Skoffin's Madhouse mafia Day Seven

[Ditocoaf]

Hmm... I never actually got pissy, or took anything personally (until that really big post, anyway). You see, for me, arguing isn't something personal, it's something recreational. I did debate in high school, and I often pick a random topic and start arguing with my friends about it (they're okay with this mostly). I wasn't feeling upset that you were randomly lynching... I felt that it was a good opportunity to debate some Mafia Theory, and the positives/negatives of a random lynch. I ended up conceding to F1fth, because that "5th's Law" was a really well put counter-point. Then I started arguing about how people were attacking me for "defending fireedud"... not because I was offended, but because I enjoy arguing, and this was something that I felt should be changed. But soon, I realized that I was losing, not because I was arguing poorly, but because I was arguing... and that's when I actually got "pissy" and offended. And I still feel this way, and I hope that people can start referring to "D's proposal" to knock sense into other people. For instance, if someone tried to say that Innervision's random... joke?... pointed to his guilt, and others started jumping on that bandwaon; someone else could say, "that's not incriminating under D's Proposal," and hopefully the person saying that wouldn't be lynched for it (though I know they will be ).

Anyway, I'll roleclaim, if just because It's incredibly ironic. Wait for it... I'm a survivor. So I suppose it's good that ultimately I sacrificed myself for fireeduud; there's at least a chance that he's town, but there's no way I am. Though I could make the argument that survivors, in almost all cases, function in a game just like town... but I'll save that for another time.

[Anarkistsdream]

Unvote

Can we get a role name, mate?

[Ditocoaf]

right. I'm Thucydides, a historian. That's why I have to take the vote counts.

[Salubri]

So a military technician goes to work on a firing range. He's given a rifle and some rounds, and he starts to fire at the target. When he's done, the report comes back that he's missed every single time.
The technician looks at his rifle, looks at the target. Rifle. Target. Rifle. Target. Finally, he puts a finger in front of the rifle and fires a shot, blowing his finger off.
He looks towards the target and yells 'Well, it's leaving here fine, the problem must be on your end!'

WTF is this? Someone needs to figure out who said this and how its important

He's saying we're blaming the lynchee or target for us not hitting any mafia dudes instead of us analyzing our methodology of argumentation. Sure we can postulate and vote just fine but and doing so we can get to lynch anyone, even to the point of crippling ourselves in the process [lynching a townie power role].

Or not.

Shooting a gun is kinda fun though.

[ace1217]

....Right, well, I'll hammer but I'm not voting dito yet

[Anarkistsdream]

right. I'm Thucydides, a historian. That's why I have to take the vote counts.

I'd say that sounds authentic and you have a reason to do the vote counts- aside from Skoff being too lazy...

Everyone unvote the man... He is honest with what he says...

Wait.

WOuld someone go back and make sure he wasn't doing vote counts before he got his role?

[Ditocoaf]

This is the first time I did a vote count. Within the same minute, I admitted I had my role. I don't know why I was trying to hide the fact that my vote counts were part of my role; I guess it's just the habitual secrecy in this game. But I was very glad that it didn't turn out I was in a mafia group with several of the bandwagoners, or in a mafia group with firee... because that would be really ironic

But don't stop lynching me now... remember scum would make that claim; it's not as blatant as a townie claim. Also, I was only doing the vote counts to set myself up for this fake claim. You need to think like a mafia player.

[LSU Tiger Josh]

Unvote it does sound like something Skoffin would do to keep her ass from having to show up here randomly to count Of course if we lynch dito then we could ruin her ultimate evil plan

[Ditocoaf]

kwan (2) -- Tal, fircoal
ga7 (1) -- kalish
Tal (1) -- mil
mil (1) -- icedagger
ani (1) -- sam
futurerichguy (1) -- illiad
Dito (10) -- flores, mr. i, futurerichguy, danodukebb, ga7, 5th, will, DRoZ, TWO, william18
sam_levi_11 (1) -- nag

I only have to do two of these a day. But I for one want more than two vote counts a day.

[icedagger]

Vote DIto Sorry dito but if we're gonna let people off after a survivor claim we'll never get to night one

[icedagger]

Vote DIto Sorry dito but if we're gonna let people off after a survivor claim we'll never get to night one

EBWOP Unvote Vote Dito

[Anarkistsdream]

Vote DIto Sorry dito but if we're gonna let people off after a survivor claim we'll never get to night one

What?!?!

A survivor can choose to either be Vanilla Townie or Mafia Goon. I, for one, believe that he will stay on our side as long as there are more of us.

Not to mention, the mafia won't kill him, now, so he's better to leave alive.

[icedagger]

He's claimed survivor, if we were certain he was a survivor of course I wouldn't vote him. And we'd be better off if the mafia targeted him, survivor with no power is pretty much the role we can afford to lose most..

My point is, if someone's got to the point where they need to roleclaim, their role needs to be better than survior to avert a lynch. Or we'll end up with everyone claimed and no one lynched.. it's not hard to fake a role in a game like this

[F1fth]

He's claimed survivor, if we were certain he was a survivor of course I wouldn't vote him. And we'd be better off if the mafia targeted him, survivor with no power is pretty much the role we can afford to lose most..

My point is, if someone's got to the point where they need to roleclaim, their role needs to be better than survior to avert a lynch. Or we'll end up with everyone claimed and no one lynched.. it's not hard to fake a role in a game like this

Indeed it is easy to fake a claim, but still I would rather lynch scum than town/third party. And I not sure if this is what you're saying, but are suggesting he lie about his role? If anything, that hurts the town more than anything. I would much rather wait one night on an investigative role than to lynch someone who can do no harm to the town. And that's besides the fact that if he is a survivor, that doesn't help town at all to kill him at this point.

Unvote Dito

FOS icedagger for pushing a non-scum lynch.

[F1fth]

If you wanna know why people are voting you right now, it's this kind of behavior. When some people voted for a new guy (I don't even think they were serious votes), you got pissy with them. Some people voted you, you got pissy with them. And now you're going to quit the game because of it?

How immature. You're taking this freaking game personally, and if you don't see that THAT is the problem here, I guess you have a lot of growing up to do.

Quoted because F1fth has also 'gotten pissy and quitted mafia over it'
Actually, I think I've done the same thing..several times. So Frankly I'm not sure whether Dito is absolutely serious or if he'll cool off by tomorrow and continue on.


Anyway, I'll start prodding players in the morning.

Sorry for the double post, but to address this, Skoffin : I quit after I had finished my games, and was because I was pissy with CC, not mafia. The only problem I had with mafia was being burned out on it.

But Dito, nonetheless, I apologize if my words seemed harsh. I was in a rather foul mood at the time and didn't mean to take it out on you. However, I would love it if you would at least finish your games with us before quitting, even though I understand what it's like to get tired of the game and want a break from it.

[icedagger]

He's claimed survivor, if we were certain he was a survivor of course I wouldn't vote him. And we'd be better off if the mafia targeted him, survivor with no power is pretty much the role we can afford to lose most..

My point is, if someone's got to the point where they need to roleclaim, their role needs to be better than survior to avert a lynch. Or we'll end up with everyone claimed and no one lynched.. it's not hard to fake a role in a game like this

Indeed it is easy to fake a claim, but still I would rather lynch scum than town/third party. And I not sure if this is what you're saying, but are suggesting he lie about his role? If anything, that hurts the town more than anything. I would much rather wait one night on an investigative role than to lynch someone who can do no harm to the town. And that's besides the fact that if he is a survivor, that doesn't help town at all to kill him at this point.

Unvote Dito

FOS icedagger for pushing a non-scum lynch.

What are you on about? I'm not pushing a non-scum lynch, we have no idea whether dito is scum or not. You seem to be advocating a no-lynch today.. going straight to night helps no one but scum.

[The Weird One]

Dito, don't leave. You're cool

he just told us to vote for him. . .I don't think that he's gonna be around much longer anyway.

[ace1217]

How many votes need to be in dito before he gets lynched?

[The Weird One]

you guys do know that the kirby eat isn't actually like eating them and them dying, right?

What do yuo mean?

He's only stealing the power.

[The Weird One]

Also, I was only doing the vote counts to set myself up for this fake claim.

It sounds skoffin-ish and authentic, but this post just made me reconsider about unvoting. My vote stands 'till this is explained.

[LSU Tiger Josh]

He was being sarcastin about it TWO

[dittoeevee8888]

How many votes need to be in dito before he gets lynched?

32 alive, 17 to lynch is what dito is forgetting in his vote counts

[kwanton]

Well right now I'm tempted to vote dito so that skoffin can stopp being lazy. But I think I'll stay out of this particular bandwagon like I have so far.

The more important thing right now is STOP CLAIMING YOU STUPID ASSES! The dito claim was all fine and good but salubri? Really? didn't skoffin say somewhere that having everyone claim was bad? This is far from a mass claim but there was no reason for it salubri, you're just painting scum a nice little target.

On another note, LoVo still hasn't posted!

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I don't believe there is that much evidence that Lovo is allowed to post, as his first post was before he had received a role, then his second, and only other post was complaining about his role.

[The1exile]

What do yuo mean?

if you haven't played super smash bros, go get an N64 emulator f0r your PC, download it, and play kirby. Then you will understand.

(In other news, jeez, what's fircoal for if not explaining random nintendo crap?)