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Posted: Tue Oct 23, 2007 3:35 am
by spinwizard
oaktown wrote:
qwert wrote:Oaktown i whas sailing 2 month in dangerous water of Forge sea,and notorious PIrate Captain Andy want to sunk mine ship,but i manage to came in Quench Harbour

right, I honestly don't care how long it takes, as long as I feels as if I'm actually doing something. I wouldn't mind spending the next two months if it made the map better, but over the past nine days I've had exactly 8 pixels worth of changes suggested... not even a pixel a day!

If you were being serious, Spin, I can throw up some samples with the text outlined, but with the smiley I'm thinking maybe you were kidding? Because I started with stroke around the text/other elements and dropped it weeks ago, so maybe you're just messing with me. :twisted:

Oh well, back to Bert the Turtle I guess.


Kinda a half suggestion, sould make it clearer but not needed and probs wont fit in with the theme of the map :D

Posted: Thu Oct 25, 2007 11:41 am
by cairnswk
spinwizard wrote:Kinda a half suggestion, sould make it clearer but not needed and probs wont fit in with the theme of the map :D


Spinwizard....you know that a map is awaiting quench....so why make half-baked suggestions at a time like this. If you are going to comment at this stage of the mapping process, make it a serious suggestion that will improve the map and make it worthwhile the mapmaker doing.

Andy looks for serious debate at this time to determine if there is any further reason for not quenching a map.

Your "half suggestion" can only serve to hold up the process.

Posted: Thu Oct 25, 2007 11:44 am
by gimil
cairnswk wrote:
spinwizard wrote:Kinda a half suggestion, sould make it clearer but not needed and probs wont fit in with the theme of the map :D


Spinwizard....you know that a map is awaiting quench....so why make half-baked suggestions at a time like this. If you are going to comment at this stage of the mapping process, make it a serious suggestion that will improve the map and make it worthwhile the mapmaker doing.


Since where onto this subject i never really liked this map, its bland boaring and really doesnt "do it" for me.

only kidding mate. quench

Posted: Thu Oct 25, 2007 11:49 am
by Coleman
I agree with cairnswk here. Unless your intent is to filibuster a map with suggestions please only post things you are absolutely convinced need to change.

When there are outstanding suggestions we have to twiddle our thumbs until the map maker can handle them, either by doing them or giving a good reason not to.

This causes maps to take a long time to quench, and when maps take a longer time to quench then members think it should, we are the ones that get yelled at most of the time. :(

Posted: Thu Oct 25, 2007 11:52 am
by cairnswk
^^^^
gimil wrote:only kidding mate. quench

Posted: Thu Oct 25, 2007 12:00 pm
by gimil
cairnswk wrote:^^^^
gimil wrote:only kidding mate. quench


he knows how i feel :wink:

Posted: Thu Oct 25, 2007 12:05 pm
by cairnswk
gimil wrote:
cairnswk wrote:^^^^
gimil wrote:only kidding mate. quench


he knows how i feel :wink:


yes but putting little bits into the quench equation like this and hidding them by making them so small, gimil, i think isn't necessary.

If you're going to say something like a map needs quenching, thne do it openly so andy can also read the text and see what is going on.

I'm sorry, but horse-play isn't needed at this time.

Posted: Thu Oct 25, 2007 12:12 pm
by gimil
cairnswk wrote:
gimil wrote:
cairnswk wrote:^^^^
gimil wrote:only kidding mate. quench


he knows how i feel :wink:


yes but putting little bits into the quench equation like this and hidding them by making them so small, gimil, i think isn't necessary.

If you're going to say something like a map needs quenching, thne do it openly so andy can also read the text and see what is going on.

I'm sorry, but horse-play isn't needed at this time.


cairns i understand where your coming from but i feel youve over reacted a little. Im sure even andy would understand its m sence of humor and that i wasnt acctually serious.

Posted: Thu Oct 25, 2007 12:54 pm
by cairnswk
gimil wrote:
cairns i understand where your coming from but i feel youve over reacted a little. Im sure even andy would understand its m sence of humor and that i wasnt acctually serious.


Gimil...i know you're only having a "sense of humour" but please keep things in perspective...
Coleman and I are trying to get maps quenched for the mapmakers sakes. Your "sense of humour" sometimes doesn't help the situation at this "business" end of the process. there is plenty of time otherwise for "sense of humour" to be expressed.
by placing a "just kidding" remark in small text that can be missed by someone reading it, doesn't help the process.

and ask youself, wouldn't you be pissed off if Coleman or I missed a small bit like that and took the rest of the comment as an objection, and your map got held up by a couple of weeks from being quenched.

Posted: Thu Oct 25, 2007 1:01 pm
by gimil
cairnswk wrote:
gimil wrote:
cairns i understand where your coming from but i feel youve over reacted a little. Im sure even andy would understand its m sence of humor and that i wasnt acctually serious.


Gimil...i know you're only having a "sense of humour" but please keep things in perspective...
Coleman and I are trying to get maps quenched for the mapmakers sakes. Your "sense of humour" sometimes doesn't help the situation at this "business" end of the process. there is plenty of time otherwise for "sense of humour" to be expressed.
by placing a "just kidding" remark in small text that can be missed by someone reading it, doesn't help the process.

and ask youself, wouldn't you be pissed off if Coleman or I missed a small bit like that and took the rest of the comment as an objection, and your map got held up by a couple of weeks from being quenched.


i would of expected that such a comment wouldnt be taken as a valid piece of feedback (even without te small type) because it doesnt have any real detail involved, but if you want me to drop the sence of humor in FF thats fine.

Posted: Thu Oct 25, 2007 1:09 pm
by cairnswk
gimil wrote:
cairnswk wrote:
gimil wrote:
cairns i understand where your coming from but i feel youve over reacted a little. Im sure even andy would understand its m sence of humor and that i wasnt acctually serious.


Gimil...i know you're only having a "sense of humour" but please keep things in perspective...
Coleman and I are trying to get maps quenched for the mapmakers sakes. Your "sense of humour" sometimes doesn't help the situation at this "business" end of the process. there is plenty of time otherwise for "sense of humour" to be expressed.
by placing a "just kidding" remark in small text that can be missed by someone reading it, doesn't help the process.

and ask youself, wouldn't you be pissed off if Coleman or I missed a small bit like that and took the rest of the comment as an objection, and your map got held up by a couple of weeks from being quenched.


i would of expected that such a comment wouldnt be taken as a valid piece of feedback (even without te small type) because it doesnt have any real detail involved, but if you want me to drop the sence of humor in FF thats fine.


Gimil...u don't have to drop the sense of humour....but make all your comments clearly visible in legible size text so that everyone can see what you're saying. That's the gist of what i ma syaing here.

Posted: Thu Oct 25, 2007 1:20 pm
by gimil
ill take note

Posted: Thu Oct 25, 2007 1:34 pm
by cairnswk
gimil wrote:ill take note


Sorry gimil...i hit the edit button instead of the quote button and went in and deleted all the backdrop...

now, can we go have a beer? :)

Posted: Thu Oct 25, 2007 1:47 pm
by gimil
cairnswk wrote:
gimil wrote:ill take note


Sorry gimil...i hit the edit button instead of the quote button and went in and deleted all the backdrop...

now, can we go have a beer? :)


sure thing

i still hate this map


only kidding

Posted: Thu Oct 25, 2007 1:59 pm
by oaktown
cairnswk wrote:
spinwizard wrote:Kinda a half suggestion, sould make it clearer but not needed and probs wont fit in with the theme of the map :D


Spinwizard....you know that a map is awaiting quench....so why make half-baked suggestions at a time like this. If you are going to comment at this stage of the mapping process, make it a serious suggestion that will improve the map and make it worthwhile the mapmaker doing.

Um, lost in all of this debate is that after Spin posted his "half suggestion" about the font (which wasn't the first such concern) I went in and increased the point size of all of the titles on the small map. I accepted the suggestion, the suggestion was addressed, the map has been made better, but the change seems to have gone unnoticed.

As for Gimil... I've been having a bit of fun in this thread as myself, so I've set the tone. It's been a week since the last real suggestion, so I consider any bump a good bump. :roll:

Posted: Thu Oct 25, 2007 2:26 pm
by gimil
oaktown wrote:As for Gimil... I've been having a bit of fun in this thread as myself, so I've set the tone. It's been a week since the last real suggestion, so I consider any bump a good bump. :roll:


i think there will be a quench anyday soon. Seems to be a few maps ready, and we know andy pefers to do it in batches.

Posted: Thu Oct 25, 2007 2:29 pm
by spinwizard
Sorry...I will suggest less and yell quench more in the future :P

Also cairns see my definision of my half-suggestion, I was seeking to improve the map, nit picking you may call it :)

Great map BTW, I hope that if we have a game on this map when it is quenched it will be shorter than our game on Chinese Checkers :) :lol:

Well done

Posted: Thu Oct 25, 2007 2:33 pm
by gimil
spinwizard wrote:Sorry...I will suggest less and yell quench more in the future :P

Also cairns see my definision of my half-suggestion, I was seeking to improve the map, nit picking you may call it :)

Great map BTW, I hope that if we have a game on this map when it is quenched it will be shorter than our game on Chinese Checkers :) :lol:

Well done


suggestions this late in final forge is very dangerous, handle with care :wink:

Posted: Thu Oct 25, 2007 2:38 pm
by spinwizard
gimil wrote:
spinwizard wrote:Sorry...I will suggest less and yell quench more in the future :P

Also cairns see my definision of my half-suggestion, I was seeking to improve the map, nit picking you may call it :)

Great map BTW, I hope that if we have a game on this map when it is quenched it will be shorter than our game on Chinese Checkers :) :lol:

Well done


suggestions this late in final forge is very dangerous, handle with care :wink:


So once u reach final forge you can't seek to improve the map? :)

Posted: Thu Oct 25, 2007 2:56 pm
by gimil
spinwizard wrote:
gimil wrote:
spinwizard wrote:Sorry...I will suggest less and yell quench more in the future :P

Also cairns see my definision of my half-suggestion, I was seeking to improve the map, nit picking you may call it :)

Great map BTW, I hope that if we have a game on this map when it is quenched it will be shorter than our game on Chinese Checkers :) :lol:

Well done


suggestions this late in final forge is very dangerous, handle with care :wink:


So once u reach final forge you can't seek to improve the map? :)


no i didnt say that. you can, but if you dont time it right then well . . . youll find out one day :D

Posted: Thu Oct 25, 2007 3:01 pm
by spinwizard
gimil wrote:
spinwizard wrote:
gimil wrote:
spinwizard wrote:Sorry...I will suggest less and yell quench more in the future :P

Also cairns see my definision of my half-suggestion, I was seeking to improve the map, nit picking you may call it :)

Great map BTW, I hope that if we have a game on this map when it is quenched it will be shorter than our game on Chinese Checkers :) :lol:

Well done


suggestions this late in final forge is very dangerous, handle with care :wink:


So once u reach final forge you can't seek to improve the map? :)


no i didnt say that. you can, but if you dont time it right then well . . . youll find out one day :D

???

Anyway i was just messing with u in the last post, i know what u mean...but what do mu mean by the bold bit?

Posted: Thu Oct 25, 2007 3:02 pm
by gimil
spinwizard wrote:
gimil wrote:
spinwizard wrote:
gimil wrote:
spinwizard wrote:Sorry...I will suggest less and yell quench more in the future :P

Also cairns see my definision of my half-suggestion, I was seeking to improve the map, nit picking you may call it :)

Great map BTW, I hope that if we have a game on this map when it is quenched it will be shorter than our game on Chinese Checkers :) :lol:

Well done


suggestions this late in final forge is very dangerous, handle with care :wink:


So once u reach final forge you can't seek to improve the map? :)


no i didnt say that. you can, but if you dont time it right then well . . . youll find out one day :D

???

Anyway i was just messing with u in the last post, i know what u mean...but what do mu mean by the bold bit?


One day youll see a map in final forge there the cartographer loses it becasue of large minute suggestions.

**check portugal for details**

Posted: Thu Oct 25, 2007 4:06 pm
by Goalie
get a life
this map stinks

Posted: Thu Oct 25, 2007 4:16 pm
by spinwizard
:lol:

Posted: Thu Oct 25, 2007 4:22 pm
by oaktown
Goalie wrote:get a life
this map stinks

I agree completely... I'll never play it. :twisted: