll always get at least 1 troop for deployment even if your bonus is -6 or something.

Correct me if I'm wrong, XML gurus.

natty_dread wrote:

If you wanted to keep the 0 for 0 monsters idea, then you could also have owning a wizard be worth -1 deployable.

Yes, but I don't think it's still possible to get 0 troops. You'll always get at least 1 troop for deployment even if your bonus is -6 or something.

Correct me if I'm wrong, XML gurus.

I believe this is true - DiM wanted to do 0 deployment for territories in City Mogul but he had to do 1.

Well minimum 3 is the standard so that sounds good. That keeps people in the game and because we are starting with alot of neutrals on the game map I think it should help players get started.

From the XML check ....

Forza AZ wrote:Yes, all is OK now.

So I guess that means we are pretty much ready to roll... I am looking forward to seeing this map in BETA soon =)

Only 17 months of development went into this map

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natty_dread wrote:

If you wanted to keep the 0 for 0 monsters idea, then you could also have owning a wizard be worth -1 deployable.

Yes, but I don't think it's still possible to get 0 troops. You'll always get at least 1 troop for deployment even if your bonus is -6 or something.

Correct me if I'm wrong, XML gurus.

Ahh okay, I guess that's how they fixed the previous problem. I remember my uncle played a game on Conquer Man when it first came out and the game went all weird when he had a -3 bonus. It wouldn't let him take his turn because it couldn't get passed the fact he had nothing to deploy.

OK so the xml check passed ... are there any tweaks anyone can see to the placement of graphics etc? looks like we are close to beta of this one (has fingers crossed)

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You know, after checking to make sure all the coordinates looked about right it occurred to me that I was staring at monster pelvises the whole time... little weird, lol.

But yeah, everything looks square on. Let's beta test this map!

Industrial Helix wrote:You know, after checking to make sure all the coordinates looked about right it occurred to me that I was staring at monster pelvises the whole time... little weird, lol.

But yeah, everything looks square on. Let's beta test this map!

hehe... yea after I put the unit circles there it almost seemed appropriate that they were called "Unit" circles

XML Check passed 12 days ago. As far as I am aware there are no outstanding changes.

How about someone from the foundry stop by and let us know when we might expect and XML stamp and what the wait time of maps going to BETA is currently.

Thanx

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Hi dolomite,

Apologies for not stopping by sooner; I don't forsee any major hurdles - I just need to swing by when I have time to take a closer look at the map before pushing you towards Beta. Thanks for your patience - I know it's been a long journey

MrBenn wrote:Hi dolomite,

Apologies for not stopping by sooner; I don't forsee any major hurdles - I just need to swing by when I have time to take a closer look at the map before pushing you towards Beta. Thanks for your patience - I know it's been a long journey

Sounds good

Beta - Quenching

---The Final Forge period has concluded for the Monsters! Map. All objections have had their time. The Foundry and I hereby brand this map with the Foundry Beta Brand. Let it be known that this map is now ready for BETA Play. After an extended period of time in BETA and once all quirks and issues have been resolved, the map will be put into Full Play (barring any Lack vetoes).

Conquer Club, enjoy!

Wooo Hoo! the battle for the powerstones is about to begin =)