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Posted: **Wed Jan 07, 2009 1:26 pm**

spiesr wrote:I will likely believe nate's claim once drake_259, spaceghst44 and LSU Tiger Josh post and confirm that they cannot counter it by being a cop who has powers every night...

Why would you want the cop to reveal himself..... unless you are mafia or wolf?

Vote Spiesr

until actions are justified

Posted: **Wed Jan 07, 2009 1:27 pm**

Not the cop either.

Posted: **Wed Jan 07, 2009 1:33 pm**

spaceghst44 wrote:
spiesr wrote:I will likely believe nate's claim once drake_259, spaceghst44 and LSU Tiger Josh post and confirm that they cannot counter it by being a cop who has powers every night...

Why would you want the cop to reveal himself..... unless you are mafia or wolf?

Vote Spiesr

until actions are justified

spaceghst44 wrote:Not the cop either.

WTF!??! Is this the meaning of irony lmao. if everyone who isnt the cop claims it only leaves one person who is the cop.

farside22 wrote:
spiesr wrote:I will likely believe nate's claim once drake_259, spaceghst44 and LSU Tiger Josh post and confirm that they cannot counter it by being a cop who has powers every night...

I really wish I was a double voter. I mean are you serious!?!?!

I wish I was a treble voter so I could vote him, nate and space lol.

Posted: **Wed Jan 07, 2009 1:36 pm**

spaceghst44 wrote:
spiesr wrote:I will likely believe nate's claim once drake_259, spaceghst44 and LSU Tiger Josh post and confirm that they cannot counter it by being a cop who has powers every night...

Why would you want the cop to reveal himself..... unless you are mafia or wolf?

Vote Spiesr

until actions are justified

spaceghst44 wrote:Not the cop either.

My head. Oh god my poor head. ](*,)

Posted: **Wed Jan 07, 2009 1:54 pm**

If there is 2 of each then I think it would be a bit cruel to have a mafia cop, plus it would give scum an advantage over town if they can find out the roles of the werewolves? Unless they come back as vanilla or something. Just my 2p.

As another aside, can someone explain to me what WIFOM means? I've heard it before but its meaning doesn't quite click in my head.

Posted: **Wed Jan 07, 2009 1:59 pm**

Nickbaldwin wrote:If there is 2 of each then I think it would be a bit cruel to have a mafia cop, plus it would give scum an advantage over town if they can find out the roles of the werewolves? Unless they come back as vanilla or something. Just my 2p.

As another aside, can someone explain to me what WIFOM means? I've heard it before but its meaning doesn't quite click in my head.

WIFOM = wine in front of me. It comes from the Princess Bride. Sorry about that.

Posted: **Wed Jan 07, 2009 2:12 pm**

I understand, thanks mate.

Posted: **Wed Jan 07, 2009 3:59 pm**

pmchugh wrote:
spaceghst44 wrote:
spiesr wrote:I will likely believe nate's claim once drake_259, spaceghst44 and LSU Tiger Josh post and confirm that they cannot counter it by being a cop who has powers every night...

Why would you want the cop to reveal himself..... unless you are mafia or wolf?

Vote Spiesr

until actions are justified

spaceghst44 wrote:Not the cop either.

WTF!??! Is this the meaning of irony lmao. if everyone who isnt the cop claims it only leaves one person who is the cop.

Assuming that all claims are true

Posted: **Wed Jan 07, 2009 4:45 pm**

Unvote.

After reading the last 2 pages, I've come to the conclusion that it would be better to not lynch Nate today. The case on him only consists of him not reading the thread properly and OMGUS voting, which I see many townies do just as much as scum on this forum. Besides, we might be lynching a powerrole that has a chance to confirm his role the coming night, and doing that would be silly.

spaceghst44, we really didn't get much input from animorph before. It would be really helpful if you shared your thoughts on the game.

Posted: **Wed Jan 07, 2009 4:58 pm**

What I meant what I said was that if nate was lying about his claim the cop would know it from the way his role works. Everybody except those three had posted since nate's claim and had not outed him for lying. So once those last three people posted and didn't come forward in that post with the counter to prove nate was lying then everyone would have had a chance to counter him. Therefor we would then have to believe his claim as no one came forward with the proof that would out him.

Posted: **Wed Jan 07, 2009 5:03 pm**

pmchugh wrote:WTF!??! Is this the meaning of irony lmao. if everyone who isnt the cop claims it only leaves one person who is the cop.

I didn't want people to say they were the cop or not. (Unless they are the cop AND their role gives them proof nate is lying.) I just wanted every to post once the were aware of nate's claim and could not counter it. It doesn't matter what they post. One everybody has posted we would know nate was telling the truth.

Posted: **Wed Jan 07, 2009 5:10 pm**

spiesr wrote:What I meant what I said was that if nate was lying about his claim the cop would know it from the way his role works. Everybody except those three had posted since nate's claim and had not outed him for lying. So once those last three people posted and didn't come forward in that post with the counter to prove nate was lying then everyone would have had a chance to counter him. Therefor we would then have to believe his claim as no one came forward with the proof that would out him.

I cant make sense of this post, If they 'outed me for lying' then we would know who the actual detective is, and either the mafia or WW could take them out in the night... I agree with farside in that the cop should not raise any fuss either way or we may lose an important role, I dont know of the cop knows about me or not, but his best course would be (if he dosnt already know) to investigate me tonight to show the truth, NOT give any kind of an answer here in public whare the mob/WW could get to them

just my 2 cents

Posted: **Wed Jan 07, 2009 5:16 pm**

I agree wtih Sierra in regards to Nate. i was thinking if he is telling the truth he should get info tonight to share. I really feel LSU, PMC or spiesr as my top 3 scum suspects at the moment.

Posted: **Wed Jan 07, 2009 5:57 pm**

Nate, I can't recall if you have told us already or not...does your investigation work on mafia, werewolves, or both?

farside22 wrote:I agree wtih Sierra in regards to Nate. i was thinking if he is telling the truth he should get info tonight to share. I really feel LSU, PMC or spiesr as my top 3 scum suspects at the moment.

I can see the LSU and spiesr suspisions, but I'm not too leary of pmc at the moment. Spiesr is my biggest suspect right now based on the whole 'outing the cop' incident.

Posted: **Wed Jan 07, 2009 6:16 pm**

from what I understand....

since we are playing with werewolves mafia, there has to be a seer, cop, angel, and doctor. The seer gets guilty results on werewolves but not mafia. The cop gets guilty results on mafia but not werewolves. An angel protects from the werewolves but not mafia, and the doctor protects against mafia but not werewolves.

Since there was a roleblocker, who duty is to block one persons actions at night, who is now dead, there might also be these characters:

Godfather: mafia member who appears innocent to cops.
Serial Killer: Mafia member who object is to be the sole survivor.
Masons: townies who know each other to be innocent, and can talk to each other at night, but have no special powers.
Vigilante: townie who can kill at night
????Deputy???: never heard of this but it could exist.

Werewolves try to eliminate mafia and town, mafia try to eliminate werewolves and town, town tries to eliminate werewolves and mafia.

It is possible that a townie can have wolfsbane, but this would only protect them against werewolves and not mafia.

Posted: **Wed Jan 07, 2009 6:44 pm**

spaceghst44 wrote:from what I understand....

since we are playing with werewolves mafia, there has to be a seer, cop, angel, and doctor. The seer gets guilty results on werewolves but not mafia. The cop gets guilty results on mafia but not werewolves. An angel protects from the werewolves but not mafia, and the doctor protects against mafia but not werewolves.

Since there was a roleblocker, who duty is to block one persons actions at night, who is now dead, there might also be these characters:

Godfather: mafia member who appears innocent to cops.
Serial Killer: Mafia member who object is to be the sole survivor.
Masons: townies who know each other to be innocent, and can talk to each other at night, but have no special powers.
Vigilante: townie who can kill at night
????Deputy???: never heard of this but it could exist.

Werewolves try to eliminate mafia and town, mafia try to eliminate werewolves and town, town tries to eliminate werewolves and mafia.

It is possible that a townie can have wolfsbane, but this would only protect them against werewolves and not mafia.

there doesnt have to be anything although I think your right about the 4 you mentioned first.

I very much doubt their being a SK they are always seperate to mafia on CC, and we have quite enough scum already.

I also doubt their being masons but its possible in this game as their is a low population of town.

Vig- possible, if its true im glad they didnt kill N1 probbly means they are a smart player or got blocked.

Anyway most of this is useless speculation we need to concentrate on targets for a lynch.

Posted: **Wed Jan 07, 2009 6:51 pm**

farside22 wrote:I agree wtih Sierra in regards to Nate. i was thinking if he is telling the truth he should get info tonight to share. I really feel LSU, PMC or spiesr as my top 3 scum suspects at the moment.

Their isnt much evidence against nate but I would be extremely surprised if he turned up town.

I am however willing to consider other suspects. Im not convinced of your excuse space:

spaceghst44 wrote:
pmchugh wrote:
spaceghst44 wrote:
spiesr wrote:I will likely believe nate's claim once drake_259, spaceghst44 and LSU Tiger Josh post and confirm that they cannot counter it by being a cop who has powers every night...

Why would you want the cop to reveal himself..... unless you are mafia or wolf?

Vote Spiesr

until actions are justified

spaceghst44 wrote:Not the cop either.

WTF!??! Is this the meaning of irony lmao. if everyone who isnt the cop claims it only leaves one person who is the cop.

Assuming that all claims are true

If you dont want the cop to reveal himself why are you eliminating possibilities and pressurising the cop to claim?

Posted: **Wed Jan 07, 2009 7:36 pm**

I did not want the cop to claim, that was my reason for nominating spiesr.

With a false accusation like that, you seem pretty scummy there pmc.

Posted: **Wed Jan 07, 2009 7:41 pm**

spaceghst44 wrote:I did not want the cop to claim, that was my reason for nominating spiesr.

With a false accusation like that, you seem pretty scummy there pmc.

Its not a false accusation why on earth would you want to say you are not the cop, if you don't want the cop to be found?

Posted: **Wed Jan 07, 2009 9:51 pm**

pmchugh wrote:
spaceghst44 wrote:I did not want the cop to claim, that was my reason for nominating spiesr.

With a false accusation like that, you seem pretty scummy there pmc.

Its not a false accusation why on earth would you want to say you are not the cop, if you don't want the cop to be found?

You are assuming that I am actually not the cop.

Posted: **Wed Jan 07, 2009 11:14 pm**

I'm sorry, I thought it was generally okay for the cop to come out if he has proof some is scum when the doctor is still alive to protect him and the chance of there being a scum role blocker is low.

As role for rolls, it nate's claim is true then there should be a cop who can only find werewolves and only works and odd night.
Also a doc and an angle.
If drake is wolf's bane then there should be a bullet proof.

Also Unvote nate unless LSU shows up and outs him as scum...

Posted: **Thu Jan 08, 2009 6:51 am**

Anyone could be the cop, it's not necessarily LSU.

Posted: **Thu Jan 08, 2009 7:24 am**

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Posted: **Thu Jan 08, 2009 7:35 am**

spaceghst44 wrote:
pmchugh wrote:
spaceghst44 wrote:I did not want the cop to claim, that was my reason for nominating spiesr.

With a false accusation like that, you seem pretty scummy there pmc.

Its not a false accusation why on earth would you want to say you are not the cop, if you don't want the cop to be found?

You are assuming that I am actually not the cop.

If you are then that was a foolish claim, if you were to later claim cop then I would not believe you as you claimed not to be the cop earlier.

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