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Re: is the sky poised to fall?
Posted: Thu Oct 22, 2009 9:20 pm
by jay_a2j
mpjh wrote:The rapture already happened -- if you are here, you missed it.
Presuming I'm a pre-tribulationist, which I'm not so I guess I'm safe.
Re: is the sky poised to fall?
Posted: Thu Oct 22, 2009 10:12 pm
by jonesthecurl
luns101 wrote:hecter wrote:It can't stay up there forever.
No, that would defy the law of gravity. It may not
fall down, but it
will trickle.
Re: is the sky poised to fall?
Posted: Thu Oct 22, 2009 10:52 pm
by mpjh
Another trickle-down theory.
Re: is the sky poised to fall?
Posted: Fri Oct 23, 2009 12:46 am
by Skittles!
jay_a2j wrote:No, but......
1) the moon will turn "blood red"
2) the sun will not give it's light
Just the facts m'am, just the facts
the debate is over......
They are called "Lunar Eclipses".
Or another type of eclipse. If you haven't seen one, where were you in 1999?
Re: is the sky poised to fall?
Posted: Fri Oct 23, 2009 1:04 am
by jay_a2j
Skittles! wrote:jay_a2j wrote:No, but......
1) the moon will turn "blood red"
2) the sun will not give it's light
Just the facts m'am, just the facts
the debate is over......
They are called "Lunar Eclipses".
Or another type of eclipse. If you haven't seen one, where were you in 1999?
I think it's going to be a bit longer than an eclipse. Actually the verse goes, "The sun will be darkened and the moon will not give its light".
Re: is the sky poised to fall?
Posted: Fri Oct 23, 2009 1:49 am
by neanderpaul14
jay_a2j wrote:Skittles! wrote:jay_a2j wrote:No, but......
1) the moon will turn "blood red"
2) the sun will not give it's light
Just the facts m'am, just the facts
the debate is over......
They are called "Lunar Eclipses".
Or another type of eclipse. If you haven't seen one, where were you in 1999?
I think it's going to be a bit longer than an eclipse. Actually the verse goes, "The sun will be darkened and the moon will not give its light".
Re: is the sky poised to fall?
Posted: Fri Oct 23, 2009 3:03 am
by Army of GOD
Well, wait a minute.
How do we know it's the sky falling, and not just us falling...toward the sky?
Re: is the sky poised to fall?
Posted: Fri Oct 23, 2009 4:58 am
by Skittles!
jay_a2j wrote:I think it's going to be a bit longer than an eclipse. Actually the verse goes, "The sun will be darkened and the moon will not give its light".
What version is that?
Re: is the sky poised to fall?
Posted: Fri Oct 23, 2009 5:18 am
by jay_a2j
Skittles! wrote:jay_a2j wrote:I think it's going to be a bit longer than an eclipse. Actually the verse goes, "The sun will be darkened and the moon will not give its light".
What version is that?
Pick one, they all say about the same thing. Revelation 9:2 .
Re: is the sky poised to fall?
Posted: Fri Oct 23, 2009 5:20 am
by Skittles!
RSV - "he opened the shaft of the bottomless pit, and from the shaft rose smoke like the smoke of a great furnace, and the sun and the air were darkened with the smoke from the shaft"
Revelation 9:2
Where's the moon? Sounds like a sexual innuendo to me.
Re: is the sky poised to fall?
Posted: Fri Oct 23, 2009 5:23 am
by jay_a2j
Skittles! wrote:RSV - "he opened the shaft of the bottomless pit, and from the shaft rose smoke like the smoke of a great furnace, and the sun and the air were darkened with the smoke from the shaft"
Revelation 9:2
Where's the moon? Sounds like a sexual innuendo to me.
some versions say "air", some say "sky" and others "moon". It would.
Re: is the sky poised to fall?
Posted: Fri Oct 23, 2009 5:24 am
by Skittles!
Well, er, that's a major inconsistency don't you think?
Re: is the sky poised to fall?
Posted: Fri Oct 23, 2009 7:13 am
by MeDeFe
jay_a2j wrote:Skittles! wrote:jay_a2j wrote:No, but......
1) the moon will turn "blood red"
2) the sun will not give it's light
Just the facts m'am, just the facts
the debate is over......
They are called "Lunar Eclipses".
Or another type of eclipse. If you haven't seen one, where were you in 1999?
I think it's going to be a bit longer than an eclipse. Actually the verse goes, "The sun will be darkened and the moon will not give its light".
So it's overcast and a new moon. Got it.
Re: is the sky poised to fall?
Posted: Fri Oct 23, 2009 8:13 am
by AAFitz
jay_a2j wrote:Phatscotty wrote:AAFitz wrote:jay_a2j wrote:No, but......
1) the moon will turn "blood red"
2) the sun will not give it's light
3) the "new world order" will be short lived, making way for Christ's reign.
Just the facts m'am, just the facts
the debate is over......
there are about 1000 other religions that interpret it slightly different.
Those are the actual facts. If you did happen to stumble on the right one, and are one of the lucky ones that got informed about the Correct God...kudos...however...I wouldnt gloat in that too much....if hes as Good as you say he is...Ill bet he frowns on that sort of thing.
In case you are wondering which religeon has it right and get's to go to heaven.....it's the Mormons. Mormon is the correct answer
A "religion" does not grant you access to heaven. It's your relationship with Jesus Christ. There may be people from many different "religions" in heaven. The one thing that they will all have in common, is that they will all have accepted Jesus Christ as Lord and Savior.
The debate is over.....
So all those good people faithfully worshiping their god or gods, and that werent lucky enough to learn about jesus... just a little "too bad" and a kick in the pants. Sorry, I might not fully believe in God, but I surely believe a God of Good would have set up a system infinitely more fair than that. The one you've described too much resembles some man-concocted rules to exert power over people.
And, clearly by the debate is over, you mean, youve made up and closed your mind to all other possibilities no matter what. That doesnt end the debate...just
your chance at possible enlightenment...and once again...I know enough about God to know if hes actually there, your actions will matter far more than your petty thanks and offerings. Jesus himself only cared about people treating other people well...whether they believed in him or not. Ill go out on a limb and bet they dont care squat about suck ups.
For a God of Good, with no ego or human weaknesses to only care about being accepted as his main requisite for entry into his kingdom, means he is not really a god of good, or your idea of his wishes have been somewhat misrepresented and interpreted. Now the debate on that is over. Thats simple logic.
Re: is the sky poised to fall?
Posted: Fri Oct 23, 2009 11:59 am
by john9blue
Well congrats Sultan, you started another religion thread.
Re: is the sky poised to fall?
Posted: Fri Oct 23, 2009 12:26 pm
by Neoteny
The universe was created by a turtle sitting on an elephant balanced on a camel through the eye of a needle.
The debate is over...
Re: is the sky poised to fall?
Posted: Fri Oct 23, 2009 12:34 pm
by MeDeFe
Neoteny wrote:The universe was created by a turtle sitting on an elephant balanced on a camel through the eye of a needle.
The debate is over...
That would make us demigods who play around with the lesser beings that live on various worlds within this universe. A rather thrilling concept if I may say so.
Re: is the sky poised to fall?
Posted: Fri Oct 23, 2009 12:59 pm
by Snorri1234
No.
Debate is over.
Re: is the sky poised to fall?
Posted: Fri Oct 23, 2009 1:03 pm
by mpjh
Agreed
The debate is over.
Re: is the sky poised to fall?
Posted: Fri Oct 23, 2009 2:06 pm
by ser stiefel
Isn't the sky always falling since it is undergoing a 9.8 m/s/s accelleration in the direction of the earth?
The debate is over.
Re: is the sky poised to fall?
Posted: Fri Oct 23, 2009 5:43 pm
by jay_a2j
Skittles! wrote:Well, er, that's a major inconsistency don't you think?
If the air is darkened, you can be assured you will not see the sky or the moon. Likewise, if the sky is darkened, you will not see the air or moon. Obviously the smoke from the "bottomless pit" will block out the sun, moon, sky and air. Now, stop wasting time and make sure your flashlight has new batteries in it!
Re: is the sky poised to fall?
Posted: Fri Oct 23, 2009 5:52 pm
by jay_a2j
AAFitz wrote:
So all those good people faithfully worshiping their god or gods, and that werent lucky enough to learn about jesus... just a little "too bad" and a kick in the pants. Sorry, I might not fully believe in God, but I surely believe a God of Good would have set up a system infinitely more fair than that. The one you've described too much resembles some man-concocted rules to exert power over people.
And, clearly by the debate is over, you mean, youve made up and closed your mind to all other possibilities no matter what. That doesnt end the debate...just your chance at possible enlightenment...and once again...I know enough about God to know if hes actually there, your actions will matter far more than your petty thanks and offerings. Jesus himself only cared about people treating other people well...whether they believed in him or not. Ill go out on a limb and bet they dont care squat about suck ups.
For a God of Good, with no ego or human weaknesses to only care about being accepted as his main requisite for entry into his kingdom, means he is not really a god of good, or your idea of his wishes have been somewhat misrepresented and interpreted. Now the debate on that is over. Thats simple logic.
God is good. What you or I deem the definition of "good" is irrelevant. You can't put God in a nice little box consisting of what you think He should be. If you want to know God and His goodness, you can. Read up on him via the Bible.
"Jesus himself only cared about people treating other people well...whether they believed in him or not." I'd have to disagree here. Our deeds are like filthy rags in the sight of God. To love one another is the GREATEST commandment, not the ONLY commandment.
The debate is over....
Re: is the sky poised to fall?
Posted: Fri Oct 23, 2009 6:13 pm
by hecter
I will not worship tyranny.
Re: is the sky poised to fall?
Posted: Fri Oct 23, 2009 7:07 pm
by Frigidus
hecter wrote:I will not worship tyranny.
Re: is the sky poised to fall?
Posted: Sat Oct 24, 2009 12:05 am
by Timminz
Jesus christ, jay! How many times can a debate be "over", before you stop talking about your narrow views?