Conquer Club

that should have been, vote falko

sam_levi_11 wrote:Vote Falko, he is still random voting, as is shown by his hasty vote onto pmc before switching to stroop.

Huh? Maybe the first one was suspicious as he didn't give any reasons, but the second one surely can't be called random?

pmchugh wrote:

sam_levi_11 wrote:Vote Falko, he is still random voting, as is shown by his hasty vote onto pmc before switching to stroop.

Huh? Maybe the first one was suspicious as he didn't give any reasons, but the second one surely can't be called random?

The second one he covered up for it. I think he did the noob thing of thinking we would ignore it. Anyway, just trying to spark discussion with the little we have... Btw where is everyone?

sam_levi_11 wrote:... Btw where is everyone?

I am wondering the same thing.

I do nto feel like sending out a mass prod, so if action does not pick up at least over the weekend, a deadline will be placed.

Nzen wrote:(I had to edit this post because I input the quote end tags wrong. It didn't split Ace's blurb from pmcugh's)

EBWOP please. You have been warned.

Having the double vote, I'm really reluctant to rush my vote to things as it counts twice as much as anyone else's. In regards to the OMGUS, I have stated it before and will state it again that usually the ones yelling about OMGUS are more likely to be the scum than the ones casting the OMGUS as scum tries its best to blend in with the town and don't want to do anything even remotely to get suspicion.

Could we have a WC?

Thezzaruz wrote:Could we have a WC?

I assume you mean vote count and not water closet, because if you mean the latter, then I can not help you.


Vote Count

Falkomagno (1) - Sam_levi_11
Stroop (3) - pmchugh, thischarmingman, Falkomagno
pmchugh (2) - Nzen, Stroop


With 12 alive it takes 7 to lynch.

Not Voting:

MrDizzle, gimpyThewonder, LSU, AceArtemis, Thessaruz, /

Suspect101 wrote:I assume you mean vote count and not water closet, because if you mean the latter, then I can not help you.

Spelling skillz at their best tonight.
(I did actually need both, but I only expected you to help me with one. )

We need to here from thischarmingan, gimpy, Mr Dizzle and Thez as well as a few others.

What do you think of the Nzen/pmchugh/stroop arguments? and
Who do you believe to be scum?

if someone would be so kind as to clarify the arguments into palatable chunks I'd love to weigh in. but frankly it seems like so much finger pointing w/ not much behind it. could be wrong though.

Day two had come to a slow grind. One of the players could not bear the stench of the stagnent water. Deciding to take fate into his own hands, he decided that people who are submarining must be scum, even if they aren't someone still must be scum.
As the target was selected, slowly the eyes started opening. The target had no idea what was happening and continued on. A single laser beam shot from the eyes, and that was all that was needed. The laser exploded into a large pile of giant shapd rocks. now all that is left is gravel.

MrDizzle – Rickbiter (Killed via Vig ) Roleblocker Third Party

The vig strikes again

i still have no real bias towards either argument so i am gonna leave it to stroop to prove to me i shouldnt vote for him ill check back in in like 12 hours hope you have some good arguments for me

thischarmingman wrote:i still have no real bias towards either argument so i am gonna leave it to stroop to prove to me i shouldnt vote for him ill check back in in like 12 hours hope you have some good arguments for me

Page 13 is where pmc voted me, so you'll find my arguments for not lynching me from there on.

this vig is a crazy trigger.....Hey man¡¡¡ stop your random killings¡¡¡


Btw, each another dead confirms the fact that this is a game between 3rd party (town) against scum.


People, looks who is openly admitting not to be a 3rd party and lynch¡

I will be away until sunday evening.

I am gonig to go ahead and say it, I think there is Fantasia (me), 3rd Party, G'mork and The Nothing's cult.

Fantasia I take it to be town possibly with a recruiter to turn the third party into town. All I would say to anyone who is third party is that it would be benificial for you to fully support fantasia as you are more likely to be killed than lynched, we will at least here you out.

The way the vig is acting I am thinking that it is a 3rd party vig, killing an inactive helps to speed up the game and eliminates competition from one side or the other so it benifits them. Otherwise it's just a newbie.

I apologize for being inactive. I should be able to be more active now that all I have left for school are finals.

I don't see pmc and stroop as being very scummy at the moment. They have both responded to each other's cases adaquately IMO.
I will read through and see who looks scummy, and post tonight.

Falkomagno wrote:People, looks who is openly admitting not to be a 3rd party and lynch¡

So why haven't you voted for someone on your list instead of sam?

As promised, I unvote pmchugh in absence of support. I mostly expect the cult to only give subtle tells via their nitpicking reasoning rather than an obvious fumble. But, this propped pride above rationality since I discounteded simple bloodthirst (the worst reasoning) on the part of Stroop and gimpyThewonder.
I vote Stroop

LSU, at the risk of encouraging more WiFoM, did last night's report simply tell you who was protected or give the names of people visiting the targets. Since MrDrizzle was an obvious protector, it would clarify at least one pair's cult.

I was told just who was protected.

pmchugh wrote:As for gimpy, his reasons for voting sam:

gimpyThewonder wrote:vote sam if for no other reason than it seems to be the consensus and someone has to die to gain us some info

Reasons for voting simon:

gimpyThewonder wrote:does that mean the deadline is closed or close?

if it isn't too late i'll switch my vote unvot vote simon just to get a succesful lynch and draw day 1 shenanigins to a close

It seems he is desperate for a lynch, is this scummy? Yes and no, because as a townie you want a lynch to gain info and as scum if you see a chance to off someone not in your group your not going to pass it up. Your reasoning is fine enough but it still seems suspicious to me, more for the way you said it than what you actually said.

This was pmc's case against gimpyThewonder at the start of Day 2. I don't believe anyone actually voted for gimpyThewonder based on this yet. Reproduced below is gimpy's response to the argument against him.

gimpyThewonder wrote:pmc your logic makes sense in terms of who to look at but you neglected this post i made:

gimpyThewonder wrote:look we all know that day 1 rarely catches out scum. what it does is give us information to work w/. someone has to be the sacrificial lamb, it's the way the game is played. the fact that Simon has yet to defend himself looks, well, bad. is it enough for a lynch? for Day 1, you bet it is. now i'm not going to throw the axiom of wanting a no lynch your way b/c your argument was sound and i enjoy logical pleas, but between lynching a townie for info or letting him live while the scult recruits/kills for free tonight while we gain nothing? it shouldn't be a difficult decision really.

where I basically outline what you say 2 posts later.

additionally, had I really been scum you wouldn't have seen me on the tail end of a lynch, its not my 1st rodeo

I agree that it is good to lynch on Day 1 to gain some info, but the since entire point of mafia is to lynch the mafia, it matters who is lynched. On Day 1, you didn't seem to care at all who was lynched, you just added to the bandwagon of whoever had the most votes at the time, stating that somebody needed to die to gain info. Scum don't care who is lynched because all they want is to get into the night without getting lynched. The argument that you know what you are doing and would not be on the tail end of a lynch holds no weight. It is a huge ball of WIFOM.

Vote: gimpyThewonder because I do not believe he has defended himself adaquately.

Falkomagno wrote:People, looks who is openly admitting not to be a 3rd party and lynch¡

That's monumentally stupid though, the main fantasia characters will not be 3rd party.

Thezzaruz wrote:

Falkomagno wrote:People, looks who is openly admitting not to be a 3rd party and lynch¡

That's monumentally stupid though, the main fantasia characters will not be 3rd party.

Thinking about it it's actually stupid enough to warrant a Vote Falkomango.

Thezzaruz wrote:

Falkomagno wrote:People, looks who is openly admitting not to be a 3rd party and lynch¡

That's monumentally stupid though, the main fantasia characters will not be 3rd party.

Another thing about this is that if you only lynch non-third party members, the mafia will recruit third party members, and then these mafia members will be safe from lynching.