Firstly, let me just say that I'm dissapointed in you all...I missed nearly 48 hours, and nobody's tried to crucify me for lurking, yet.
This might be a bit disjointed, but I'll try to get all my thoughts out there. Semiconscious, at present, so apologies in advance. If I repeat anything that's been touched on by others, it's less skimming and more of giving a belated opinion on it as I was unable to post closer to when it happened. Also, I'm writing this as I reread with minimal revisions, so you get the unfortunate front row seat to my train of thought. Just throwing that out there to explain changes of tone from beginning to end on things.
First point that really jumps out at me is with Timwoodbury
TimWoodbury wrote:Doom why mention team rocket who says they even in the game are you team rocket??
TimWoodbury wrote:Ebwop its dakky not doom posting from phone sucks
This seems to straddle the line of a pretty thin excuse to vote for someone while still being an attempt to use logic. What I mean by this is that a large portion of the early votes are entirely joking and made with little to room for such nicities as logic, reasoning, or sanity. This, to me at least, instead seems to be an attempt to find the first excuse to try and start a bandwagon. In all fairness, though, you don't actually cast a vote, here...Because of the setting being what it is [Indigo League], one would think that the villians from that arc of the tv show that make an appearance in almost every episode will show up in this game in some form. Also, as they're the villians and whatnot, it could be assumed that they would be some flavour of scum.
A side note: Serbia's early vote on dakky based upon Tim's reasoning, I would mark down to his ignorance to the setting [he states he knows nothing of pokemon]...Either that is sincere ignorance, or an excuse to jump on the reasoning.
strike wolf wrote:TimWoodbury wrote:The1exile wrote:Although only team rocket deal in absolutes, if I can mix my references, the exchange between dakky and Tim got me thinking. Dakky may be guessing that team rocket are in the game but Tim seems unwilling to speculate on the setup, which seems counterproductive (hence scummy) in such a large mafia. Vote Tim
nah i was just poking dakky to see what he would say, was wanting to provoke a response good or bad from dakky wich it seems he has ignored. is he ignoreing because its such a small not out there thing or does he not wanna say to much makes you go hmmmm. but for now ill give dakky a pass as he claims he is doing the same as i
So knowing Dakky's history of drawing attention to himself without your help, you decided to go for the easy target?
I fele strike kinda hit the nail on the head in responding to Tim's defense of his vote. I'll add on, though, that I don't really know the playing dynamic betwixt dakky and Tim. This could be perfectly normal behaviour for them. That's a potential issue that is unfortunately kinda inevitable when mingling multiple completely different groups of players -see also: dakky's comical vendetta on the chu for a vote on a nonplayer.
Moving right along...
A post that slipped by me, the first time or two:
WingCmdr Ginkapo wrote:TimWoodbury wrote:Doom why mention team rocket who says they even in the game are you team rocket??
Vote TimI would be up for lynching Skoffin for red text too.
Well, it didn't slip by me entirely so much as I noticed it for the wrong reason. The statement that they'd be up for lynching skoff for the red text seems too thin of a reason for me and makes me cringe. That said, I can understand -to some small degree- the excuse that this is day one. The voting for Tim, though, bothers me. You give no reason other than quoting a simple -albeit idiotic- question that was asked. It's day one. It's the time for idiotic questions Then again, it's also time to draw and quarter some poor bastard for asking the wrong idiotic question because we've got nothing better to do...I'd rather avoid that outcome...that's just the events of far too many day 1s that I've seen. Anyone, away from the rambling and back to your vote: While everyone else is just talking about it...trying to poke and see what is said, and if tim is going to slip up, you just throw a vote in with no actual explanation, and follow it up with offering to vote for someone else on no impactful reason.
On to page nine...
WingCmdr Ginkapo wrote:I will vouch for Benga being a decent player. Doesnt post mega often, but will post essays infrequently.
Just seen that Hotshot is in this game. Unvote vote Hotshot. Scumarines as scum. Scumarines as town. Easier just to lynch him now. Tim and Dakky do this every game, even if I think Tim may have truly slipped this time.
I could be grasping at straws, here, but this still feels off to me...You're backing off of the failed bandwagon on Tim [of which you were the first to vote with the least explanation as to why]. That's all I see that as: you jumping off because you don't see it getting enough steam. You follow that up with turning on someone who posts infrequently and push to lynch them for that alone. They haven't done anything yet, in this game, and, at that point, they'd been more active than a number of the players, so this still just comes off as scummy as you are basing this off of nothing related to this particular game [maybe I'm being a bit touchy about someone getting a vote for infrequent posting with my barely existant activity, thus far....]
And, now, for something completely different:
BuJaber wrote:Dakky you being suspicious of my FOS... does that mean you aren't trying to get lynched?
Tim is suspicious for the above mentioned reasons. Kind of a red flag to question the existence of Team Rocket. However, since it's still early and I promised myself at the end of the last game that I will second and triple guess myself before voting tim or mitch until I can understand them better, I won't vote.
Skittles! wrote:Idk if they are new to mafia or just not sure how to go about discussing who may be the baddie here (obvs Team Rocket and whoever leads them), but it just seems suss.
This here seems (to me at least) even more suspicious than Tim. Assuming anything concrete about factions in a non standard game is scummy at worst and dangerous at best. There's been mentions of pokemon, trainers, and team rocket so far. That's at least 3. I can't help thinking that this is an attempt to gain early town credit for future use.
Unvote Vote SkittlesThis is page nine, still...Either you're skimming or you're being scummy as all hell...From page 8:
Skoffin wrote: Also, this game is Indigo league, therefore Team Rocket would be the scum team for the game. Otherwise why call it Idigo league?
And let's face it, anything past Gen 2 is inferior and not worthusing anyway.
Now, this is just a heavy implication, so I guess we could assume that you didn't connect the dots, so, just to be clear:
Indigo league = Gen 1
Gen 1 Villians = Team Rocket
I'll leave that as a heavy FOS that I might change to a vote in my closing thoughts, but, presently, still torn between you and wing...
So, moving along to the MM/Nark exchange.
Anarkistsdream wrote: Minister Masket wrote:
Where was Pokemon roles mentioned? I assumed it would all be trainers. Then again my memory of the Indigo series is very fuzzy. I know there've been loads of trainers introduced over the years but perhaps there weren't that many way back then.
So you are a trainer? Well golly gee. Let's put a big ol' target on you... Or maybe not. Maybe we are all trainers. But what you just said guarantees you are 1) lying to get info or 2) admiting your role... I don't like either choice.
Vote: Minister Masket
I have to agree with Nag's point a few posts later [I'm trying to not drown you in quotes, here....Probably failing miserably, but, in light of that attempt, I'll just paraphrase...It's near the bottom of page nine that Nag reasons that, while this soft claim at trainerhood isn't the wisest thing to do and is a misplay, it isn't necessarily scummy. Using the entirely black and white good/bad spectrum that the show had, you have trainers on both sides [ash, brock, and misty on one side, and team rocket on the other, to give just one quick example]
What I do find more interesting about this is the post immediately after AD:
madmitch wrote:@ Anark ( just lazy ) like your post about the minister, makes sense ,
more than a lot other posts. UNVOTE VOTE MINISTER MASKET
This is blatant hopping on a bandwagon. I don't think there's anything else to add...
All that said, I feel that the reasoning on madmitch is soundest. I'll stick to just an
unvote for now because we're past the joke voting stage, it would seem, and I'll try to get on here and make sense of all this when I'm somewhat coherent, tomorrow.
On a side note: damn, is it good to be seeing all the old names floating around again.