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Posted: Wed Feb 13, 2008 9:21 am
by oaktown
rustlemania wrote:i'm pretty new to the forum...
so does this map move to a different area of the forum now?
Once Gimil has stamped the graphics and I have stamped the gameplay, it's falls to Andy to review it and move it to the forge if/when ready. Andy may have concerns based on the map or the recent discussion, and if it looks like another update is coming soon he may sit on it. Or it may just take him some time to get to it.

Posted: Wed Feb 13, 2008 9:32 am
by gimil
If you can ensure that the latest image is on page one I promise to look at this later today

Posted: Wed Feb 13, 2008 10:20 am
by benny profane
holy crap!
a lot happened over night, huh?
inklosed, you are like a rabid bulldog, thanks for the defense buddy.
snap has returned!
and we got a new stamp!
update tonight, and the image will be on pg. 1 gimil.
thanks oaktown, and everyone else!
Posted: Wed Feb 13, 2008 6:45 pm
by InkL0sed
benny profane wrote:inklosed, you are like a rabid bulldog, thanks for the defense buddy.
Yup, bulldog, that sounds like me
And I ain't no Westminster dog, neither!

Posted: Thu Feb 14, 2008 12:34 am
by snapdoodle
Large - new v13
Howdy,
Some graphical changes. Take a look see.
Here's the list:
*Graffiti Style changed again. and color.
*Title returns to it's glorious largeness.
*Skyline expands.
*Line added about train line bonuses.
We're considering adding drip on the sign for the graf. Benny is sick now and I'm getting swamped with work. That means no update Friday. Hopefully I'll get to do something over the weekend but I've got another project to work on that needs my full attention so we'll see...
Best,
snap
and benny by gchat.
Posted: Thu Feb 14, 2008 8:04 am
by rustlemania
looks awesome!
Bonuses seem pretty reasonable to me.
Graffiti looks great... but drips would add to it i think.
Well done guys.
Posted: Thu Feb 14, 2008 5:10 pm
by InkL0sed
Posted: Thu Feb 14, 2008 5:43 pm
by benny profane
::sigh::
you were serious about that?
it seems you're the only one who cares.
it'll take two seconds, but i won't have a chance until tomorrow.
but....seriously?
Posted: Thu Feb 14, 2008 6:07 pm
by InkL0sed
benny profane wrote:::sigh::
you were serious about that?
it seems you're the only one who cares.
it'll take two seconds, but i won't have a chance until tomorrow.
but....seriously?
No, not seriously...
Posted: Thu Feb 14, 2008 6:47 pm
by gimil
As promised here a revive
1. THe boarder to the legends left of the hudson doesnt have a black line boarder like the rest of the map. This isnt a problem and doesnt look bad, altohugh I feel that putting the line in would make the map feel a little more whole.This point aslo applies to the dead territory on the bottom right
2. Names like east river, hudson river etc are names which are not part of te gameplay. I wouldnt suggest removing them but maybe reduce the opacity so blend into the image a little better and bring the gameing area forward a little image wise.
3. Im not really a fan of the drop shadow you used in any of the map since the rest of the iamge is flat in feeling. I would probably remove the shadow on the continent names on the map. As for the title sign, I dont think it would hurt to keep it as it is for now
4. I would like to see a more distinctive coor used for hte bridges connecting the different islands of the city. THe current ones dotn stand out as well as I would like them to.
5. In your next update included the small image as well. If you make up updates (or rebuttel them) and the small image is usable to a decent standard ill stamp it

Posted: Thu Feb 14, 2008 7:48 pm
by benny profane
gimil wrote:As promised here a revive

1. THe boarder to the legends left of the hudson doesnt have a black line boarder like the rest of the map. This isnt a problem and doesnt look bad, altohugh I feel that putting the line in would make the map feel a little more whole.This point aslo applies to the dead territory on the bottom right

we'll do this, but we'd like to keep it relatively thin.
gimil wrote:2. Names like east river, hudson river etc are names which are not part of te gameplay. I wouldnt suggest removing them but maybe reduce the opacity so blend into the image a little better and bring the gameing area forward a little image wise.
we'd like to keep those, so we'll adjust them, and try to blend them slightly.
gimil wrote:3. Im not really a fan of the drop shadow you used in any of the map since the rest of the iamge is flat in feeling. I would probably remove the shadow on the continent names on the map. As for the title sign, I dont think it would hurt to keep it as it is for now

we'd like to keep the drop shadow on the title sign, but we'll take it off the continent names and see how it looks.
gimil wrote:4. I would like to see a more distinctive coor used for hte bridges connecting the different islands of the city. THe current ones dotn stand out as well as I would like them to.
we'll see what we can come up with.
gimil wrote:5. In your next update included the small image as well. If you make up updates (or rebuttel them) and the small image is usable to a decent standard ill stamp it

you got it gimil.
we are much obliged!!
Posted: Thu Feb 14, 2008 7:51 pm
by gimil
Everything you said sounds perfect

Posted: Thu Feb 14, 2008 8:11 pm
by snapdoodle
I'll do this when I get home.
Posted: Thu Feb 14, 2008 9:30 pm
by Sir. Ricco
I really like it man. It is turning out really nice.
Posted: Thu Feb 14, 2008 11:20 pm
by benny profane
thanks dude...
update tonight.
i'm sitting here on gmail waiting for snap...
with a neti pot up my nose....
Posted: Thu Feb 14, 2008 11:29 pm
by oaktown
clarity of play would be improved a bit if the subway lines didn't bisect non-subway station army circles.
Soho is the worst offender, but there are a few others (Elmhurst, etc).
Posted: Fri Feb 15, 2008 12:51 am
by snapdoodle
Small - new v14
Large - new v14
Greets,
Here's the latest with the suggetions from gimil.
*changed color of bridges and widened
*rejiggered ferry lines
*added line around outlying area
*faded names of things not in play
*removed drop shadow from borough names
To do:
Clean up small map. I just didn't have the time.
Oaktown: We've been meaning to clean the lines for awhile now but haven't gotten around to it. I think now is the time for Benny and I to sit and get a layout for the train lines and the terit names and army shadows. We'll work on that as we clean the small map. Once we scale to the big map everything should be fine.
-snap & benny
Posted: Fri Feb 15, 2008 12:51 am
by snapdoodle
oh and I have no idea what a neti pot is. But from what I've been told it's absolutely disgusting.
Posted: Fri Feb 15, 2008 2:05 am
by whitestazn88
i think it looks sweet. i was confused about the train stops because they're cutting through the circles, but its understandable if you look closer. maybe move the lines a little?
Posted: Fri Feb 15, 2008 11:10 am
by FreeMan10
oaktown wrote:clarity of play would be improved a bit if the subway lines didn't bisect non-subway station army circles.
Soho is the worst offender, but there are a few others (Elmhurst, etc).
I understand your point, but I don't see it as such a big deal. Two places in the legend identify the train stations as having heavy borders around them, The above ground territs have translucent backgrounds while the stations have opaque backgrounds. I'd think that most people realize that trains only stop in certain stations, and the indication that these are
subways should clue people in that the lines go
under some territs.
Worst case, Bill-Joe-Bubba tries to attack Harlem Station from Washington Heights and discovers that it can't be done. He'll prolly figure it out from there.
My 2 newbie cents.
Posted: Fri Feb 15, 2008 11:25 am
by rustlemania
I agree with Freeman...
it's not the worst thing... plus, in several places it won't be possible to move them (LES and UES!)
Bronx
Posted: Sun Feb 17, 2008 2:24 pm
by Queen Zaius
i just wanted to know what made that area of east bronx "throgs neck"... i know of throgs neck bridge, but i always viewed it as edgewater park...
also, can we take over rikers island? that would be pretty neat.
this isn't really a big deal. i like the map!
Posted: Sun Feb 17, 2008 5:23 pm
by rustlemania
thats funny, because my girlfriend actually lives in edgewater park. the area is called throgs neck... edgewater is just a part of it.
Posted: Sun Feb 17, 2008 5:40 pm
by gimil
The new border lines are a great step forward, maybe a little darker thou

Posted: Mon Feb 18, 2008 4:15 am
by yeti_c
whitestazn88 wrote:i think it looks sweet. i was confused about the train stops because they're cutting through the circles, but its understandable if you look closer. maybe move the lines a little?
Personally - I don't think this is an issue - as the lines go behind the army circles...
C.