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Posted: Thu Aug 23, 2007 2:13 pm
by jako
Norse wrote:BTW nice map.
But can I point out one major flaw with it?
If Britain cannot be invaded (only bombarded) then whoever holds england will eventually win....ie. 2 players, one holds england, the rest hold the whole of europe, the one holding the whole of europe will never be able to kill the english holder, despite having the biggest advantage.
See what I mean? the game would go on forever.
guess norse just pointed out a major flaw in this map. there has to be atleast one entry way into britain.
Posted: Thu Aug 23, 2007 2:25 pm
by Coleman
No he hasn't, people are still just misunderstanding how bombardments work. They leave a neutral 1 in the territory after the forces inside have been eliminated. This can be done from all 3 bombardments killing Britain and making sure nobody can have it.
Posted: Thu Aug 23, 2007 5:59 pm
by Qwert
Norse
Joined: 16 Mar 2007
Posts: 1662
Location: Portsmouth, England
Posted: 23 Aug 2007 18:02 Post subject:
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BTW nice map.
But can I point out one major flaw with it?
If Britain cannot be invaded (only bombarded) then whoever holds england will eventually win....ie. 2 players, one holds england, the rest hold the whole of europe, the one holding the whole of europe will never be able to kill the english holder, despite having the biggest advantage.
See what I mean? the game would go on forever.
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Coleman Posted: 23 Aug 2007 19:25 Post subject:
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No he hasn't, people are still just misunderstanding how bombardments work. They leave a neutral 1 in the territory after the forces inside have been eliminated. This can be done from all 3 bombardments killing Britain and making sure nobody can have it.
Read what Coleman repeat several times man.
Posted: Thu Aug 23, 2007 10:58 pm
by Coleman
Going to repost this because nobody has said anything. A & D are pretty much neck and neck as far as I'm concerned, so I think we should decide one way or the other on each value they disagree with each other on.
Gnome wrote:Option A
Western Germany 4
Siegfried Defence 5
North italy 2
Vichy france 4
Britain 3
France 6
edbeard wrote:Option D
Western Germany 4
Siegfried Defence 5
North Italy 3
Vichy France 3
Britain 2
France 6
These look nearly identical, here's the differences:
Code: Select all
Continent A B
North Italy 2 3
Vichy France 4 3
Britain 3 2
Posted: Thu Aug 23, 2007 11:36 pm
by edbeard
do you think it's better to put them simply as 2 options, or make many options to cover all the intermixings of those 3?
Posted: Fri Aug 24, 2007 2:44 am
by hulmey
i like the bomardment idea.....Fantastic!!!!!!!!!!!
Posted: Fri Aug 24, 2007 5:30 am
by Coleman
edbeard wrote:do you think it's better to put them simply as 2 options, or make many options to cover all the intermixings of those 3?
Not sure, I like the 3 for Britain but the 2 for North Italy and the 4 for vichy France.
Edit: Hey, I guess that means I just like Option A.
Posted: Fri Aug 24, 2007 8:59 am
by Qwert
Coleman Posted: 24 Aug 2007 03:58 Post subject:
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Going to repost this because nobody has said anything. A & D are pretty much neck and neck as far as I'm concerned, so I think we should decide one way or the other on each value they disagree with each other on.
Gnome wrote:
Option A
Western Germany 4
Siegfried Defence 5
North italy 2
Vichy france 4
Britain 3
France 6
edbeard wrote:
Option D
Western Germany 4
Siegfried Defence 5
North Italy 3
Vichy France 3
Britain 2
France 6
These look nearly identical, here's the differences:
Code:
Continent A B
North Italy 2 3
Vichy France 4 3
Britain 3 2
I will ask from Keyogi to remove these poll,and i will put these two sugestion for second round of vote.
Posted: Fri Aug 24, 2007 4:41 pm
by KEYOGI
Bonus for these map is option......
Option A
46% [ 12 ]
Option B
0% [ 0 ]
Option C
15% [ 4 ]
Option D
38% [ 10 ]
Total Votes : 26
Posted: Fri Aug 24, 2007 5:51 pm
by Qwert
OK these is a second round of bonus option for map and now we have two most voted option
Option A
Gnome
Western Germany 4
Siegfried Defence 5
North italy 2
Vichy france 4
Britain 3
France 6
Option D
edbeard
Western Germany 4
Siegfried Defence 5
North Italy 3
Vichy France 3
Britain 2
France 6
Second round can begin
Posted: Fri Aug 24, 2007 6:14 pm
by Teya
opiton A doesnt have france in it.
Posted: Fri Aug 24, 2007 6:29 pm
by edbeard
France is 6
the only differences are for Britain, Italy, and Vichy France
Posted: Sat Aug 25, 2007 8:42 am
by Qwert
Thanks teya i fix these.
Posted: Mon Aug 27, 2007 3:46 pm
by Qwert
1 more day for vote.
Posted: Mon Aug 27, 2007 3:47 pm
by Qwert
1 more day for vote.
Posted: Wed Aug 29, 2007 7:10 am
by Qwert
I think that we have bonus viner,Gnome
Posted: Thu Aug 30, 2007 2:08 pm
by Chirondom
What exactly happens if a territory in Britain is conquered through bombardment? Does it become neutral?
Posted: Thu Aug 30, 2007 4:49 pm
by Qwert
Chirondom
Joined: 04 Jul 2007
Posts: 2
Posted: 30 Aug 2007 19:08 Post subject:
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What exactly happens if a territory in Britain is conquered through bombardment? Does it become neutral
yES
Posted: Fri Aug 31, 2007 4:06 pm
by KEYOGI
Bonus for these map is option......(Second turn)
Option A
62% [ 10 ]
Option D
37% [ 6 ]
Total Votes : 16
Posted: Fri Aug 31, 2007 4:27 pm
by Qwert
here new update with valid bonus value.
Also i apply Hulmey helmet opinion.
Hulmey put you helmet and advance to enemy line.
Posted: Fri Aug 31, 2007 5:05 pm
by unriggable
IS Italian flag above or below the playing area? It looks like it is above, I suggest you add shadow undernaeth. Just a pet peeve / major psychotic hatred.
Posted: Fri Aug 31, 2007 6:43 pm
by Qwert
No these is flag of USA and Britain army.You know that italy surender and hes army not fight against germans.Hes is down in nonplayabile area(Hes like others nonplayabile terittory)
Posted: Fri Aug 31, 2007 9:52 pm
by Knight of Orient
im likin this
Posted: Fri Sep 07, 2007 5:44 pm
by Qwert
What to do next?Its these map ready for second step(7 day pass and i dont get any opinion or sugestion)
Posted: Fri Sep 07, 2007 6:36 pm
by KEYOGI
Before Final Forge, there at least needs to be a large and small version. I do have a couple of suggestions before that stage though.
Some of the objects on the map seem a bit poor in quality. Maybe it's just my eyes, or an effect on the arrows, but the normal and bombardment arrows look a bit blurry to me. They kind of have a fuzzy edge to them that gives them a look of being scaled up poorly.
The river doesn't seem to flow all the way to the ocean or blend into it. Also, rivers are generally smooth, but this one looks a bit out of sorts. It also seems to have some effect applied to it that makes it look more like a blue worm stretching across France, rather than a river.
The mountains don't quite look right to me either. I guess some of it has to do with scale, compare them to the other impassables. It's almost as if they're too small and sharp. The borders and some of the impassable objects have a nice soft edge and feel to them and work really well. The mountains kind of grab my attention, but not in a good way.
Perhaps a slightly nicer title wouldn't be out of the question? Also, I'm not sure where the fluro green comes into the legend for the top three bonuses. Perhaps a more subtle colour would be more appropriate?